Blue Lives Matter!! Cop dies where's the outrage??

Corduroy

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kill a few blacks, the younger and more innocent the better, any other ethnic group will do in a pinch....

That is the implication.

Why do people respond to "Black lives matter" with "All lives matter" or in this case "Blue live matter"? It's probably because they don't understand what "Black lives matter" means or why it exists, and they don't seem to care about figuring it out either. Why could that be? They're taking sides. They see this as a liberal cause, they see this as not their race, and so fall in the other camp. It's liberal vs. conservative, cops against blacks and it's all conflated into a horrible hodgepodge in which, I'd say, they unwittingly encourage the dehumanization and institutionalized impoverishment and murder of black people.

That's giving them the biggest benefit of the doubt. I find that I give some people around here way too much credit. It could just be that they're racists.
 

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That is the implication.

Why do people respond to "Black lives matter" with "All lives matter" or in this case "Blue live matter"? It's probably because they don't understand what "Black lives matter" means or why it exists, and they don't seem to care about figuring it out either. Why could that be? They're taking sides. They see this as a liberal cause, they see this as not their race, and so fall in the other camp. It's liberal vs. conservative, cops against blacks and it's all conflated into a horrible hodgepodge in which, I'd say, they unwittingly encourage the dehumanization and institutionalized impoverishment and murder of black people.

That's giving them the biggest benefit of the doubt. I find that I give some people around here way too much credit. It could just be that they're racists.

Well, according to petros, the fact that cops have abused whites too means there is no racism.
 

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Well, according to petros, the fact that cops have abused whites too means there is no racism.

Usually Petros posts like he's writing clues for this week's cryptic crossword. When he posts clearly he really means it. I think if you look at the evolution of those two posts, he was very clear in the first post and then got a little goofy in the second. I'd bet he's doubting himself.
 

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Usually Petros posts like he's writing clues for this week's cryptic crossword. When he posts clearly he really means it. I think if you look at the evolution of those two posts, he was very clear in the first post and then got a little goofy in the second. No I ain't no highfalutin big city psychoanalyst here, but I'd bet he's doubting himself.
Petros? Not likely.
 

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That is the implication.

Why do people respond to "Black lives matter" with "All lives matter" or in this case "Blue live matter"? It's probably because they don't understand what "Black lives matter" means or why it exists, and they don't seem to care about figuring it out either. Why could that be? They're taking sides. They see this as a liberal cause, they see this as not their race, and so fall in the other camp. It's liberal vs. conservative, cops against blacks and it's all conflated into a horrible hodgepodge in which, I'd say, they unwittingly encourage the dehumanization and institutionalized impoverishment and murder of black people.

That's giving them the biggest benefit of the doubt. I find that I give some people around here way too much credit. It could just be that they're racists.
I think a lot of people are just anti-poverty-people...they see them as lazy, takers...it doesn't matter how they got that way or what society did to them...they suck "our" money away. They are kids, tots, with snotty noses, and bad behaviour living in bad environments but yet they survive and turn into adults...the kids are tossed aside and then as adults they don't understand the middle class ways. What older people don't get is that there was a lot of poverty when they grew up, and yes they made it, but it was a different world back then.

It's just sad at the amount of self embraced ignorance and my tolerance for it is becoming less and less.
 

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I think a lot of people are just anti-poverty-people...they see them as lazy, takers...it doesn't matter how they got that way or what society did to them...they suck "our" money away. They are kids, tots, with snotty noses, and bad behaviour living in bad environments but yet they survive and turn into adults...the kids are tossed aside and then as adults they don't understand the middle class ways. What older people don't get is that there was a lot of poverty when they grew up, and yes they made it, but it was a different world back then.

It's just sad at the amount of self embraced ignorance and my tolerance for it is becoming less and less.
I think they call it tunnel vision.:).
 

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I think a lot of people are just anti-poverty-people...they see them as lazy, takers...it doesn't matter how they got that way or what society did to them...they suck "our" money away. They are kids, tots, with snotty noses, and bad behaviour living in bad environments but yet they survive and turn into adults...the kids are tossed aside and then as adults they don't understand the middle class ways. What older people don't get is that there was a lot of poverty when they grew up, and yes they made it, but it was a different world back then.

It's just sad at the amount of self embraced ignorance and my tolerance for it is becoming less and less.

That's a good point about the reasons why these people might hate the poor, but this issue can't just be reduced to that. I don't think they'd react any different if the police were murdering middle class or upper class black people.
 

