A vision of Britain outside the EU - confident, successful and free

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Welcome to Britain in 2020, a confident, successful, free and wealthy nation that is thriving now it is out of the EU....

A vision of Britain outside the EU - confident, successful and free


Released from our Eurochains, pessimism withers and the economy grows as we become great again


Outside the EU, Britain would forge a distinctive foreign policy, allied to Europe, but giving due weight to the US, India and other Anglophone democracies. Photo: ALAMY




By Daniel Hannan, Conservative MEP for South East England
02 Jun 2015
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It’s 2020, and the UK is flourishing outside of the EU. The rump Union, now a united bloc, continues its genteel decline, but Britain has become the most successful and competitive knowledge-based economy in the region. Our universities attract the world’s brightest students. We lead the way in software, biotech, law, finance and the audio-visual sector. We have forged a distinctive foreign policy, allied to Europe, but giving due weight to the US, India and other common-law, Anglophone democracies.

More intangibly but no less significantly, we have recovered our self-belief. As Nicolas Sarkozy, President of the European Federation, crossly put it: “Britain has become Hong Kong to Europe’s China.”

Part of our success rests on bilateral free-trade agreements with the rest of the world. The EU has to weigh the interests of Italian textile manufacturers, French filmmakers, Polish farmers. Even Germany likes to defend its analogue-era giants against American internet challengers such as Google, Amazon, Facebook and Uber.

Once outside the Common External Tariff, the UK swiftly signed a slew of free-trade agreements, including with the US, India and Australia. Our policy is like Switzerland’s: we match EU trade negotiators when convenient, but go further when Brussels is reluctant to liberalise, as with China. Following Switzerland, we forged overseas relationships while remaining full members of the EU’s common market – covered by free movement of goods, services and capital.

Non-EU trade matters more than ever. Since 2010, every region in the world has experienced significant economic growth – except Europe. The prosperity of distant continents has spilled over into Britain. Our Atlantic ports, above all Glasgow and Liverpool, which were on the wrong side of the country when the EU’s customs duties were imposed in the Seventies, are entering a second golden age.

London, too, is booming. Eurocrats never had much sympathy for financial services. As their regulations took effect – a financial transactions tax, a ban on short-selling, restrictions on clearing, a bonus cap, windfall levies, micro-regulation of funds – waves of young financiers brought their talents from Frankfurt, Paris and Milan to the City.

Other EU regulations, often little known, had caused enormous damage. The Reach Directive, limiting chemical products, imposed huge costs on manufacturers. The bans on vitamin supplements and herbal remedies had closed down many health shops. London’s art market had been brutalised by EU rules on VAT and retrospective taxation. All these sectors have revived. So have older industries. Our farmers, freed from the CAP, are world-beating. Our fisheries are once again a great renewable resource. Disapplying the EU’s rules on data management made Hoxton the global capital for software design. Scrapping EU rules on clinical trials allowed Britain to recover its place as a world leader in medical research.

Universities no longer waste their time on Kafkaesque EU grant applications. Now, they compete on quality, attracting talent from every continent and charging accordingly.

Immigration is keenly debated. Every year, Parliament votes on how many permits to make available for students, medical workers and refugees. Every would-be migrant can compete on an equal basis: the rules that privileged Europeans over Commonwealth citizens, often with family links to Britain, were dropped immediately after independence.


A shale gas exploration well at Barton Moss, near Manchester, in 2013


Britain has been able to tap into its huge reserves of shale gas and oil, which came on tap, almost providentially, just as North Sea gas was running out. At the same time, the free-trade deal with China has led to the import of cheap solar panels, which the EU had banned. They are now so integrated into buildings and vehicles that we barely notice them. Cheaper energy means lower production costs, more competitive exports and a boom all round.

Unsurprisingly, several other European states opted for a similar deal. Some (Norway, Switzerland) came from the old European Free Trade Association; others (Sweden, Denmark) from the EU; yet others (Turkey, Georgia) from further afield. The United Kingdom leads a 21-state bloc that forms a common market with the EU 25, but remains outside their political structures. The EU 25, meanwhile, have pushed ahead with full integration, including a European army and police force and harmonised taxes, prompting Ireland and the Netherlands to announce referendums on whether to follow Britain.

