Liberals offically lift gag on scientists

Retired_Can_Soldier

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Harper hated scientists ,because scientists represented reality , a reality that conflicted with Harper's bubble of his own made up illusions. Also what scientists believed conflicted with the imperialist ideology.

It's really amazing how gullible people are when you spoon feed them a bunch of nonsense.

Tell me something, are you 11 years old, because that is how you sound?

Oh yes, Harper hated scientists and he was racist and wanted to make abortion illegal and..
 

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It's really amazing how gullible people are when you spoon feed them a bunch of nonsense.

Tell me something, are you 11 years old, because that is how you sound?

Oh yes, Harper hated scientists and he was racist and wanted to make abortion illegal and..


Scientists generally conflicted with Harper's ideology anyways.
 

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Scientists generally conflicted with Harper's ideology anyways.

Really? Do you care to back any of this up with some facts? I'm not talking abut what some numbskull said he heard on another numbskull's blog. I mean real facts. You know, something that is based in truth and has a scientific basis?
 

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I thought it was common knowledge. Harper destroyed funding to science research.
 

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Apparently, these are all articles fueled by special interest groups. I said facts, not innuendo. Facts, you know scientific facts with actual data to back it up. Not whiny environmentalists groups.

And libraries too.

Here;s proof.
"I look at it as an insidious plan to discourage people from using libraries," said Dr. Rudi Mueller, who left the department in 2012.
"If you want to justify closing a library, you make access difficult and then you say it is hardly used."
The feds also made cuts to the military, so they must hate the military too.
 

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I'm seeing a lot of whining about the Alberta "tar sands" in these "articles". Whining being the keyword. You have seen the new research released in the last little while showing that the Alberta "tar sands" is no where near as dirty as many have been saying, right?
 

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I'm seeing a lot of whining about the Alberta "tar sands" in these "articles". Whining being the keyword. You have seen the new research released in the last little while showing that the Alberta "tar sands" is no where near as dirty as many have been saying, right?

Oh Gerry, you are just a shill for Harper.
 

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Apparently, these are all articles fueled by special interest groups. I said facts, not innuendo. Facts, you know scientific facts with actual data to back it up. Not whiny environmentalists groups.

And libraries too.


you want "scientific facts", with "actual data" to back up Harper's blatant disregard for scientific opinion, and cutting of the budgets of all sciences?

 

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you should probably stop posting all together and go masturbate to your corporate owners.
 

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you want "scientific facts", with "actual data" to back up Harper's blatant disregard for scientific opinion, and cutting of the budgets of all sciences?


Boy, you are as dumb as a bag of hammers.

You might want to check out some of my posts on the Conservative Party's view on marijuana.

It is about the only thing I support Trudeau on.

Nice attempt at deflection. Didn't work, you still look as silly as ever, but I'll give you points for trying.
 

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You don't support his opinion on marijuana, that's good - because no sane person would. What's your point again?
 

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Intellectual property:
a work or invention that is the result of creativity, such as a manuscript or a design, to which one has rights and for which one may apply for a patent, copyright, trademark, etc.
I have an intellectual property clause in my present contract.

The company I work for, owns everything I think up.
 

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A fisheries scientist says she believes senior officials close to the prime minister prevented her from talking to the media about her research into the 2009 sockeye salmon collapse in B.C.

The federal government did not dispute Miller's suggestion that it was the Privy Council Office, which serves the prime minister, that refused to allow Miller to talk to media.

DFO scientist says Privy Council silenced her - British Columbia - CBC News




A federal edict that prevented government scientists from talking publicly about their work turned them into "second-class citizens", a B.C. based molecular geneticist told CBC news Friday.

Kristi Miller, a scientist with Fisheries and Oceans Canada, told CBC News Friday that she was excited at news the newly elected federal government had lifted the muzzle from its researchers.

"We [are now] free to speak to the press without contacting media relations," she said. "And in fact we are encouraged to get back to them quickly."

It's a far cry from 2011, when Miller was shocked to find herself prevented from discussing her research into the 2009 Fraser River sockeye salmon collapse following its publication in Science magazine.

"I was told at the time that the problem with the study was that it was talking about dying salmon, and that wasn't a positive news story," Miller said.

She eventually discovered that the decision to stop her talking came from the top — directly from the prime minister's office. She was only allowed to talk publicly about her work in response to questions while testifying at the Cohen Commission Inquiry.

"That whole decision really backfired on the government, and I was really surprised they never reversed it. I think that my paper, for good or for bad, got more press because I wasn't allowed to speak. I don't believe I have ever been interviewed about that paper."

She says the oppressive regime led to many scientists quitting.

"I think that there has been a general exodus — and I was one of the people who thought about leaving."

The news that they are now able to speak freely about their work has, Miller says, lifted the spirits of everyone at Fisheries and Oceans..

"When we were banned, it almost made government scientists second-class citizens in the scientific arena," she said. "It was quite embarrassing. I really felt like a second-class citizen."


Kristi Miller, muzzled fisheries scientist, felt like a second-class citizen - British Columbia - CBC News