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I think they call it tunnel vision.:).
yes I would say that is true

That's a good point about the reasons why these people might hate the poor, but this issue can't just be reduced to that. I don't think they'd react any different if the police were murdering middle class or upper class black people.
unfortunately I think fear prevents many people from emoting. IF they can just separate themselves from that then they think they are golden. They think insulation will protect them from ever experiencing that loss of control that could lead to being powerless in a crucial life situation brought on often times through no fault ... so if you can assign blame, that won't be them.

Truth be told, life is a crap shoot.

In the end, we are all reduced to the same level of humanity...we die and nothing will prevent that.
 

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I think a lot of people are just anti-poverty-people...they see them as lazy, takers...it doesn't matter how they got that way or what society did to them...they suck "our" money away. They are kids, tots, with snotty noses, and bad behaviour living in bad environments but yet they survive and turn into adults...the kids are tossed aside and then as adults they don't understand the middle class ways. What older people don't get is that there was a lot of poverty when they grew up, and yes they made it, but it was a different world back then.

It's just sad at the amount of self embraced ignorance and my tolerance for it is becoming less and less.

Yes, I mentioned this before. A large part of the problems of American blacks springs from the fact that they are disproportionately represented among the poor. But that doesn't negate the fact that a part of the problems spring from the fact that they're black.
 

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Yes, I mentioned this before. A large part of the problems of American blacks springs from the fact that they are disproportionately represented among the poor. But that doesn't negate the fact that a part of the problems spring from the fact that they're black.
American blacks are certainly disproportionately represented amongst the poor. And America is not yet colour blind. NOT colour blind. NOT!!!

Here in Canada, it's not so much a black problem as a poverty problem and I GET that at a certain point, adults make a 'choice'...I get that...but when one has never known love, when one has never had a mentor there is NOTHING to strive for other than what is "known". How can one strive for better and know how to get there if no one has ever bothered to acknowledge you as a person, "like" you as a kid, stretch out their hand and say; "let me show you".

EVERYONE who came from nothing or just a bad circumstance and has made it had a mentor and f*ck those that have forgotten that or can't remember or through their own fear, fail to acknowledge that. No one makes it without love. NO ONE.

Somewhere along the way someone loved them in some small way enough that the spark was ignited.

As adults that is one of our callings on this planet. If we as human beings do one single thing in our life to love a child or another human being enough that they make it we have made the world a better place. If we do not, we have failed.

And my patience with those who belittle that or do not get it is wearing thin. They add nothing to this world and we could easily dispense with their greed and self righteous attitude.
 

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By your standards, I fail. I give, but I can't honestly say I love.

I find that unsettling.
how do you fail by these standards? by these standards anyone can "win"

it's only about love...in the end, it's all we have, in the end, it's not who is there for us, but who we have been there for... a single client of yours may well change their life just from an interaction from you, that is love.

you raised your siblings...that is love
 

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Surprised people are defending thugs, druggies and criminals.. well maybe not, thugs, druggies and criminals generally defend their own kind.

If you're going to live the life of crime, then take personal responsibility for your actions when you get caught.
 

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Surprised people are defending thugs, druggies and criminals.. well maybe not, thugs, druggies and criminals generally defend their own kind.

If you're going to live the life of crime, then take personal responsibility for your actions when you get caught.
that is such a lame post Boomster

hang on, I have to go do some drugs be a thug and commit a few crimes. :roll:
 

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Really? Do you defend a Cop over the Criminal?? Law vs Anarchy. Okay.
what you just said makes zero sense...try to comprehend what people are actually saying instead of playing the emotional masturbation /jerk off game.

it's not about cop vs. criminal...it's about right vs. wrong.... and that happens on both sides and if you think putting on a blue suit, strapping on a gun, and learning to salute makes a person right, you need to rethink the words moral, justice, love, right, wrong, alive, dead, black, white, educated, uneducated, poor, squalor, privileged etc, etc, etc.

if you blindly defend the blue, you are as corrupt as a criminal...ain't no difference between your philosophy and that of a thugs.
 

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if you blindly defend the blue, you are as corrupt as a criminal...ain't no difference between your philosophy and that of a thugs.

I don't blindly defend the blue, I defend the LAW!!

Police are just law enforcement, they are not the LAW!!

If an officer does something corrupt or illegal, he should go through the court system and face the LAW!!

However, to tarnish the thousands of officers because of a few bad apples vs career criminals, who let's face it, to have an encounter with the officer, was probably doing something illegal to begin with.

Do you even know a police officer??