Britain's capital is the world's greatest city


Best of all, we have cast off the pessimism that infected us during our EU years, the sense that we were too small to make a difference. As we left, we shook our heads, looked about, and realised that we were the fifth largest economy on Earth, the fourth military power, a leading member of the G8, a permanent seat-holder on the UN Security Council, and home to the world’s greatest city and most widely spoken language. We knew that we had plenty more to give.


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The EU has failed, most castrophically in the Euro Zone.. but emanating out from there. I expect it will start to break apart, beginning with the fiasco that Euro has become.. especially for weaker members that have lost the benefits of a sovereign currency and find themselves plunged into austerity and economic dissolution by the stronger members. It is corrupt and corroded, and founded on the false doctrines of Free Markets and Monetarism.
 

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The EU has failed, most castrophically in the Euro Zone.. but emanating out from there. I expect it will start to break apart, beginning with the fiasco that Euro has become.. especially for weaker members that have lost the benefits of a sovereign currency and find themselves plunged into austerity and economic dissolution by the stronger members. It is corrupt and corroded, and founded on the false doctrines of Free Markets and Monetarism.


A Brexit and a Grexit will spell the EU's death knell.
 

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With there being no gap between the poor and the wealthy things should work out as well as the last has for you.


Queen speaks on broken system, while wearing diamond crown
Queen speaks on broken system, while wearing diamond crown

We all know the Queen wears a diamond crown during the Queen's Speech. She's been wearing it in every Queen's Speech she's done - and this year's was her 64th.

Some people are slow to cotton on.
 

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A Brexit and a Grexit will spell the EU's death knell

Greece's best option is to default on its loans and exit the Euro Zone and EU. It's creditors are targetting what they wanted since Greece's entry on false pretenses by both sides.

They want its public property, land, resources.. and they want to push Greece into the status of Maquilladora Free Trade Zone.. with vicious austerity and looting of bank accounts and pension plans.

Greece is under no obligation to respect treaties that were based on criminal fraud and extortion.
 
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We all know the Queen wears a diamond crown during the Queen's Speech. She's been wearing it in every Queen's Speech she's done - and this year's was her 64th.

Some people are slow to cotton on.
You missed the part where she was saying the UK isn't doing very well. (unlike what your thread title suggests)
 

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Greece's best option is to default on its loans and exit the Euro Zone and EU. It's creditors are targetting what they wanted since Greece's entry on false pretenses by both sides.

They want its public property, land, resources.. and they want to push Greece into the status of Maquilladora Free Trade Zone.. with vicious austerity and looting of bank accounts and pension plans.

Greece is under no obligation to respect treaties that were based on criminal fraud and extortion.


I agree. Greece is one of a few countries that should never have been allowed in the EU.

You missed the part where she was saying the UK isn't doing very well. (unlike what your thread title suggests)


Britain's economy is performing better than any other major Western economy.
 

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Eurosceptics have long suspected that when, or if, we get a referendum on whether or not Britain should stay in the EU there will be dirty tricks by the europhiles.

Those dirty tricks have already begun even before the referendum campaign itself has begun and before we even even know the date of the referendum, and they are led by David Cameron himself.

As evidence mounts that Cameron and his allies have decided there will be a Yes vote to stay in the EU, I smell a cynical stitch-up, writes STEPHEN GLOVER


By Stephen Glover for the Daily Mail
9 June 2015


David Cameron's instinct is to insist that ministers back whatever settlement he manages to negotiate with the EU


A mere four weeks have passed since the election, and already the Tories are at one another’s throats in a way that will dismay their supporters and delight their opponents.

Europe is, of course, the cause of dissension. It nearly always is in the Tory Party, or at any rate has been on and off over the past 25 years. After a period of relative quiescence, old wounds are being opened up again in the most dramatic fashion.

The pity of it is that the in-fighting is utterly unnecessary. Whether or not Britain remains a member of the European Union is bound to be a contentious issue inside the Conservative Party, as in the country, but there is no cause for fisticuffs before negotiations have even started. That they should have already begun is in large measure the fault of the Government – and of the newly victorious David Cameron.

Eurosceptics have good reason to believe that they are on the receiving end of a Great Stitch-Up. Evidence is mounting almost by the day that the Prime Minister and his allies have decided in advance there will be a ‘Yes’ vote to stay in the EU in the referendum, which could take place as early as next May.

