Jagmeet Singh is a hypocrite

White_Unifier

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Interestingly, the Qur'an does not prescribe any earthly punishment for apostasy:

Does the Koran Endorse Apostasy Laws? | HuffPost

So you guys should compose a list of unique Canadian values. This should be an interesting exercise.

Mostly values that I personally reject, such as official bilingualism and the separate school system. One that I'm particularly fond is is maple syrup. I value Canadian durum wheat too. I view universal ethics as far more relevant to my life than provincial values.
 

Johnnny

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So you guys should compose a list of unique Canadian values. This should be an interesting exercise.

Your all over the place i notice. But i'll bite.

My values would be mostly to restricting Religion from interfering with a persons education health and safety. Here are a few:

1) Make all childhood shots mandatory such as those for Measles, tuberculosis, Polio etc.

I mean if the Maldives could eliminate measles from their country and they're a Muslim Nation then Religion should not be an excuse not to get vaccinated. That includes the Jehovah Witness's too.

2) Not allow an religious garment to substitute for safety equipment or PPE.

If they can make a Turban that can be approved to the DOT standard and can guarantee the same safety as a regular helmet then i would accept that.

3) Abolish all government funding for religious schools. Religion should only be available as an elective course after Grade 10.

Yes that means the Roman catholic Schools, and yes i went to one too.

4) Require a full visible face for government IDs such as driver license and Health Cards, and have the removal of such coverings mandatory in the event that identification is required by the law. (This may be law now but im not sure)

I mean if even in Iraq you cant cover your face for government IDs, and Tajikistan has banned face coverings, so religion should allow an exception here.
 

White_Unifier

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You don't like Pork? Welcome to islam!

I eat only the pork that my friends or family serve me. I don't buy my own though.

I don't mind the taste, but I'm still aware that it's not healthy. I prefer to eat vegan and I buy only vegan.

Many strict teetotaler vegans don't realize that their diet is in fact halal.

Your all over the place i notice. But i'll bite.

My values would be mostly to restricting Religion from interfering with a persons education health and safety. Here are a few:

1) Make all childhood shots mandatory such as those for Measles, tuberculosis, Polio etc.

I mean if the Maldives could eliminate measles from their country and they're a Muslim Nation then Religion should not be an excuse not to get vaccinated. That includes the Jehovah Witness's too.

2) Not allow an religious garment to substitute for safety equipment or PPE.

If they can make a Turban that can be approved to the DOT standard and can guarantee the same safety as a regular helmet then i would accept that.

3) Abolish all government funding for religious schools. Religion should only be available as an elective course after Grade 10.

Yes that means the Roman catholic Schools, and yes i went to one too.

4) Require a full visible face for government IDs such as driver license and Health Cards, and have the removal of such coverings mandatory in the event that identification is required by the law. (This may be law now but im not sure)

I mean if even in Iraq you cant cover your face for government IDs, and Tajikistan has banned face coverings, so religion should allow an exception here.

How is any of that unique (or at least mostly unique) to Canada (i.e. how is it a 'Canadian' value)?
 

Johnnny

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How is any of that unique to Canada (i.e. how is it a 'Canadian' value)?


The country is mostly full of athiests anyways.


Mostly values that I personally reject, such as official bilingualism and the separate school system. One that I'm particularly fond is is maple syrup. I value Canadian durum wheat too. I view universal ethics as far more relevant to my life than provincial values.

One of them is in line with your thinking about school systems. You in a previous post said its a Canadian value.
 

AMKiller

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Many European countries have hate speech laws, and it is a criminal offense to deny the Holocaust, i.e., examples of “thought crimes”. Canada also has anti-hate speech laws.







Western/White people don’t use water at all to clean their backside after answering the call of nature. We consider that extremely disgusting and unhygienic. They only use toilet paper. Now it is common sense that washing something filthy is superior to wiping it with paper. Furthermore, most Western/White people especially males do not remove their pubic hairs which adds to the unhygienic practice of not washing only wiping with paper, whereas Islam teaches both males and females to completely remove their pubic hair on a weekly basis, and also armpit hair. Islam stresses hygience more than any other religion. Now this is the 21st century but still so called enlightened and educated Western European people don’t have proper education about basic hygiene.
How would you know? I use a bidet after I wipe, always have. Muslims wipe their feces with their hands, no wiping beforehand, that is unhygienic.

