Canada's Federal Election 2015: The Official Thread

Machjo

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While I agree with you C-51 was probably the final nail in Harper's coffin it would appear nobody remembers the Libs supported him on it.

That's what happens when you vote against a party (anything but..., strategic voting, etc.) rather than for something.

You essentially just re-elect a different pile of the same.
 

mentalfloss

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Cannuck

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If the Conservative Party collapses, I could see a few parties trying to fill the vacuum. Among the possibilities:

1. More conservative-leaning independents fill the void next election.

2. The Progressive Canadian Party attracts all the old Progressive Conservative Party supporters.

3. Some conservatives join the Green Party, resulting in the blue Greens outnumbering the red Greens and so pull the party somewhat more towards conservatism.

4. I could see some more libertarian-leaning conservatives joining the Libertarian Party, with blue libertarians outnumbering red libertarians and so pull the Libertarian Party towards conservatism somewhat.

5. Some liberal-conservatives could join the Liberal Party's blue Liberals and so pull that party towards conservative liberalism.

6. Some might join the Christian Heritage Party.

7. Regional paleoconservative parties are formed, such as an Ontario Party or Alberta Party, etc. which would them form alliances with one another after an election.

8. The Conservative Party moves more towards classical liberal-conservatism.

9. Any combination of the above.

The Conservatives just need to rid themselves of the social conservative nutters in the party and people will come back. Fiscal conservatives are generally popular. Harper was their problem and they were just too facking stupid to understand it.
 

mentalfloss

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The Conservatives just need to rid themselves of the social conservative nutters in the party and people will come back. Fiscal conservatives are generally popular. Harper was their problem and they were just too facking stupid to understand it.

The Conservatives are in big trouble unless they become progressive.

It doesn't matter how well they can perform on the economy.
 

Machjo

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The Conservatives just need to rid themselves of the social conservative nutters in the party and people will come back. Fiscal conservatives are generally popular. Harper was their problem and they were just too facking stupid to understand it.
Good luck kicking the colonialist crowd out of that party. They're entrenched.
 

Machjo

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I would love to see the Libertarian Party fill the Conservative vacuum.

My concern would be that the moment the Libertarian Party gains major status all the Conservative knuckle staggers would swarm to it too, ruining the whole plan just when the Libertarian Party would be about to win a majority.
 

Walter

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The Conservatives just need to rid themselves of the social conservative nutters in the party and people will come back. Fiscal conservatives are generally popular. Harper was their problem and they were just too facking stupid to understand it.
Love it when lefties tell Cons how to do things.
 

IdRatherBeSkiing

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If the Conservative Party collapses, I could see a few parties trying to fill the vacuum. Among the possibilities:

1. More conservative-leaning independents fill the void next election.

2. The Progressive Canadian Party attracts all the old Progressive Conservative Party supporters.

3. Some conservatives join the Green Party, resulting in the blue Greens outnumbering the red Greens and so pull the party somewhat more towards conservatism.

4. I could see some more libertarian-leaning conservatives joining the Libertarian Party, with blue libertarians outnumbering red libertarians and so pull the Libertarian Party towards conservatism somewhat.

5. Some liberal-conservatives could join the Liberal Party's blue Liberals and so pull that party towards conservative liberalism.

6. Some might join the Christian Heritage Party.

7. Regional paleoconservative parties are formed, such as an Ontario Party or Alberta Party, etc. which would them form alliances with one another after an election.

8. The Conservative Party moves more towards classical liberal-conservatism.

9. Any combination of the above.

Or we just have another election and the new Conservative leader beats Justine on his poor record. And it will be. And then the cycle will repeat.