Canadians voice support for Muslims amid ‘hatred’ unleashed at Liberal MP

Machjo

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The Swedish Equality Ombudsman says that racism "originally is a word that describes the division of people in a "race system"( like Apartheid) where certain races are biologically subordinated others. Today we talk more about culture racism - the notion that cultures are absolute, unchangeable and define the individual's characteristics."[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_racism



This actually supports my point.

There may be differences in biology or even preference in diet across many in the Islamic world, but what makes them part of one group actually defines a solidified, cultural state or identity. That cultural identity is their 'race', in which discriminating against same is simply racism.


It's really not that hard to understand.


In that sense, there's a Christian culture too. Christmas, Easter, commmon mores, etc. No different.

But not many Western Christians would identify their culture as just Christian. Only their religious culture, but not other aspects of their culture like language, food, etc.
 

mentalfloss

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Its ethnic group, not race. His argument supports Ethnic group




In that sense, there's a Christian culture too. Christmas, Easter, commmon mores, etc. No different.

But not many Western Christians would identify their culture as just Christian. Only their religious culture, but not other aspects of their culture like language, food, etc.

Of course, but there is a concept of Christian culture and it's that idea, when discriminated against - that becomes the catalyst for racism against Christians. Or christophobia as it's called.

If you read the frist paragraph of that, it states that 'Muslim culture' is a term used mostly in secular academia. Not all Muslims themselves would agree with it. It's like the atheist Jew or the cultural Christian or the atheist Muslim. To believers, it's an oxymoron, to non-beleivers, Jew = Hebrew, Cristian = Westerner and Muslim = Arab.

If 'muslim culture' were a nebulous concept that was confined to academic circles, then this wouldn't be the problem that it is today.
 

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Ah yes, no concept of reciprocity. Just wait till others retaliate against his tariffs. Oops.

I actually agree 100%.

If he taxes other countries, they could tax him back which basically means a tax on the US.

So that does support my original idea that he is also tax and spend.


Wait.. what thread are we in?


 

gerryh

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It all comes down to bigotry and only those that don't have a valid argument start arguing semantics.
 

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If she wants to help all religions then mention all religions, not just one religion...

And now this silliness about Islam being a race?

If the media went on bigotry alone then no one would really care because were all pretty much atheists in Canada. But throw in racism and now you got a story... Sensational!!!

Change the definition of racism to suit Islams needs, check , table a motion only mentioning one religion by name while at the same time saying it represents all religions, check... And its cynical/racist/intolerant to point these points out and question these two points... Cynical!!!

The point i was trying to make is that your not a racist if you dont support this motion based on how its worded.

I dont support the motion and im not a racist.
 

MHz

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I would believe you if it was not for the biased moose avatar. Mooses are quite pretty unless they are trying to run you down.
 

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I don't think the motion is saying that Islam is a superior religion, nor even that it condones discrimination against followers of other religions. But it does seem to suggest that Islamophobia is somehow more worthy of condemnation than other forms of discrimination on the basis of religion.



There's a difference between a religion and an ideology. The Jewish, Christian, and Muslim Faiths are religions, whereas Zionism, Christian Reconstructionism, and Islamism are ideologies.
I agree with your reasoning Machjo.
 

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It all comes down to bigotry and only those that don't have a valid argument start arguing semantics.

They're trying really hard to delete the word Islamophobia.

I wonder why they're so afraid of it.
 

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They're trying really hard to delete the word Islamophobia.

I wonder why they're so afraid of it.

The word "Islamophobia" needs to be defined because if its not defined then the report that is being called for in the motion will lead to some very poor conclusions. With what definition will the report use to define Islamophobia? The Oxford one, the Websters one, the Cairo Declaration one?
 

Locutus

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They're trying really hard to delete the word Islamophobia.

I wonder why they're so afraid of it.

nobody is 'afraid' of islam you retard. no matter how hard you progs try to gaslight sensible people.

there is no 'phobia'. your standard labeling is weak and obvious.

radical islam is a fukking problem.

ya follah?
 

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It's not a problem.

That's what makes it a phobia.

You're afraid of something that's not a problem.

Come at me bro.

The word "Islamophobia" needs to be defined because if its not defined then the report that is being called for in the motion will lead to some very poor conclusions. With what definition will the report use to define Islamophobia? The Oxford one, the Websters one, the Cairo Declaration one?

The definition is clear.

It's discrimination of Islam based on an irrational fear.
 

Locutus

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It's not a problem.

That's what makes it a phobia.

no stupid, radical islam is a problem and you will not convince common-sensed individuals otherwise. your attempts are futile.

islam is as dumb as the rest of the world religions. that's it's only problem.
 

mentalfloss

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We're living in the safest times.

Not my problem you are afraid of mosques.

Just don't shoot any up, k?

K.