Urine-soaked senior detained in Denny's parking lot over sale of moon rock fragment

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Urine-soaked senior detained in Denny's parking lot over sale of moon rock fragment
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
First posted: Thursday, April 13, 2017 07:15 PM EDT | Updated: Thursday, April 13, 2017 07:22 PM EDT
SAN FRANCISCO — For nearly two hours on May 19, 2011, Joann Davis stood in the parking lot of a California Denny’s restaurant in pants soaked in urine answering questions from a federal agent about a rice-sized piece of moon rock she wanted to sell to help pay for her son’s medical care.
Davis, who was in her 70s, had contacted NASA about the rock and claimed it was a gift to her late husband from astronaut Neil Armstrong. But lunar material gathered on the Apollo missions is considered government property, and her email prompted an investigation that brought six armed officers to the Denny’s that day to seize the rock.
An indignant federal appeals court on Thursday criticized Davis’ detention by NASA agent Norman Conley in the Denny’s parking lot, calling it “unreasonably prolonged and unnecessarily degrading.”
Conley detained Davis even though he knew she was nearly 75 years old, had urinated in her pants during the sting, had reached out to NASA herself and was having financial problems, a three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said.
Instead of telling Davis that her possession of the paperweight was illegal and asking her to surrender it to NASA, Conley “organized a sting operation involving six armed officers to forcibly seize a lucite paperweight containing a moon rock the size of a rice grain from an elderly grandmother,” 9th Circuit Chief Judge Sidney Thomas wrote.
The appeals panel upheld a lower court ruling denying Conley immunity from Davis’ lawsuit alleging wrongful detention.
John Rubiner, an attorney for Conley, said he was examining the ruling and had not decided what to do next. He said a lower court judge, Consuelo Marshall in Los Angeles, determined that Conley had asked Davis if she wished to use the bathroom to clean up and whether she wanted to speak with him at her home, but she declined.
Marshall also said there was no evidence that Davis or her husband legally acquired or possessed the moon rock. Marshall said Davis told a confidential informant retained by NASA that she knew of other people who had gotten in trouble for possessing lunar rock, according to court documents. Davis sought $1.7 million for the rock.
In addition to the moon rock, Davis claimed she had a nickel-sized piece of the heat shield that protected the Apollo 11 space capsule as it returned to earth from the first successful manned mission to the moon in 1969. Investigators did not seek to seize that item.
NASA lunar experts later confirmed the authenticity of the moon rock in Davis’ possession, but prosecutors never filed charges against her, the 9th Circuit said. Armstrong, who died in 2012, had told investigators that he never gave or sold lunar material to anyone, according to an affidavit in the case.
This undated file image displayed on a search warrant provided by the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California shows a very small piece of moon rock, centre, taken from Joann Davis during a sting operation. (U.S District Court for the Central District of California via AP, File)

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I guess that explains why the moon rock is yellow. ;)
 

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It's easy to Get more. A lot more. Go to New Mexico and Arizona where the filming took place.
 

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How DARE a bunch of unelected librul judges question the purity of the motives and methods of our heroes in blue?

Support the police. Blue lives matter. Keeping us safe. Tough, dangerous job.
 

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How DARE a bunch of unelected librul judges question the purity of the motives and methods of our heroes in blue?

Support the police. Blue lives matter. Keeping us safe. Tough, dangerous job.

How does an astronaut and the first man to walk on the moon equate with a police officer..

Nevertheless, we know your hatred for the police or anything government.. It's well documented on this forum, they really must have screwed you over.
 

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How does an astronaut and the first man to walk on the moon equate with a police officer..
Thank you for demonstrating that you didn't understand the story.

OK, so your understanding of this story is that NASA Office of the Inspector General agent Conley was the first man on the moon.

Heh-heh. Thanks, Boom. You're always good for a belly laugh.

Nevertheless, we know your hatred for the police or anything government.. It's well documented on this forum, they really must have screwed you over.
Pretty much the same as your fawning and kinda creepy adoration of same.
 

