Tax exemption for Canadian families of three or more.

[White_Unifier]

Why don't you just run for office with all these great ideas of yours ?

Do you really think they're brilliant ideas? I think they're just common sense. Again, I'm not against spending money to help the poor. I'm just saying that we cannot rely on money as the only way to help the poor.

Deregulation to allow to build smaller less expensive houses and allowing mixed development should be a no-brainer.

Freedom of movement agreements I admit might be less obvious. We just think of foreigners coming to Canada while forgetting that statistically 9% of Canadians live abroad. As Canadian citizens, they can return to Canada at any time legally, so clearly the law is not what is keeping them away from Canada.

Though I have no doubt that many Canadians who live abroad are high-flying businessmen, I also know that at least some of them are poorer Canadians who found opportunities abroad. That said, their opportunities can be limited by visa regulations and such. So freedom of movement agreements would not only benefit people from other countries but poor Canadians looking for opportunities abroad too.


Again, I don't think my ideas are are particularly genius.

 

[captain morgan]

Though I have no doubt that many Canadians who live abroad are high-flying businessmen,

Like Omar Khadr.

 

[White_Unifier]

Like Omar Khadr.

What do you mean? He was a child soldier, not a businessman. I don't see the pertinence?

 

[captain morgan]

sorry, but even by UN standards he wasn't a child soldier.

Khadr and his ilk were/are in the business of terrorism

 

[White_Unifier]

sorry, but even by UN standards he wasn't a child soldier.

Khadr and his ilk were/are in the business of terrorism

then throw him in jail. I still don't see the pertinence to the thread.

 

[justlooking]

What do you mean? He was a child soldier, not a businessman. I don't see the pertinence?

Who do you think that 9% really is ?

It's not high flying businessmen, Canada does quite poor overall with international business.

Remember the tens of thousands of Lebanese we had to bring back in 2006 ?

Probably a quarter million Chinese as well.

All dual citizens (at least), all Canadians of convenience.

 

[White_Unifier]

Who do you think that 9% really is ?

It's not high flying businessmen, Canada does quite poor overall with international business.

Remember the tens of thousands of Lebanese we had to bring back in 2006 ?

Probably a quarter million Chinese as well.

All dual citizens (at least), all Canadians of convenience.

That statistic did not limit itself to dual citizens. Plus, given how many states do now allow dual citizenship (China included), it means that many Canadians living abroad probably have only Canadian citizenship.

Are you saying that 9% of Canadians have all joined IS and that Canadians are just all useless at business? If they are useless at business, the government is partly at fault. One reason Singaporeans and Hongkongese are so damn good at international business is because of their comparatively more open borders.

 

[captain morgan]

then throw him in jail. I still don't see the pertinence to the thread.

Pertinence is that it's a significant over generalization that it's only high flyin' businessmen that reside outside Canada.... makes me wonder if the next step is to tax these people based on this generalization

 

[White_Unifier]

Pertinence is that it's a significant over generalization that it's only high flyin' businessmen that reside outside Canada.... makes me wonder if the next step is to tax these people based on this generalization

You seem to have misunderstood. I'll quote myself again:

:Though I have no doubt that many Canadians who live abroad are high-flying businessmen, I also know that at least some of them are poorer Canadians who found opportunities abroad."

In fact, I would not be surprised if just as many if not more Canadians living abroad are just teaching English abroad or doing other such work for low pay by Canadian standards but still living better due to a lower cost of living.

So between the government throwing more money to the poor and the government just deregulating to help the poor help themselves, which would you prefer as a taxpayer?

 

[MHz]

It should be 12 or more that way we get children that are easier to train and fewer adults would mean fewer people who can't be retrained. Children raising children would even be more successful of a program. (once we get them to accept that they are orphans thanks to countries that Canada is best friends with that is)

 

[Angstrom]

Something's going to need to be done because when boomers want to finally unlock their homes equity, selling their house. I doubt there will be anywhere close to enough people in a financial position to buy that many properties.

 

[MHz]

Sure there will be, by people who will then rent them out to people on Government assistance, just like it happens today.

 

[White_Unifier]

Something's going to need to be done because when boomers want to finally unlock their homes equity, selling their house. I doubt there will be anywhere close to enough people in a financial position to buy that many properties.

Freedom-of-movement agreements could help with that. The best part of such an agreement is that while it would help the poor, it would not necessarily hurt the rich. If it hurts the rich, it would hurt it less than it would help the poor. And for all we know, it might even benefit the rich too. It would not necessarily be a zero sum game.

