Why disbelievers deny the Next Life

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If you live in Canada is colour you illiterate bastard. :)
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Now if I was a cult leader, I'd definitely need a army of soldiers that wouldn't be afraid of dieing to help fight all my enemies. I'd then indoctrinate belief of eternal life if one believes and follows my teaching. Jackpot! A soldier that never flees and fights till the last man.

Brainwashing is a powerful tool. For good or for evil.
 

darkbeaver

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Now if I was a cult leader, I'd definitely need a army of soldiers that wouldn't be afraid of dieing to help fight all my enemies. I'd then indoctrinate belief of eternal life if one believes and follows my teaching. Jackpot! A soldier that never flees and fights till the last man.

Brainwashing is a powerful tool. For good or for evil.

If you wer';e a cult leader for what? twenty five seconds? It's a big planet, stay away from us. Or else!
 

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I'm just saying, Use your brains here people. Mind altering beliefs are no laughing matter.
 

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Actually you're partially right there is a sense of sadness when I realize your incredibly inept attempts at trying to display some sense of coherence. I might shed a tear or two as I contemplate your experience in the straight jackets. LOL. You need to just be thankful they didn't do the lobotomy on ye like they did to poor ole RP Mcmertry in the movie "One flew Over the cuckoos Nest". There may have been a big ole indian that'd snuff ye worthless a$$ out.


Now shet ye trap and take your pills tommy.
You having flashbacks and thinking a movie is real life? You might want to back off on the amount of troll-juice you are taking.
 

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You should not advise us as to humour, if yer mind can't be altered it's worthless, ev
olution wise

Oh no, it's not that my mind can't, it's that I'm aware of the side effects they have, so I use them wisely if not as sparely as possible, and after long thoughtful consideration.
 

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I doubt you would have made out any better than you have in the here and now. Lost and alone and clueless.
 

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Did I mention that at your age change is also hopeless. Lets see if I can contain you to just 1 or 2 threads instead of you ****ing up all the ones you troll me on.

You would have done well in the first century washing sauls nasty feet and getting his coffee and such. Timothy would have been jealous. :)
You would be licking their butt-holes clean. As it is nothing but **** comes out of your mouth anymore. Even your dead bother would be bitch-slapping the stupid out of you. Obviously he took a different route to get the **** away from you.
 

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You should have just picked up on some earlier post and grabbed a topic from there. Andddddd done. I only do that for people who show an interest in the book. Ge:1-3 written by Moses, Re:20-22 written by May of Bethany, aka the Beloved Disciple. Since neither knew each other is is impossible that they could write about the beginning and end of the same object, this earth.
Wow. I can't even say nice try on that one. Who says they couldn't? One made up a bunch of **** about how the Earth was created and the other made up a bunch of **** about how the world as we know it, will end. They don't have to know each other to tack on whatever ridiculous beliefs they feel like adding.


EVERY deity based religion has a creation story and most, if not all, have an end of the world story. The stories of the beginning and end of the world aren't unique to the Abrahamic religions. The Flood story isn't unique to them either. Hell, even the Australian aborigines have a flood story that long predates their contact with other cultures. In fact, even the Resurrection story isn't unique to Christianity. The names and places and circumstances of death are different, but the basic premise is similar.


But the major problem with the English language Bible is it's a translation of a now dead language, that was translated from a now dead language, that was translated from a language that's so dead , only about half a dozen people on the planet can interpret it.
Not only that but the Book of Genesis in it's original language, is written in the allegorical. Translating from one language to another can be tricky, often times losing the true sentiment or meaning behind what was said/written. Translating from the allegorical of a long dead language into English or any other modern language can be nearly impossible because we have to assume some things in order for it to make sense. Kind of like when physicists devise new kinds of math to try and prove their theories. You make some sh*t up to bridge the gaps in your understanding and voila, problem solved.
Only in the case of the Bible it's even worse because the dead language the English Bible was translated from had already done the assuming of the allegorical meanings, which would be magnified as each new translation came out.