The most sensational development came on Sunday when Mr Cameron appeared to tell journalists covering the G7 Summit in Germany that ministers will have to back him in the referendum – or leave the Government.

Downing Street has subsequently rowed back, presumably because his reported remarks provoked such a ferocious response from Tory MPs. It has declared that what he said has been ‘wrongly interpreted’, even though on Sunday evening it appeared perfectly content with reporters’ interpretations.

We are now told that loyalty from ministers is being demanded only during the renegotiation process. But why would anyone think of leaving government in protest while this is going on, and before the upshot is clear? It doesn’t make sense.

No, I’m afraid David Cameron disclosed his true hand. His instinct, and almost certainly his intention, is to insist that ministers back whatever settlement he manages to negotiate. Such an outcome would be intolerably autocratic, illiberal and divisive. Moreover, it amounts to a potentially disastrously negative approach to negotiations.


Mr Cameron (pictured with Angela Merkel) appeared to tell journalists covering the G7 Summit in Germany that ministers will have to back him in the EU referendum


For consider first the probable response of Angela Merkel and other European leaders. In essence Mr Cameron is saying, even if he has half eaten his words, that he will do his utmost to impose on the Tory Party whatever deal he reaches with the EU.

In other words, he is not keeping open the possibility of rejecting the rather meagre terms which seem likely to be thrashed out. In order to get the best agreement for Britain, he should be saying to our partners that a quarter of a moth-eaten loaf will not be enough for him and ministerial colleagues to make a positive recommendation to the electorate. Instead, he is hinting that he will bludgeon them into accepting whatever is on offer.


Eurosceptic Tory MP David Davis said the debate on Britain's membership of the EU had been turned into a 'bitter argument'


Tory Eurosceptics can be forgiven for resenting such strong-arm tactics. No sensible person likes to be instructed to accept a deal that hasn’t yet been negotiated. Mr Cameron’s remarks in Germany – disowned but not, in fact, withdrawn – will only serve to revive old divisions. As the senior Eurosceptic Tory MP David Davis put it yesterday, the effect has been to turn ‘a decent debate into a bitter argument’.

Instead of trying to whip colleagues into line, the Prime Minister should do what his predecessor, Harold Wilson, did in 1975, when the first, and so far only, British referendum on the EU was held, though in those days it was still called the Common Market.

MPs of all parties were allowed to follow their consciences, and campaign to stay in or leave. In the ‘No’ camp there were such unlikely bedfellows as the Right-wing MP Enoch Powell, and Left-wing Labour MPs Michael Foot and Tony Benn. Margaret Thatcher, leader of the Opposition and later a Eurosceptic, found herself in the ‘Yes’ camp with Mr Wilson.

If we are to have an informed and free debate, Mr Cameron must not put the lid on those Cabinet ministers, thought to number at least five, who would be prepared for Britain to leave the EU if the right agreement were not achieved.

Alas, there are other clues that the Great Stitch-up is under way. In the 28 days before the Scottish Referendum and the 2011 referendum on the voting system, the Whitehall machine was put into purdah.

But the EU Referendum Bill, which will come before MPs today, allows central and local government, as well as the European Commission, to churn out pro-EU messages right up to the eve of the referendum. This device, which will potentially boost the ‘Yes’ cause, has alarmed the Electoral Commission, responsible for overseeing free and fair elections.


Prime Minister Harold Wilson allowed MPs to vote with their conscience in the referendum on Europe in 1975


Another piece of evidence that the outcome is being rigged is the proposal that campaign spending limits be raised by 40 per cent. This is thought likely to help the ‘Yes’ camp which stands to benefit from larger donations, especially from big business and the trade unions, than are likely to be available to the ‘No’ side.

Admittedly Eurosceptics have problems of their own. In particular, they do not yet have a convincing leader of national stature. But it would be outrageous for Mr Cameron to create impediments for Eurosceptics not of their own making. The consequence, unless he relents, will be more prolonged internecine warfare amongst Conservatives.

If the battle is not honestly fought, and if the Eurosceptics feel they have been deliberately deprived of an even playing field, the recriminations and divisions will tear apart the Tory Party for years to come.

