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Hold on now......
Considering who you claim I am are you sure that is the right way to start this downfall of yours? (like you would even have a good foot to put forward)




did you not just tell Dexter, or confirm, that you take the whole Bible as "THE" word of God?

The authority to 'speak for God' was earned by Christ at the cross, Jesus in a glorified body is the very image of Christ in the form of an angel, He can appear in any form they have been know to manifest in. Saul was the living example of how easy it is for Him to gather even the hardest sinner. The OT reference is His 'resume' that allows Him to judge the living as to which door they enter in that God meets both but one group is more preferred than the other.

M'r:9:7:
And there was a cloud that overshadowed them:
and a voice came out of the cloud,
saying,
This is my beloved Son:
hear him.

Proverb:8:22-27:
The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way,
before his works of old.
I was set up from everlasting,
from the beginning,
or ever the earth was.
When there were no depths,
I was brought forth;
when there were no fountains abounding with water.
Before the mountains were settled,
before the hills was I brought forth:
While as yet he had not made the earth,
nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
When he prepared the heavens,
I was there:
when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:

Proverb:8:32-36:
Now therefore hearken unto me,
O ye children:
for blessed are they that keep my ways.
Hear instruction,
and be wise,
and refuse it not.
Blessed is the man that heareth me,
watching daily at my gates,
waiting at the posts of my doors.
For whoso findeth me findeth life,
and shall obtain favour of the LORD.
But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul:
all they that hate me love death.

Ge:1:1:
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Ge:1:3:
And God said,
Let there be light:
and there was light.

John the Babtist was the last Prophet to be called by the same God that was in Ge:1 and 3. Moses was the first of seed of the people that would see the completion of the 'bruise to the heel'. His words are below and it is a description of who he was speaking for as far as whose message he brought. The time of John and Jesus add up to the requirement that fulfill that one part in full. That would be about 12 posts, you aren't ready for that, . . . yet. Jesus became the 'WORD' when he took over preaching from John. Any writer that cames after the cross is taking dictation from Him as His letters to the Churches are what will be used as the standard on who will live and who will die on the day of the lord.

Joh:1:1-4:
In the beginning was the Word,
and the Word was with God,
and the Word was God.
The same was in the beginning with God.
All things were made by him;
and without him was not any thing made that was made.
In him was life;
and the life was the light of men.

God, the Holy Spirit and Christ all come a level that is higher than that of the angels, they come from the new heaven that the angels will inherit.

2Co:12:2:
I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago,
(whether in the body,
I cannot tell;
or whether out of the body,
I cannot tell:
God knoweth;)
such an one caught up to the third heaven.

Heb:12:22-23:
But ye are come unto mount Sion,
and unto the city of the living God,
the heavenly Jerusalem,
and to an innumerable company of angels,
To the general assembly and church of the firstborn,
which are written in heaven,
and to God the Judge of all,
and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

1Jo:5:7:
For there are three that bear record in heaven,
the Father,
the Word,
and the Holy Ghost:
and these three are one.

1Jo:1:1:
That which was from the beginning,
which we have heard,
which we have seen with our eyes,
which we have looked upon,
and our hands have handled,
of the Word of life;

Joh:1:34-39:
And I saw,
and bare record that this is the Son of God.
Again the next day after John stood, and two of his disciples;
And looking upon Jesus as he walked,
he saith,
Behold the Lamb of God!
And the two disciples heard him speak,
and they followed Jesus.
Then Jesus turned,
and saw them following,
and saith unto them,
What seek ye?
They said unto him,
Rabbi,
(which is to say,
being interpreted,
Master,)
where dwellest thou?
He saith unto them,
Come and see.
They came and saw where he dwelt,
and abode with him that day:
for it was about the tenth hour.

Joh:21:24-25:
This is the disciple which testifieth of these things,
and wrote these things:
and we know that his testimony is true.
And there are also many other things which Jesus did,
the which,
if they should be written every one,
I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written.
Amen.

That you are a "literalist".
That is the label you get when you use lateral time rather than rotary time in looking at the week it too for creation to start and end in 4,000BC. Day 1 began 40BYA and ended 4BTA When we look at a month with 4 weeks in it your motion left/right rather than forward or back. It will only take about 6 long posts to show that 21st century methods used on ancient artifacts shows things not seen before.
Like the bones in the catacombs show fractures that re mended to a degree that is not yet possible at any clinic in the world. Not one bone, every single one in the place as a living memorial to God and the signs following that were the 'mark of the men that truly spoke God's WORD'. Get 'bones' to check it out while he' over there.