 

[Angstrom]

Sure there will be, by people who will then rent them out to people on Government assistance, just like it happens today.

It takes 7 people on government assistance renting in a house to pay the mortgage. The population is dropping by at least a few million in the next 10 years. All the people dieing are the ones who have houses.

I see a lot of abandoned houses on the horizon.the writing is all over on the wall.

Freedom-of-movement agreements could help with that. The best part of such an agreement is that while it would help the poor, it would not necessarily hurt the rich. If it hurts the rich, it would hurt it less than it would help the poor. And for all we know, it might even benefit the rich too. It would not necessarily be a zero sum game.

I don't know enough about freedom-of-movement to understand what you mean.

 

[White_Unifier]

It takes 7 people on government assistance renting in a house to pay the mortgage. The population is dropping by at least a few million in the next 10 years. All the people dieing are the ones who have houses.

I see a lot of abandoned houses on the horizon.the writing is all over on the wall.

They won't be abandoned. The price will just plummet.

 

[Angstrom]

They won't be abandoned. The price will just plummet.

If there are 100000 sellers and 20000 buyers
It doesn't matter how cheap you sell your house.
80000 houses will not sell.

You might consider lowering your prices to help yourself be one of the 20000 house that do.

 

[justlooking]

If there are 100000 sellers and 20000 buyers
It doesn't matter how cheap you sell your house.
80000 houses will not sell.

You might consider lowering your prices to help yourself be one of the 20000 house that do.

This is why TFWs can buy houses, to try and keep that market propped up at all costs.

 

[Angstrom]

Do you think its only by chance that millions have been spent on shorting the Canadian housing market? The market has been so shorted by speculators that you cant even find a stock to borrow to short it anymore.

 

[White_Unifier]

It takes 7 people on government assistance renting in a house to pay the mortgage. The population is dropping by at least a few million in the next 10 years. All the people dieing are the ones who have houses.

I see a lot of abandoned houses on the horizon.the writing is all over on the wall.



I don't know enough about freedom-of-movement to understand what you mean.

With freedom of movement, a Canadian who can't find a good opportunity in Canada could more easily find opportunities abroad with less bureaucratic hassle. At the same time, foreign nationals who see opportunities in Canada can do the same.

Consequently, poorer Canadians might go to find work abroad while wealthy foreigners will come to Canada. Exceptions aside, the poor tend to be less educated and the rich more so. Consequently, with more poor Canadians seeking opportunities abroad, those who remain face less competition for the available low-skilled jobs. Meanwhile, as competition for more skilled jobs increases, the cost of their products and services declines. As a result, with poorer Canadians leaving Canada and wealthy foreigners coming to Canada, the wages of the poor increase, those of the rich decline, and the services that the poor offer go up in price while those that the rich offer drop in price. As a result, we see a reduction in the wealth gap.

Also, as more wealthy people move to Canada, housing prices abroad drop while those in Canada increase at least for more high-end homes.

The market has a way to help the poor.

I'm not saying the government plays no role. I'm not saying we should not tax the rich and help the poor financially necessarily. I'm just saying that tax and spend cannot be the only way to help the poor. We can't afford it.

If there are 100000 sellers and 20000 buyers
It doesn't matter how cheap you sell your house.
80000 houses will not sell.

You might consider lowering your prices to help yourself be one of the 20000 house that do.

Freedom-of-movement agreements would solve that. Drop the price low enough, and suddenly as long as employment is available, more people will want to come to Canada.

 

[justlooking]

I don't know enough about freedom-of-movement to understand what you mean.

He thinks if we let every 3rd worlder in the Western Hemisphere come to Canada without any kind of visa,
buy a house, look for work, and settle in, that only the rich ones or the smart ones will come.

Pretty sure he also thinks we can deny any of these free access to the social and medical net.

And everything will be fine.

Do you think its only by chance that millions have been spent on shorting the Canadian housing market? The market has been so shorted by speculators that you cant even find a stock to borrow to short it anymore.

Of course it's not by chance, the imposition of these 15% foreign buyers taxes basically have just killed
the markets in Toronto and Vancouver, and the rest of the country just sucks atm.
Housing in Canada is 30-40% overpriced, and the bottom will drop out soon enough.


Smart boomers are already out, trading the city monstrosity for a bungalow out in the country,
and an extra 700k in the retirement fund.
The main exodus should start soon... maybe.