Is it moral for God to punish us?

French Patriot

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Poor attention to morality fences.
Puts some big weights where the red flags are and it might turn a small generator or alternator. Most would be quite happy if bearings was all that had to be replaced



I know bearings and they would not be a problem but the moment you put a load on the shaft, like driving a generator, the perpetual motion would be eliminated.


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DL

So morality is subjective to whatever culture you belong to. Not sure but there might be some sense inside me that would make me feel that cutting someone's head off and wearing it in my belt might not be the right thing to do.



True but you did not grow up in a culture that did. If you had, you likely would think it right to do.


Do you realize how hard it is to be the black sheep of your group and go against the beliefs of your peers.


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DL
 

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This would be one example......

A mother and father whipped their 19-year-old son in church with an electrical cord and what appeared to be a belt during a deadly, all-night spiritual counselling session triggered by his desire to leave the fold, according to witness testimony and police Friday.

Church deacon Daniel Irwin testified he peered through a doorway window in the sanctuary during the more than 12-hour ordeal at the Word of Life Christian Church and saw Lucas Leonard bleeding and in apparent agony.

Within hours, the young man would be dead, killed by blows inflicted by his parents, sister and fellow church members, authorities said. His mother told police the grThere are thousands of small, independent Christian churches around the country, many of them following a very strict fundamentalist theology, said David Bromley, a religion professor at Virginia Commonwealth University. Their beliefs can lead to strong resistance when a member wishes to leave, he said.

"If you get into a very conservative group where there is only one way and God's wrath is about to be unleashed on humanity and we're the faithful remnant, then leaving the group is a very serious condition, from the point of view of members," Bromley said.oup took turns hitting him and holding him down, state police investigator Jason Nellis testified.

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Is this it?

Joh:12:42:
Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him;
but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him,
lest they should be put out of the synagogue:

Jas:2:9:
But if ye have respect to persons,
ye commit sin,
and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
 

French Patriot

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Is this it?

Joh:12:42:
Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him;
but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him,
lest they should be put out of the synagogue:

Jas:2:9:
But if ye have respect to persons,
ye commit sin,
and are convinced of the law as transgressors.


No. I am speaking of this one that uses language that can be understood clearly as compared to what you put.


Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.


Voltaire


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DL
 

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Lost but never alone is still a lot better than being lost and alone.

This one perhaps?

Lu:16:29:
Abraham saith unto him,
They have Moses and the prophets;
let them hear them.

Eze:37:19:
Say unto them,
Thus saith the Lord GOD;
Behold,
I will take the stick of Joseph,
which is in the hand of Ephraim,
and the tribes of Israel his fellows,
and will put them with him,
even with the stick of Judah,
and make them one stick,
and they shall be one in mine hand.
 

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Mistaken identity, tay. In the biblical record, Christ and the church are on the receiving end of spiritual and physical abuse. See post #12 in the "Apocalypse Means Revelation" thread for details.



Eh. No.


Jesus could have walked away any time but instead decided that suicide was what he wanted to do to give the Jews a hero.


The key to that truth is the word sop that is used in the story of the last supper. It is what Jesus gave Judas and is a conciliatory or propitiatory bribe, gift, or gesture.


Judas, in this myth, was the only one Jesus could trust to not let him down. That is why none of the other apostles said a word or tried to stop Judas.


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DL
 

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Eh. No.


Jesus could have walked away any time but instead decided that suicide was what he wanted to do to give the Jews a hero.


The key to that truth is the word sop that is used in the story of the last supper. It is what Jesus gave Judas and is a conciliatory or propitiatory bribe, gift, or gesture.


Judas, in this myth, was the only one Jesus could trust to not let him down. That is why none of the other apostles said a word or tried to stop Judas.


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DL
I never read that part. Must be, as is most that is said, another commentary.

I have read that only religion can make good people do evil things.


There is a quote out these that says it better.


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DL
I would not agree there. Religion can also at times make indifferent people do good things. You can't blame all the bad things that happen in the world on religion. There are many religious people in the world with hearts of gold, just as there are many non-religious people with hearts of gold. We tend to categorize everyone based upon how they believe. All that does is dehumanize people and place everyone in a box. Not an accurate way to judge people at all. Which is why its' probably not a good idea to judge anyone,,,,at all.
 

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I know bearings and they would not be a problem but the moment you put a load on the shaft, like driving a generator, the perpetual motion would be eliminated.
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DL
Bearings would still wear out eventually.

Do you realize how hard it is to be the black sheep of your group and go against the beliefs of your peers.

Regards
DL
I do. Being raised RCC is a beetch when you have a mind with which to actually think. I came right out in mass one time and said that nothing makes any sense. People kept telling me to shut up and sit down. I am pretty sure they all thought I was possessed. But then after I got married, I met a priest that hubby was friends with and he decided I was not possessed. lol The church exed me anyways and I told them it was fine because I had become agnostic anyways. Mum was mortified and really torqued. She shook her finger at me for a long time afterwards and told me that I was going to hell. lol

The falling chain design would turn something if the longer chain was 500lbs heavier.

Clean doesn't help if it is happy hour on a Friday.
Are you implying that I am a drunk?
 

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This would be one example......

A mother and father whipped their 19-year-old son in church with an electrical cord and what appeared to be a belt during a deadly, all-night spiritual counselling session triggered by his desire to leave the fold, according to witness testimony and police Friday.

Church deacon Daniel Irwin testified he peered through a doorway window in the sanctuary during the more than 12-hour ordeal at the Word of Life Christian Church and saw Lucas Leonard bleeding and in apparent agony.

Within hours, the young man would be dead, killed by blows inflicted by his parents, sister and fellow church members, authorities said. His mother told police the grThere are thousands of small, independent Christian churches around the country, many of them following a very strict fundamentalist theology, said David Bromley, a religion professor at Virginia Commonwealth University. Their beliefs can lead to strong resistance when a member wishes to leave, he said.

"If you get into a very conservative group where there is only one way and God's wrath is about to be unleashed on humanity and we're the faithful remnant, then leaving the group is a very serious condition, from the point of view of members," Bromley said.oup took turns hitting him and holding him down, state police investigator Jason Nellis testified.

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Victim of fatal church beating had wanted to leave the fold: police | CTV News
Fundies, zealots, etc. Freaking criminally insane.

I have read that only religion can make good people do evil things.

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DL
Greed and politics can do the same.
 

AnnaG

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I think my bearings are wearing out, along with the seals and rings.
hehe It is part of being human. The idea is to enjoy what is left that still works properly. =)

Horniness used to do it for me.
What atrocities did you do while being this sort of toad? Do we need to string you upside down over a fire? Cover you with honey and tie you to an ant hill? Other fun stuff like that? hehe