Trudeau Is Going To Bury Us In Debt

[Machjo]

The social blanket will cushion their bad decisions, so why bother making the right decision's

And there is the ultimate flaw in our society.



Replacing our population with immigration is not a solution to our problem that we no longer produce anything. Not even our own children.

Ironically, allowing more immigration would probably raise the birth rate among the native population. By blocking immigration, we stagnate the economy. As a result, workers in precarious jobs hold off on having children, and this results in a vicious cycle of further economic stagnation and holding off.

Allowing more immigration grows the economy, creates jobs and economic stability, and consequently can motivate the native population to have more children.

When you think about, it, people react rationally to the marketplace, even when it comes to having children. The more open the market, the better for the most part.

 

[Angstrom]

Ironically, allowing more immigration would probably raise the birth rate among the native population. By blocking immigration, we stagnate the economy. As a result, workers in precarious jobs hold off on having children, and this results in a vicious cycle of further economic stagnation and holding off.

Allowing more immigration grows the economy, creates jobs and economic stability, and consequently can motivate the native population to have more children.

When you think about, it, people react rationally to the marketplace, even when it comes to having children. The more open the market, the better for the most part.

I agree.


But I still know our low population growth is a sign that the cost of life and maintenance of our social blanket is much too high resulting in people having chosen to abstain from having kids.

Who could have the coping skills to deal with the consequences of having kids when you have lived your whole life in a social blanket with next to no consequences to anything you decide.

 

[Machjo]

I agree.


But I still know our low population growth is a sign that the cost of life and maintenance of our social blanket is much too high resulting in people having chosen to abstain from having kids.

Who could have the coping skills to deal with the consequences of having kids when you have lived your whole life in a social blanket with next to no consequences to anything you decide.

I would say it's the opposite. A good social blanket would provide stability and so raise the birth rate, but there is a catch. A good and stable social blanket requires higher taxes, and higher taxes would reduce the birth rate. On that front, we need to promote a more efficient economy. I'm not against a hand up. Heck, I'm very much in favour of skills training for the unemployed. But we must ensure that a hand up is not a hand out.

We must listen to the poor too. For example, imagine a socialist going up to a poor heroin addict and saying: if you vote for me, I'll give you more money.

The heroin addict says: You fool! I don't want more money. I want help. Give me rehab, lock me up in prison for a year if you must, give me skills training, for fer cryin' out loud, don't give me more drug money. Are you trying to kill me or something?!

 

[Angstrom]

I would say it's the opposite. A good social blanket would provide stability and so raise the birth rate, but there is a catch. A good and stable social blanket requires higher taxes, and higher taxes would reduce the birth rate. On that front, we need to promote a more efficient economy. I'm not against a hand up. Heck, I'm very much in favour of skills training for the unemployed. But we must ensure that a hand up is not a hand out.

We must listen to the poor too. For example, imagine a socialist going up to a poor heroin addict and saying: if you vote for me, I'll give you more money.

The heroin addict says: You fool! I don't want more money. I want help. Give me rehab, lock me up in prison for a year if you must, give me skills training, for fer cryin' out loud, don't give me more drug money. Are you trying to kill me or something?!

How do you explain high birth rates in countries with zero social blankets like in Africa?

 

[Remington1]

I'm not sure about that. I'm sure the government was probably forced to raise taxes and cut spending to get help from other governments and the IMF.

Maybe that's what Canada needs. A tough pill to swallow, but I bet Greece will see an economic miracle in a few decades thanks to the balanced budgets forced on it. The balanced budgets will toughen them up as a people, and they'll probably end up with a streamlined, no frills no gimmicks government as a result.

That's the difference, we never dogged paying taxes. We have always paid taxes. I actually cannot see any correlation between Canada and Greece, not at all. We are in trouble, but nothing like Greece. We have 3 years left.

 

[Angstrom]

I explain them with my explanation.

These people are so used to reality and the consequences of reality having kids is nothing. It's actually a enjoyable part of their lives. From their perspective.

 

[Machjo]

How do you explain high birth rates in countries with zero social blankets like in Africa?