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Thank you for demonstrating that you didn't understand the story.

OK, so your understanding of this story is that NASA Office of the Inspector General agent Conley was the first man on the moon.

Heh-heh. Thanks, Boom. You're always good for a belly laugh.

Pretty much the same as your fawning and kinda creepy adoration of same.

Yeah exactly what you replied to.. fukk off a die idiot.

So they detained Carol Armstrong, the wife of a American Hero.. HUH.

Making America Great Again in a Police State with Dictator Trump.
 

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So with an eager beaver like this Conley we have our answer to why there are so many wrongful imprisonments.

I am glad they upheld a lower court ruling denying Conley immunity from Davis’ lawsuit alleging wrongful detention and hopefully she can sue them for more than enough to pay for her son's medical care if he's even still alive.

And what's with the hard on for moon rocks?

Anyways, I found the original arrest story from 2011..........


The case was triggered by Davis herself, according to a search warrant affidavit written by Norman Conley, an agent for the inspector general.

She emailed a NASA contractor May 10 trying to find a buyer for the rock, as well as a nickel-sized piece of the heat shield that protected the Apollo 11 space capsule as it returned to earth from the first successful manned mission to the moon in 1969.

"I've been searching the internet for months attempting to find a buyer," Davis wrote. "If you have any thoughts as to how I can proceed with the sale of these two items, please call."

Davis told AP the items were among many of the space-related heirlooms her husband left her when he died in 1986.

Davis claims Armstrong gave the items to her husband, though the affidavit says the first man on the moon has previously told investigators he never gave or sold lunar material to anyone.

Conley declined to comment and NASA Office of the Inspector General spokeswoman Renee Juhans said she could not talk about an ongoing investigation.

Davis was eventually allowed home, without the moon rock, and was never booked into a police station or charged.

The affidavit states authorities believed Davis was in possession of stolen government property but so far they have not publicly revealed any proof.

"This (is) abhorrent behaviour by the federal government to steal something from a retiree that was given to her," said Davis's attorney, Peter Schlueter, who is planning legal action.

Woman, 74, claims agents roughed her up over moon rock
 

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So with an eager beaver like this Conley we have our answer to why there are so many wrongful imprisonments.
What bothers me even more is that he had six LEOs with him, and not one of them said "You really need to cut back on the caffeine, kemo sabe."
 

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So with an eager beaver like this Conley we have our answer to why there are so many wrongful imprisonments.
Nah, that's more a result of eager beaver prosecuting attorneys. Like the goof that hid evidence exonerating the accused simply to further his career with a victory. Or the ignorant twat in a rape case who successfully moved to have evidence quashed that proved the accused's innocence simply because she believed the so-called victim. There are many, many more instances.
When you have a system that rewards you for your success rate without concern as to whether justice actually was served or not, it's going to be prone to abuse by those who are perfectly willing to destroy an innocent person's life just to further their own career.
 

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This had me wondering as to what is the 'NASA Office of the Inspector General' does and it seems they do everything NASA related. I was wondering if maybe their only job was to hunt down moon rock bits and that's why they had so many staked out in her arrest.


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They're mostly auditor types. Conley apparently watched too many movies.

Nah, that's more a result of eager beaver prosecuting attorneys. Like the goof that hid evidence exonerating the accused simply to further his career with a victory. Or the ignorant twat in a rape case who successfully moved to have evidence quashed that proved the accused's innocence simply because she believed the so-called victim. There are many, many more instances.
When you have a system that rewards you for your success rate without concern as to whether justice actually was served or not, it's going to be prone to abuse by those who are perfectly willing to destroy an innocent person's life just to further their own career.
And because they know that if they get enough convictions, they'll be long gone into politics or the DoJ by the time the evidence emerges to show they railroaded people.
 

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They're mostly auditor types. Conley apparently watched too many movies.


And because they know that if they get enough convictions, they'll be long gone into politics or the DoJ by the time the evidence emerges to show they railroaded people.

... too many movies with Zombies as the main characters ...