Some of you replies on a few other threads had me pegging you for being Jewish for all intensive purposes. (if not actually Jewish at least a Gentile who is anything but anti-semetic, feel free to correct me is that is in error. LL has also indicated that Jews are special to him)
Really? Because I support Israel's right to exist without being constantly attacked simply for existing? Supporting Israel doesn't make me a Jew. Are Christian-Israeli's, Jews? How about Musim-Israelis? Are they Jews too?


In case you haven't figure it out by now, I'm anti-religion, not anti-semetic. If I was anti-semetic, I'd hate Arabic people too. I don't hate Arabic people, I just don't like Muslims. Not a big fan of a lot of "Christians" either.
 

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Did I mention that at your age change is also hopeless. Lets see if I can contain you to just 1 or 2 threads instead of you ****ing up all the ones you troll me on.


You would be licking their butt-holes clean. As it is nothing but **** comes out of your mouth anymore. Even your dead bother would be bitch-slapping the stupid out of you. Obviously he took a different route to get the **** away from you.
LMAO. Lets all hear it for the good Christian. LMFAO.

Face it Tommy. the psyche drugs didn't help. Maybe it's time to just get back on the booze with an occasional stint at the rehab from time to time like it was in the old days. :)
 

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Wow. I can't even say nice try on that one. Who says they couldn't? One made up a bunch of **** about how the Earth was created and the other made up a bunch of **** about how the world as we know it, will end. They don't have to know each other to tack on whatever ridiculous beliefs they feel like adding.
Moses did an oral book and Daniel repaired the errors and brought it back to the original condition for all books. You forgot to cover that aspect, how would Daniel know what to fix as there was no copy of the one Moses taught. Nor were women taught all the things that Mary would have has to have known to even come up with any sort of ending that further defined what fallen angels were in reality.

EVERY deity based religion has a creation story and most, if not all, have an end of the world story. The stories of the beginning and end of the world aren't unique to the Abrahamic religions. The Flood story isn't unique to them either. Hell, even the Australian aborigines have a flood story that long predates their contact with other cultures. In fact, even the Resurrection story isn't unique to Christianity. The names and places and circumstances of death are different, but the basic premise is similar.
Which ones show the earth to be 4B years old and time being set only 40M years ago and which ones prophecies about the end of the earth being with fire that would happen about 3.6B years from when Revelations was written about 100AD? No one is how many cover those aspects

But the major problem with the English language Bible is it's a translation of a now dead language, that was translated from a now dead language, that was translated from a language that's so dead , only about half a dozen people on the planet can interpret it.
Greek for the NT and Hebrew for the OT, Moses gave an oral book and the Torah was only written down after the Jews were put into exile into Babylon for corrupting the teachings. Once a book is broken it cannot be put back together as nobody would know what to do to get it back to the way it was when Moses gave it. Probably not an accident that you forgot to include these events.

Not only that but the Book of Genesis in it's original language, is written in the allegorical. Translating from one language to another can be tricky, often times losing the true sentiment or meaning behind what was said/written.
Moses gave it as an oral book, lets start there rather than you claiming it was written down from the beginning/

Translating from the allegorical of a long dead language into English or any other modern language can be nearly impossible because we have to assume some things in order for it to make sense.
It was Jews in Jerusalem who translated the OT into English, you saying they dis a piss poor job of it? The NT was written in Greek and experts translated that into English, you saying that would have been an impossible task.

Kind of like when physicists devise new kinds of math to try and prove their theories. You make some sh*t up to bridge the gaps in your understanding and voila, problem solved.
Only in the case of the Bible it's even worse because the dead language the English Bible was translated from had already done the assuming of the allegorical meanings, which would be magnified as each new translation came out.
Sounds like they would be faking something really. You should read the preface to the KJV 1611 edition. It might correct some of your misconceptions or do you know more about the book than the people involved in that original English version?

Really? Because I support Israel's right to exist without being constantly attacked simply for existing? Supporting Israel doesn't make me a Jew. Are Christian-Israeli's, Jews? How about Musim-Israelis? Are they Jews too?
Constantly attacked? Statements like that make you as Jewish as anything since they are the only ones who believe that crap. Want a history lesson from Mikp Peled on just what did go on starting in November 1947. The 5:45 mark is where you can start to learn the actual facts rather than what the Jews have spoon fed you as top what happened in those years. You blind support makes you as much as a radical as any Christian or Muslin or Jew.