Are you now saying that there are things in the Bible that should NOT be taken as "THE" word or to be practised literally?
Do whatever you want. it's on your head. I don't have one twinge of guilt to disassemble the Bible into a 'summation that is the beginning and end of this earth in 6 easy to read chapters, Ge:1-3 and Re:20-22. The rest of the book is all about one single verse, Ge:3:15.

Christ signs off as He is the author introduced in Re:1, Scripture goes back to Ge:1:1.

Re:1:1-13:
The Revelation of Jesus Christ,
which God gave unto him,
to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass;
and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
Who bare record of the word of God,
and of the testimony of Jesus Christ,
and of all things that he saw.
Blessed is he that readeth,
and they that hear the words of this prophecy,
and keep those things which are written therein:
for the time is at hand.

Re:22:13-21:
I am Alpha and Omega,
the beginning and the end,
the first and the last.
Blessed are they that do his commandments,
that they may have right to the tree of life,
and may enter in through the gates into the city.
For without are dogs,
and sorcerers,
and *****mongers,
and murderers,
and idolaters,
and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches.
I am the root and the offspring of David,
and the bright and morning star.
And the Spirit and the bride say,
Come.
And let him that heareth say,
Come.
And let him that is athirst come.
And whosoever will,
let him take the water of life freely.
For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book,
If any man shall add unto these things,
God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy,
God shall take away his part out of the book of life,
and out of the holy city,
and from the things which are written in this book.
He which testifieth these things saith,
Surely I come quickly.
Amen.
Even so,
come,
Lord Jesus.
The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all.
Amen.

"I and the Father are one." (John 10:30 NIV)

"But what about you, (Gerry)?" he asked. "Who do you say I am?" (Matthew 16:15; Mark 8:29; Luke 9:20 NIV)
Record my answer.

M't:19:16-19:
And, behold,
one came and said unto him,
Good Master,
what good thing shall I do,
that I may have eternal life?
And he said unto him,
Why callest thou me good?
there is none good but one,
that is,
God:
but if thou wilt enter into life,
keep the commandments.
He saith unto him,
Which?
Jesus said,
Thou shalt do no murder,
Thou shalt not commit adultery,
Thou shalt not steal,
Thou shalt not bear false witness,
Honour thy father and thy mother:
and,
Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

rofl, very telling that you will answer that question, but not my previous questions.
That still puts her at '1' and you at '0'. Loser is what 2nd is in a 2 person contest is.
 

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lots of words, and no answer. It's very simple. Should everything the Bible says be taken as the literal word of God. Is everything in the Bible THE word of God. Is there anything in the Bible that is NOT the word of God and why?

That still puts her at '1' and you at '0'. Loser is what 2nd is in a 2 person contest is.




No, what she is doing is putting herself in the same category as you. A hypocrite, a misleader.
 

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The Holy Spirit "claims"? You don't believe that to be fact? I know it to be fact. What I don't believe is that the entire Bible is an inspiration from God through the Holy Spirit. I don't question the Holy Spirit, I question what man "claims" is inspiration from the Holy Spirit.


You still haven't answered my previous question, and your answer to that goes directly to this.
That's rather sad way to compensate God for all His work that could have saved you from going to a place called hell.

1Jo:2:18-29:
Little children,
it is the last time:
and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come,
even now are there many antichrists;
whereby we know that it is the last time.
They went out from us,
but they were not of us;
for if they had been of us,
they would no doubt have continued with us:
but they went out,
that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
But ye have an unction from the Holy One,
and ye know all things.
I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth,
but because ye know it,
and that no lie is of the truth.
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ?
He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
Whosoever denieth the Son,
the same hath not the Father:
(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
Let that therefore abide in you,
which ye have heard from the beginning.
If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you,
ye also shall continue in the Son,
and in the Father.
And this is the promise that he hath promised us,
even eternal life.
These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.
But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you,
and ye need not that any man teach you:
but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things,
and is truth,
and is no lie,
and even as it hath taught you,
ye shall abide in him.
And now,
little children,
abide in him;
that,
when he shall appear,
we may have confidence,
and not be ashamed before him at his coming.
If ye know that he is righteous,
ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.