Have you seen any pornos recently. Completely shaved of pubic hairs.
 

DaSleeper

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I eat only the pork that my friends or family serve me. I don't buy my own though.

I don't mind the taste, but I'm still aware that it's not healthy. I prefer to eat vegan and I buy only vegan.

Many strict teetotaler vegans don't realize that their diet is in fact halal.



How is any of that unique (or at least mostly unique) to Canada (i.e. how is it a 'Canadian' value)?
I'd like to see someone kill a moose the halal way......I really would :lol:
 

White_Unifier

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The country is mostly full of athiests anyways.




One of them is in line with your thinking about school systems. You in a previous post said its a Canadian value.

Of course official bilingualism and the separate school systems are Canadian values. They're entrenched in the constitution and are mostly unique to Canada, at least in their constitutionally specified forms. That doesn't mean that all Canadians subscribe to these values though. I acknowledge them as quintessential Canadian values and myself as a Canadian, but I still disagree with them. that still doesn't make them any less uniquely Canadian values.
 

Johnnny

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Of course official bilingualism and the separate school systems are Canadian values. They're entrenched in the constitution and are mostly unique to Canada, at least in their constitutionally specified forms. That doesn't mean that all Canadians subscribe to these values though. I acknowledge them as quintessential Canadian values and myself as a Canadian, but I still disagree with them. that still doesn't make them any less uniquely Canadian values.

Then consider what i said as Values Canada should use and adopt. They aren't unreasonable to be honest.
 

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They are absolutely comparable. Why be fooled by a different name? If someone denied the Holocaust happened in Europe publicly they will face criminal charges. Professors who even questioned the official narrative have been imprisoned. If that's not a blasphemy law than what is? It's the substance that matters.
Hate speech laws are a new phenomenon in western society. Muslims that preach Islamophobia bullcrap are the reason why we have them. See, you azzholes can't push for blasphemy laws so hate speech laws are close enough, as long as Pisslam isn't criticized you'll be happy.

Why shouldn’t I stereotype? Stereotypes are based on the general behavior not exceptions. Exceptions prove the rule. So I think most people don't take a full shower every time they go to the toilet. If you knew our ancient technique about washing the backside known as Istinjaa you would save a lot on hydro bills and wouldn't be in a dilemma when your not at home and have to go either.
So stereotyping is fine by you, terrorist. I guess I'm guilty of that too as I see this terrorist type behaviour by a large chunk of Muslims.

Murdering people because they drew a cartoon is also common with Muslims, as is threatening people's lives because they wrote a book about Mohammad's(may piss be upon him)satanic verses.
 
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So why confuse people by referring to values that are not unique to Canada 'Canadian values.' When I think of 'Canadian values,' I think of values that are unique to Canada.

Canada is unique, up to now we had a pretty good mix of socialism and open market



The change I’m talking about is a natural fluid change which is inevitable result of demographics. It isn’t even a conscious effort on our part. We are going to improve Canada. Again this is a predictive statement not something we are actively trying to do. But on the political scene, our voice is being amplified, as evidenced by the candidacy of Jagmeet Singh. We do plan on changing anything in terms of the political system or law which is harmful to our South Asian community. But the cultural and social change that will occur is a natural change that no one has control over. It will simply happen, so better learn to accept it.






What are “Canadian values”? That’s simply a code word for we don’t like Muslims and don’t want them here. But the fact is that we aren’t going anywhere, we are becoming more numerous and as a result our political influence will be amplified too. The Liberal Party has already realized this and the Conservatives are strongly regretting having antagonized us during the Harper years.

Starting to see you now



You are not here to join Canada you are here to change Canada, and if Singh is your man I have no fear of you changing anything

Okay?

Hate Speech Laws are not comparable to Blasphemy Laws. Hence why we don't have blasphemy laws.

I don't want to correct you, but a little research by the Troll would come up with Canada has a Blasphemy law and has had for a long time

Scrap Canada’s blasphemy law
 

ZulFiqar786

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Your all over the place i notice. But i'll bite.

My values would be mostly to restricting Religion from interfering with a persons education health and safety. Here are a few:

1) Make all childhood shots mandatory such as those for Measles, tuberculosis, Polio etc.

I mean if the Maldives could eliminate measles from their country and they're a Muslim Nation then Religion should not be an excuse not to get vaccinated. That includes the Jehovah Witness's too.