Culture is probably a factor too.

The social safety net ought to be a had up not a hand out. We need to pay the debt to reduce interest rates too. That too would make the cost of living more affordable. Then we need to gradually lower taxes. In the meantime though, more immigration would expand the tax base to pay the debt.

 

[Angstrom]

Culture is probably a factor too.

The social safety net ought to be a had up not a hand out. We need to pay the debt to reduce interest rates too. That too would make the cost of living more affordable. Then we need to gradually lower taxes. In the meantime though, more immigration would expand the tax base to pay the debt.

Yes. The culture of living in reality where everything is hard and has consequences.

I just understand wtf is going on, and you're a clueless dink

 

[Machjo]

Yes. The culture of living in reality where everything is hard and has consequences.

I am curious to know that taxes are like there too. But also, among the less educated, there might be less concern for the child's education. Accidental conception might be more common among them too, same in Canada.

Among the better educated, there might be a greater concern for ensuring that they will be able to provide their child with a good education before committing to having a child. A different mindset.

Yes. The culture of living in reality where everything is hard and has consequences.

I just understand wtf is going on, and you're a clueless dink

How did that add to the conversation?

Are you saying every sperm is sacred?

 

[Angstrom]

Animals in reality don't pay taxes and have no social blanket. They don't have birthing problems. See the connection?

 

[Machjo]

I believe human life begins at conception, not before conception.

Animals in reality don't pay taxes and have no social blanket. They don't have birthing problems. See the connection?

And they're all illiterate. Are you suggesting we all return to the cave-man era?

 

[Angstrom]

Our society is bubbling wrapping us into soft spoiled humans that can't cope with the reality of producing our own children.

 

[Machjo]

Are you saying that people should not plan on having children but should just hit the sack and let whatever happens happen?

Our society is bubbling wrapping us into soft spoiled humans that can't cope with the reality of producing our own children.

We do produce our own children, just not necessarily in endogamous marriages. We're having more mixed children from exogamous marriages. Does that make our children less valuable because they're not pure bred?

 

[Angstrom]

Are you saying that people should not plan on having children but should just hit the sack and let whatever happens happen?



We do produce our own children, just not necessarily in endogamous marriages. We're having more mixed children from exogamous marriages. Does that make our children less valuable because they're not pure bred?

No I'm saying 90% of Canadian born are little spoiled pussies that couldn't survive 1 hour in the jungle.

And have no grasp on reality of life without the social blanket.

 

[Machjo]

No I'm saying 90% of Canadian born are little spoiled pussies that couldn't survive 1 hour in the jungle.

And many of those who could make a life for themselves in the jungle couldn't find a job in the city. What's your point?

No I'm saying 90% of Canadian born are little spoiled pussies that couldn't survive 1 hour in the jungle.

And have no grasp on reality of life without the social blanket.

Strangely enough some have children while on social assistance while workers choose to hold off on having children. How do you explain that?

 

[Angstrom]

It's obvious to me. If you can't answer those two questions with the information I've already provided, I don't think you have enough intelligence to ever comprehend.

 

[Machjo]

It's obvious to me. If you can't answer those two questions with the information I've already provided, I don't think you have enough intelligence to ever comprehend.

So can you explain that to me in plain English please? How is it that people on social assistance have children while workers choose to hold off?

 

[Angstrom]

So can you explain that to me in plain English please? How is it that people on social assistance have children while workers choose to hold off?

I'll have 12 kids if you want to pay me. Heck I'll have 32 .Teachers do it everyday.

 

[Machjo]

I'll have 12 kids if you want to pay me. Heck I'll have 32 .Teachers do it everyday.

So you think we should pay people to have kids? Why not promote more efficiency in social programmes, reduce the debt, and then reduce taxes so people can take better care of themselves?

 

[Angstrom]

So you think we should pay people to have kids? Why not promote more efficiency in social programmes, reduce the debt, and then reduce taxes so people can take better care of themselves?

No.


I think paying people to have kids takes away the consequences and compensates them for the consequences of having kids for which Canadians have no coping skills to deal with the difficulties.