This is the most crucial choice this country will face for at least a generation, in which there will be good and decent people fighting on both sides. I haven’t entirely given up hoping David Cameron may still win some real concessions. Whatever happens, though, his reputation rests on him ensuring that the fight is fair.

 

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Brexit looks more likely after dramatic narrowing in EU referendum poll

Support for Britain remaining in the European Union falls by 16 points in latest Ipsos Mori poll



Britain's potential exit from the European Union looked increasingly likely today as a new poll dramatically cut the "stay" campaign's lead by 16 points.

In June 2015 support for Britain remaining in the EU had reached its highest point since 2000 with 61 per cent of people backing the country's membership compared to just 27 per cent favouring an exit.

But that lead in the Ipsos Mori poll was slashed by 16 points in the pollster's latest survey released today.

Now 45 per cent favour Britain staying while 38 per cent back the country's withdrawal from the 28-member bloc.

Two polls from YouGov have recently suggested that the "leave" campaign may be slightly ahead.

One survey released earlier this week revealed that 40 per cent of Britons want to leave the European Union – compared to 38 per cent who want to remain.

The poll found that 16 per cent of people had yet to make up their minds.

In the previous YouGov poll some 41 per cent favoured an exit compared to 38 per cent wishing to stay.

It follows a difficult summer in Europe with the ongoing Mediterranean migrant crisis and months of talks with Greece on financial bail-outs.



Brexit looks more likely after dramatic narrowing in EU referendum poll - Telegraph
 

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The EU has failed, most castrophically in the Euro Zone.. but emanating out from there. I expect it will start to break apart, beginning with the fiasco that Euro has become.
What does that make the Canadian dollar, considering how much stronger the euro is?

"Toilet paper" springs to mind.
 

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Photo that shows why the EU will never work: PATRICK MARNHAM on how protests by Air France staff reveal radical differences between French and British politics

By Patrick Marnham For The Daily Mail
7 October 2015
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To cries of ‘A poil! A poil!’ (Strip them! Strip them!) a mob of Air France staff protesting job losses near Charles de Gaulle airport, outside Paris, ripped off the jackets and shredded the shirts of two airline executives this week.

One man was forced to scramble over a metal fence, topless but for his tie, to escape his attackers.

It is hard to imagine such a scene in Britain. There have been ugly political outbursts here, too, in recent days, with clusters of anarchists hurling eggs and spittle at delegates at the Conservative Party conference — but that’s a far cry from the kind of violent protest that’s the norm across the Channel.


Mob rule: Air France director Xavier Broseta was stripped of his shirt by protesters


Pierre Plissonnier, the head of Air France in Orly, and Xavier Broseta, an assistant human resources director for the airline, were lucky to escape from the mob relatively unscathed after they sat down for what they thought would be unremarkable discussions about forthcoming redundancies.

What happened next goes to the heart of radical differences between the French and British approaches to politics. It throws a stark light on the fundamental differences in national behaviour and attitudes, which cause so many tensions within the EU.

The European dream of ever-closer political and economic reform is, after all, based on member states being prepared to conform, and where necessary, reform.

All too often, France and its people seem prepared to do neither. We all know that while Germany diligently pumped billions into the great European project, the Greeks wouldn’t pay their taxes, and the governments of Spain and Italy spent far beyond their means.

But there is something about the sheer bloody-mindedness of the French national psyche that makes it so hard for more law-abiding nations like Britain to work closely with them.

Take the scandalous events at Air France, whose finances have been precarious for decades.

The company has been pleading with pilots to work extended hours, but that contravenes one of the sacred rules of French society — the 35-hour working week. Any move to do away with that is defied with fury.


Lucky to escape: Pierre Plissonnier, the head of Air France in Orly


Unable to reach a compromise, the airline warned that nearly 3,000 jobs were at risk, including 300 cockpit crew and 900 flight attendants, with the probable loss of 14 aeroplanes.

These cuts were open to renegotiation, if only the workers’ council was prepared to be reasonable. In response, protesters stormed the meeting room on Monday and tore off the executives’ clothes.

Plissonnier and Broseta got off lightly by Gallic standards: elsewhere, French unionists have been using tactics that could be regarded as terrorism in Britain.