None of these are really values, more like particular policies you support. Anyways, it isn’t religion that prevents people from getting vaccines, it’s the fear that malicious governments use vaccines as cover to sterilize people or other kind of biological engineering and experimentation. If you think that’s paranoid and conspiratorial, then you should study the issue more in depth to see how various vaccine programs in the third world, I think Philippines is the most famous example, were actually used to experiment on sterilization. Otherwise here in Canada I don’t think anybody really has a problem with mandatory vaccines.



2) Not allow an religious garment to substitute for safety equipment or PPE.

If they can make a Turban that can be approved to the DOT standard and can guarantee the same safety as a regular helmet then i would accept that.




It’s a matter of weighing priorities and determining if the benefit outweighs the harm or not. If there ends up being an epidemic of turbanned Sikhs getting head injuries then the policy can easily be scrapped and will be understanable to everyone. At present, the only real reason such exemptions are being refused to Sikhs is out of negative feelings and deeply ingrained sentiments of White racism and prejudice.

3) Abolish all government funding for religious schools. Religion should only be available as an elective course after Grade 10.

Yes that means the Roman catholic Schools, and yes i went to one too.




I’m definitely in favor of scrapping govt. funding for Catholic schools, especially since that funding comes from our tax dollars. At the same time, parents who choose to send their children to any private religious school should get a tax credit for not using the public school system. Also, the government shouldn't interfere in the curriculum or policies of private religious schools.

4) Require a full visible face for government IDs such as driver license and Health Cards, and have the removal of such coverings mandatory in the event that identification is required by the law. (This may be law now but im not sure)

I mean if even in Iraq you cant cover your face for government IDs, and Tajikistan has banned face coverings, so religion should allow an exception here.




These are one of those artificial issues that are created to whip up hatred and negative feelings towards Muslims. Muslim ladies who veil their face with the niqab all without exception remove that veil for passport photos and other essential government ID. The only request we made was that Muslim ladies who veil their face should be granted a concession to uncover their face before a female officer with no other males present during the citizenship ceremony or police investigation, etc., a very reasonable and rational demand which was refused, again, purely out of negative feelings and bigotry.
 

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None of these are really values, more like particular policies you support. Anyways, it isn’t religion that prevents people from getting vaccines, it’s the fear that malicious governments use vaccines as cover to sterilize people or other kind of biological engineering and experimentation. If you think that’s paranoid and conspiratorial, then you should study the issue more in depth to see how various vaccine programs in the third world, I think Philippines is the most famous example, were actually used to experiment on sterilization. Otherwise here in Canada I don’t think anybody really has a problem with mandatory vaccines.








It’s a matter of weighing priorities and determining if the benefit outweighs the harm or not. If there ends up being an epidemic of turbanned Sikhs getting head injuries then the policy can easily be scrapped and will be understanable to everyone. At present, the only real reason such exemptions are being refused to Sikhs is out of negative feelings and deeply ingrained sentiments of White racism and prejudice.






I’m definitely in favor of scrapping govt. funding for Catholic schools, especially since that funding comes from our tax dollars. At the same time, parents who choose to send their children to any private religious school should get a tax credit for not using the public school system. Also, the government shouldn't interfere in the curriculum or policies of private religious schools.






These are one of those artificial issues that are created to whip up hatred and negative feelings towards Muslims. Muslim ladies who veil their face with the niqab all without exception remove that veil for passport photos and other essential government ID. The only request we made was that Muslim ladies who veil their face should be granted a concession to uncover their face before a female officer with no other males present during the citizenship ceremony or police investigation, etc., a very reasonable and rational demand which was refused, again, purely out of negative feelings and bigotry.
I've seen Muslim women driving with the niqab on. That's downright dangerous.

One Canadian value is letting women have their own identity. The niqab makes them faceless unidentifiable zombies. If there is one thing I'm in favour of it's banning the niqab. Every other Muslim dress is fine.

I agree with you about the government not funding religious schools and a tax credit is a good idea.
 

ZulFiqar786

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I've seen Muslim women driving with the niqab on. That's downright dangerous.

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That’s just stupid. Niqab leaves the eyes uncovered. Do you need your eyes to drive or your mouth? Get real dude.




Btw, I see a lot of Asians covering their faces with these surgical masks. They seem to be very paranoid about airborne bacteria or whatever. But hey to each his own. And there are a lot more Asians covering their faces with surgical masks than Muslim ladies using the niqab, who are very rare.