Isa:28:9-19:
Whom shall he teach knowledge?
and whom shall he make to understand doctrine?
them that are weaned from the milk,
and drawn from the breasts.
For precept must be upon precept,
precept upon precept;
line upon line,
line upon line;
here a little,
and there a little:
For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.
To whom he said,
This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest;
and this is the refreshing:
yet they would not hear.
But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept,
precept upon precept;
line upon line,
line upon line;
here a little,
and there a little;
that they might go,
and fall backward,
and be broken,
and snared,
and taken.
Wherefore hear the word of the LORD,
ye scornful men,
that rule this people which is in Jerusalem.
Because ye have said,
We have made a covenant with death,
and with hell are we at agreement;
when the overflowing scourge shall pass through,
it shall not come unto us:
for we have made lies our refuge,
and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:
Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD,
Behold,
I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone,
a tried stone,
a precious corner stone,
a sure foundation:
he that believeth shall not make haste.
Judgment also will I lay to the line,
and righteousness to the plummet:
and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies,
and the waters shall overflow the hiding place.
And your covenant with death shall be disannulled,
and your agreement with hell shall not stand;
when the overflowing scourge shall pass through,
then ye shall be trodden down by it.
From the time that it goeth forth it shall take you:
for morning by morning shall it pass over,
by day and by night:
and it shall be a vexation only to understand the report.

If any of the above in confusing you then you have the Pharaoh complex that God used back in the time of Moses.
 

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No, what she is doing is putting herself in the same category as you. A hypocrite, a misleader.

2Th:1:4-12:
So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure:
Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God,
that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God,
for which ye also suffer:
Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you;
And to you who are troubled rest with us,
when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God,
and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord,
and from the glory of his power;
When he shall come to be glorified in his saints,
and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.
Wherefore also we pray always for you,
that our God would count you worthy of this calling,
and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness,
and the work of faith with power:
That the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you,
and ye in him,
according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Joh:16:32-33:
Behold,
the hour cometh,
yea,
is now come,
that ye shall be scattered,
every man to his own,
and shall leave me alone:
and yet I am not alone,
because the Father is with me.
These things I have spoken unto you,
that in me ye might have peace.
In the world ye shall have tribulation:
but be of good cheer;

I have overcome the world.

De:4:27-31:
And the LORD shall scatter you among the nations,
and ye shall be left few in number among the heathen,
whither the LORD shall lead you.
And there ye shall serve gods,
the work of men's hands,
wood and stone,
which neither see,
nor hear,
nor eat,
nor smell.
But if from thence thou shalt seek the LORD thy God,
thou shalt find him,
if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul.
When thou art in tribulation,
and all these things are come upon thee,
even in the latter days,
if thou turn to the LORD thy God,
and shalt be obedient unto his voice;

(For the LORD thy God is a merciful God;)
he will not forsake thee,
neither destroy thee,
nor forget the covenant of thy fathers which he sware unto them.
 

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In formal debate, form is judged along with content. Presentation is weighed along with position on a matter.

"If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." (1 Corinthians 13:2 NIV)

How important to Christ is attitude/conduct towards others relative to Bible knowledge/understanding?
according to your quote, it is everything

according to the way Christ lived and preached it is everything

according to my life experience it is everything

therefore without love, we have and are nothing
 

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Jas:2:15-17:
If a brother or sister be naked,
and destitute of daily food,
And one of you say unto them,
Depart in peace,
be ye warmed and filled;
notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body;
what doth it profit?
Even so faith, if it hath not works,
is dead,
being alone.

blah blah blah blah,....... answer the questions concisely.
If any of the above in confusing you then you have the Pharaoh complex that God used back in the time of Moses. You are headed for hell.
 

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Jas:2:15-17:
If a brother or sister be naked,
and destitute of daily food,
And one of you say unto them,
Depart in peace,
be ye warmed and filled;
notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body;
what doth it profit?
Even so faith, if it hath not works,
is dead,
being alone.
agreed
 

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If any of the above in confusing you then you have the Pharaoh complex that God used back in the time of Moses. You are headed for hell.




It doesn't confuse me at all. What I want YOU to do is answer the questions in your own words.
 

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Do you always get what you want? I'm guessing not and this wouldn't be marking the #1 time that has happened.
A reply to your standards is impossible, you have no standards to begin with.
 

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You haven't answered any of my questions, can't see a reason why I should answer yours.
 

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Are you counting your 1 vote as being the whole of the votes? Good little Christian should go to their favorite passages automatically.
Want my most 10 favorite? It starts off with the 70 weeks and how they fit into the bruise to the heel prophecy. Might as well give you a mark to get you started.
 
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Are counting your 1 vote as being the whole of the votes. Good little Christian should go for to favorite passages. Want my most 10 favorite. It starts off with the 70 weeks and how they fit into the bruise to the heel prophecy. Might as well give you a mark to get you started.

Hey MHz- Have you ever considered typing in English? :)