In case you haven't figure it out by now, I'm anti-religion, not anti-semetic. If I was anti-semetic, I'd hate Arabic people too. I don't hate Arabic people, I just don't like Muslims. Not a big fan of a lot of "Christians" either.
You are pro Jewish and anti Christian and anti Muslin, too chicken to just come out and admit it. Poor baby.
 

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Moses did an oral book and Daniel repaired the errors and brought it back to the original condition for all books. You forgot to cover that aspect, how would Daniel know what to fix as there was no copy of the one Moses taught. Nor were women taught all the things that Mary would have has to have known to even come up with any sort of ending that further defined what fallen angels were in reality.


Which ones show the earth to be 4B years old and time being set only 40M years ago and which ones prophecies about the end of the earth being with fire that would happen about 3.6B years from when Revelations was written about 100AD? No one is how many cover those aspects


Greek for the NT and Hebrew for the OT, Moses gave an oral book and the Torah was only written down after the Jews were put into exile into Babylon for corrupting the teachings. Once a book is broken it cannot be put back together as nobody would know what to do to get it back to the way it was when Moses gave it. Probably not an accident that you forgot to include these events.


Moses gave it as an oral book, lets start there rather than you claiming it was written down from the beginning/


It was Jews in Jerusalem who translated the OT into English, you saying they dis a piss poor job of it? The NT was written in Greek and experts translated that into English, you saying that would have been an impossible task.


Sounds like they would be faking something really. You should read the preface to the KJV 1611 edition. It might correct some of your misconceptions or do you know more about the book than the people involved in that original English version?


Constantly attacked? Statements like that make you as Jewish as anything since they are the only ones who believe that crap. Want a history lesson from Mikp Peled on just what did go on starting in November 1947. The 5:45 mark is where you can start to learn the actual facts rather than what the Jews have spoon fed you as top what happened in those years. You blind support makes you as much as a radical as any Christian or Muslin or Jew.




You are pro Jewish and anti Christian and anti Muslin, too chicken to just come out and admit it. Poor baby.
Pure T horse manure from Tommy the Theologian. :) He learned his theology at the bar.

You should be ashamed of yourself hell I'm embarrassed for ye. I've already had my fun blowing your cover I'll let Jin have fun with your lyin ayce. :)
 

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then what is your excuse?
For attracting trolls? It's a collective site, you of all people should know that if you support all things Jewish you are smiled omn and if you question things associated with them you get the anti-semitic label and the trolls jump on you. I've seen a few people pushed around enough that they left. I have a tendency to push back harder when the facts are on my side.
I would say you can give it your best shot but by now I know you well enough that you are shooting blanks and you need the support of others to make you look good and that just doesn't happen like it did in the 'good old days'. Suck it up buttercup or the coming changes will run you over, not that it would bother me in the least.
 

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For attracting trolls? It's a collective site, you of all people should know that if you support all things Jewish you are smiled omn and if you question things associated with them you get the anti-semitic label and the trolls jump on you. I've seen a few people pushed around enough that they left. I have a tendency to push back harder when the facts are on my side.
I would say you can give it your best shot but by now I know you well enough that you are shooting blanks and you need the support of others to make you look good and that just doesn't happen like it did in the 'good old days'. Suck it up buttercup or the coming changes will run you over, not that it would bother me in the least.
How bout that Sermon on the discourse eh tommy?

How bout that Sermon on the discourse eh tommy?
LOL..you lyin biotch. :)
 

MHz

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Pure T horse manure from Tommy the Theologian. :) He learned his theology at the bar.

You should be ashamed of yourself hell I'm embarrassed for ye. I've already had my fun blowing your cover I'll let Jin have fun with your lyin ayce. :)
You ran out of ammo a few pages back, just not smart enough top pack it in. You saying the Jewish man Miko Peled doesn't know what he is talking about? You are a bad boy and God will get you for that.