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And this is where the right continue to be naive.

It starts from the top not from the grass roots.

And that's where the left gets it wrong.

Everything we have today. Is because of one man in his garage. Who made it happen.

Even Bill gates Microsoft ;)
 

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LOL

Sorry, that was too funny.

Delusional, but funny.

Cars ;).

One guy in his garage ;)

Bill gate Microsoft

One guy in his garage

All the technology you see today, started with one guy who tinkered long enough, and figured it out.
 

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That's great.

I never said private industry shouldn't exist.

You're the one making the ideological (and obviously delusional) claim that it's responsible for everything.


This is part of the conbot fallacy of putting a dollar bill on everything.

You just can't wrap your head around the fact that this isn't the case.
 

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Until people tinker with solar panels in their garage and figure it out for themselves. It's not going to happen :lol:

That's great.

I never said private industry shouldn't exist.

You're the one making the ideological (and obviously delusional) claim that it's responsible for everything.


This is part of the conbot fallacy of putting a dollar bill on everything.

You just can't wrap your head around the fact that this isn't the case.

They weren't privet industry when they were tinkering in their garage. They became that after.
 

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Sorry you lost this one.

Maybe in 100 years when private industry (which includes both corporations and self-employed individuals) finally gets the value low enough to make your free market idealism work you will get to say I told you so.


Fortunately, for those of us that don't want to wait that long, there's a better way.

 

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The car industry didn't start big and work itself down, like you want solar panel industry to do

It started in small shops like Ford and work itself up from its small garage beginning.

Sorry you lost this one.

Maybe in 100 years when private industry (which includes both corporations and self-employed individuals) finally gets the value low enough to make your free market idealism work you will get to say I told you so.


Fortunately, for those of us that don't want to wait that long, there's a better way.


That's why it won't happen.
As long as people can't do it for themselves you won't see solar panels on people's houses.

The vote, is only a public perception. It's not a real substitute for the reality of actually getting in your garage and figuring out how to install a solar panel on your roof :lol:

Perception of doing is not doing ;)
 

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The car industry did not initially need to flourish within a time constraint in order to avoid certain destructive consequences.

A completely free market will not produce the renewable industry quick enough to meet those constraints.

By the way, you don't need solar panels on individual houses. You only need the infrastructure to provide the delivery method based on a renewable source.

And if you don't care about which government is in power, then just take it easy and enjoy the ride.
 

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The car industry did not initially need to flourish within a time constraint in order to avoid certain destructive consequences.

A completely free market will not produce the renewable industry quick enough to meet those constraints.

Then it won't happen under your model it will spark and fizzle
 

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People have got to want this so badly they are willing to spend thousands of houres in their garage to make this work.

That's an arbitrary statement without any supporting evidence.

Based on the last 20 years of sparks and fizzle.
 

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The car industry did not initially need to flourish within a time constraint in order to avoid certain destructive consequences.

A completely free market will not produce the renewable industry quick enough to meet those constraints.

By the way, you don't need solar panels on individual houses. You only need the infrastructure to provide the delivery method based on a renewable source.

And if you don't care about which government is in power, then just take it easy and enjoy the ride.

Oh, now I see, you drank the global warming kool-aid. That's all I need to know. Anything you say after is meaningless and irrelevant as the insane raving it is.
 

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Based on the last 20 years of sparks and fizzle.

The last every years have seen higher fossil fuel subsidies than renewable subsidies combined with significant market forces for the oil industry and technological advances in extraction and delivery.

This is an industry in its prime, but it is also one that will inevitably die for obvious reasons.


Oh, now I see, you drank the global warming kool-aid. That's all I need to know. Anything you say after is meaningless and irrelevant as the insane raving it is.

Science is insane raving?
 

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The last every years have seen higher fossil fuel subsidies than renewable subsidies combined with significant market forces for the oil industry and technological advances in extraction and delivery.

Now, if the tree huggers actually bought this stuff it would actually take off like a rocket.
But they don't.
 

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You're making my point about top down intervention here.

Not when I'm suggesting the bottom, buys the product and figures out how to install it because it's to expensive.

And saving on the labour is a way to cut cost.

By figuring it out in their garage. ;)
 

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Not when I'm suggesting the bottom, buys the product and figures out how to install it because it's to expensive.

But they won't.

Which is why <insert my point about top down for the fourth time now>
 

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But they won't.

Which is why <insert my point about top down for the fourth time now>

If they won't then it won't happen top bottom.

The reason why:

Top bottom method is like producing supply, befor there is a demand.
Bottom top method is having demand, creating supply.


See how your looking at this all wrong Floss.
 

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The last every years have seen higher fossil fuel subsidies than renewable subsidies combined with significant market forces for the oil industry and technological advances in extraction and delivery.

This is an industry in its prime, but it is also one that will inevitably die for obvious reasons.




Science is insane raving?

When the "science" actually says the median global temperature is .075 degrees colder than 50 years ago and seemingly is dropping any deranged ravings about 'global warming' are completely insane.