Dude i've traveled to 25 countries and i have not met anyone who spoke esperanto. I've met a lot of people who spoke many languages and not one of them told me that they spoke esperanto. And people love to brag about the # of languages they speak.
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Dude i've traveled to 25 countries and i have not met anyone who spoke esperanto. I've met a lot of people who spoke many languages and not one of them told me that they spoke esperanto. And people love to brag about the # of languages they speak.
I speak 4 languages, and I met more Esperanto-speakers than French-speakers in China. Plus Esperanto is from five to ten times easier to learn than English and I presume French too.
Numbers aside though, I found that while the prevalent form of English in China as in Quebec was broken to the point of risking misinterpretation in any higher-level communication, Esperanto-speakers, as few in number as they are, master the language.
Just because a few people learned this language so far doesn't mean there is a flaw in English. The people who learn Esperanto want to and have the time to learn it. If Esperanto was as wide spread as English it would suffer the same number of misinterpretations as English does.
A study done in France in the eighties found that an average French speaker achieved an equal level of proficiency in his second language after 2000 hours of German, 1500 hours of English, 1000 hours of Italian, and 150 hours of Esperanto.
Going from from 1500 hours for English to 150 for Esperanto is no rounding error.
That's fair it is easier to learn i'll admit that. But if it got to that point it would still be subjected to regional differences over time and eventually break apart into other languages, that's inevitable.
I don't think so, and here's why. Statistically even today, around 70% of the world's English speakers (not counting those who can't even hold a conversation in the language) speak it as a mother tongue. As a result, they pick up unique local native English idiosyncrasies.
In the case of Esperanto, over 99% speak it as a second language. This means most would learn it formally in school and would tend to use it only in interlinguistic communication. This would promote a normalising effect on the language.
Indonesian is a good example. With over 70% speaking Indonesian as a second language, it is highly normalized among its around 200 million speakers.
Consider too that accent variations if English that existed since before the modern age have been diminishing. So I don't see why Esperanto would break apart, especially due to its grmatical regularity.
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I know some people who speak Klingon, Romulan and Pig Latin too. Which one have you heard before?
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I've heard of each, have heard some of each on TV long ago, but know none of them. But I would guess that, except for Pig Latin which would be even more difficult to learn than English since it is English with added rules, Klingon and Romulan are probably much easier to learn since they would have been devised with busy actors in mind.
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It's interesting to note that Ontario has reversed the prohibition on French schools but not German schools. The two founding races and all that jazz I suppose.
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Organizers of this year's St. Jean Baptiste celebrations in Montreal have issued an apology to anyone offended by the sight of black teens pushing floats carrying white people during Saturday's parade.
A video recorded at the parade and posted online shows pop singer Annie Villeneuve on a float being pushed by what appears to be only people of colour dressed in what many said looked like the rags of slaves. Surrounding the float were droves of choir members, all dressed in white.
The video has been shared more than 15,000 times as many viewers comment how the float resembled a historical depiction of slavery.
But parade organizers say that depicting slavery was never their intention.
"Certainly, the team never intended to relay a racist image," according to a French-language statement released on Monday.
Black teens pushing float weren't meant to resemble slaves, parade organizers say | CTV News
A video recorded at the parade and posted online shows pop singer Annie Villeneuve on a float being pushed by what appears to be only people of colour dressed in what many said looked like the rags of slaves. Surrounding the float were droves of choir members, all dressed in white.
The video has been shared more than 15,000 times as many viewers comment how the float resembled a historical depiction of slavery.
But parade organizers say that depicting slavery was never their intention.
"Certainly, the team never intended to relay a racist image," according to a French-language statement released on Monday.
Black teens pushing float weren't meant to resemble slaves, parade organizers say | CTV News