Consider the members of a tiny French ferry union, led by Eric Vercoutre, who set fire to the entrance of the Channel Tunnel this summer, as well as the motorway leading up to it, creating 30-mile lorry queues on both sides of the Channel. Their punishment?

Nothing.

Worse, two executives at a tyre factory in Amiens were held hostage overnight last year by union members demanding better redundancy payoffs. Negotiations over job losses had been dragging on for months when the company owner — Texan tycoon Maurice Taylor — lost patience and withdrew a rescue offer on the grounds that the workers were plain lazy.

What followed was increasingly common in French industrial relations: boss-napping.

The directors, Michel Dheilly and Bernard Glesser, were held captive for a night: the kidnappers released a video showing them seated at the negotiating table, stony-faced under a barrage of shouts and taunts. One of them was threatened with a bedpan.

In the UK, the perpetrators would face long prison sentences and a wave of public revulsion.

In France, such a tactic is technically illegal, carrying a punishment of five years in jail and a £55,000 fine, but the penalty is rarely, if ever, imposed.

The fact is that many Frenchmen regard such intimidation as part of the game.

Historically, the French are all only one step away from joining la rue — the mob on the street.

They pride themselves on flouting authority and rules, and rising up en masse is in the national DNA.

It’s an attitude that is all too often reflected in the actions of the French state itself, which loves creating rules but enjoys sticking to them rather less.


Desperate: Mr Broseta was forced to scramble over a metal fence, topless but for his tie, to escape

It has repeatedly failed to cut its budget deficit to the level mandated by Brussels, yet nonetheless sees itself as the co-driver, with Germany, of the European Union.

No matter, it seems, that French politicians are often caught dishing out irregular subsidies.

In the past year alone, France has been rapped by the EU for giving an €889 million tax exemption to the largely state-owned electricity giant EDF, attacked by the European Court of Justice for failing to recover €220 million in ‘illegal’ state aid paid to a ferry operator, and put under investigation for allegedly paying illegal subsidies to other electricity suppliers to help prevent blackouts.

As for Air France, as long ago as 1994 the airline was saved from potential collapse by a massive 20 billion franc state aid package that was later ruled illegal by the European Court of Justice.

In Britain, which is far more compliant to Brussels’ dictats, the workers are also by nature more docile.

But then, Mrs Thatcher’s titanic struggles with the miners and the printers in the Eighties saw the unions’ power and stomach for a fight hugely reduced.


To cries of ‘A poil! A poil!’ (Strip them! Strip them!) a mob of Air France staff protesting job losses near Charles de Gaulle airport ripped off the jackets and shredded the shirts of two airline executives this week

That is a process that has never happened across the Channel. The result is that the French will protest — with violence if necessary — at the drop of a hat.

Significantly, their great national holiday commemorates the storming of the Bastille.

Every year, too, the insurrectionists who died during the Commune uprising of 1871, where the mob overthrew the government, are celebrated as martyrs.

The whole French approach is that if you don’t get what you want, you must take to the barricades and shout about it — and if you don’t shout loudly enough, that’s your fault.

This is why French farmers have such a tradition of extravagant protest.

Last month, for instance, Breton farmers brought central Paris to a halt by driving their tractors into the city and blocking the Champs-Elysees. The government had offered €600 million in July to invest in agriculture. The 1,500 tractor drivers demanded €3 billion.

They were angry, and they broke the law to make their point. In France, that’s how it is done.

Most people see it as an inconvenience, but also as a safety valve. Time and again, faced with the power of mob protest, French politicians back down.

After the tractor invasion, prime minister Manuel Valls caved in and pledged €3 billion euros for farmers over the next three years.

British attempts to copy these bullyboy tactics never work.

Fifteen years ago, incensed at high fuel costs, UK lorry drivers protested by driving in slow convoys on motorways. They were imitating a highly successful French protest, known as the ‘escargot’, or snail.

Within a few days, brisk action by British police had dispersed them.

Unlike the French, they just weren’t born to it — further proof that we are separated by much more than 22 miles of water.

We are more pragmatic and decidedly less idealistic than the French, but we also have a stronger commitment to the rule of law as the basis of our essential freedoms.

The French experience is that all too often their freedoms flow from defying the rules.

Which is why the idea of ‘ever-closer union’ in a happy EU brotherhood of nations is so ludicrous.
 
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