Saudi's starts flogging man 1,000 times for insulting Islam on Facebook
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As in your above comments (Well, I suppose signing an on-line petition is technically an action.
But, just a notion. If vous etes Charlie, maybe y'all should look at your own hate-speech laws.
Free speech begins at home.), I am again not able to follow what your issue is regarding the fact that this guy is being flogged for attempted Free Speech in a Theocratic Country.
You will have to expand why you are in favour of this (are you a Muslim?) and why you feel I am a, as you call it, a lefty for not wanting to see someone tortured for something I can do without fear of reprisal, never mind being flogged.
Your comments directed at me, instead of the tragedy this thread is based on is indeed perplexing...........
Today's planned flogging of Raif Badawi was postponed for medical reasons.
The postponement of flogging based on medical grounds exposes the shocking brutality of this kind of punishment.
According to Amnesty International, which has adopted Badawi as a prisoner of conscience, he was removed from his cell on Friday morning and taken to the prison clinic for a health check. The doctor concluded that the wounds from last week’s flogging had not yet healed properly and Badawi would be unable to withstand more. He recommended that the flogging be postponed until next week.
Said Boumedouha, Amnesty International’s deputy director for the Middle East and North Africa, said: “Not only does this postponement on health grounds expose the utter brutality of this punishment, it underlines its outrageous inhumanity.
“The notion that Raif Badawi must be allowed to heal so that he can suffer this cruel punishment again and again is macabre and outrageous. Flogging should not be carried out under any circumstances.”
The postponement follows widespread international pressure from governments and human rights groups for the Saudi government to halt the punishment. On Thursday, the UN commissioner for human rights appealed to the Saudi king to intervene.
“Flogging is, in my view, at the very least, a form of cruel and inhuman punishment,” said Zeid Ra’ad Al Hussein, who is a member of the Jordanian royal family.
“Such punishment is prohibited under international human rights law, in particular the convention against torture, which Saudi Arabia has ratified. I appeal to the king of Saudi Arabia to exercise his power to halt the public flogging by pardoning Mr Badawi, and to urgently review this type of extraordinarily harsh penalty.”
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My issue is that free speech is free speech, and from where I sit, laws limiting free speech are all the same regardless of whether the motivation is to please Big Daddy in the Sky or to please Poor Downtrodden Suffering Minorities and whether the punishment is flogging, fines, or jail.
You got me. Allahu Akbar.
Just inviting you to deplore criminalisation of speech everywhere, not just in Scary Muzzie Land.
The you don't follow my posts.
Or maybe you do because you called me a 'lefty' as a small minority of others do.
I won't pre judge and assume that if one is not a lefty that they then are in favour or this type of penalty for free speech.
I asked if you were a Muslim because of your bellicose response to my posting of the Raif affair and subsequent plea from Amnesty Intl. It appears you are in favour of such brutality.
Your response is indeed not one of a defender of Human Rights and may I say, not in keeping with the stereotypical adult who enjoys My Little Pony............
Canada’s Office of Religious Freedom Minister Declines to Appear on CTV's Question Period with Alex Neve of Amnesty Intl
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It is good to see the religion of peace and the civilized world demonstrating what
they are about. We hear how they are peaceful and tolerant and enlightened Ya
OK I think I have heard enough
they are about. We hear how they are peaceful and tolerant and enlightened Ya
OK I think I have heard enough
Ensaf Haidar, now a refugee living in Quebec, joined an all-party coalition of MPs on Parliament Hill on Thursday urging Prime Minister Stephen Harper to intervene personally with the Saudis.
They want the prime minister to push for the release of Badawi, who is set to receive 50 more lashes on Friday.
It is part of Badawi's ongoing punishment of 1,000 lashes, a 10-year prison sentence and heavy fines for criticizing Saudi clerics on a blog he founded.
The 32-year-old father of three was lashed 50 times on Jan. 9, but his second scheduled beating was postponed last week for medical reasons.
"Raif's health condition is getting worse and worse," Haidar said through a translator during a press conference on Parliament Hill.
She said that was the conclusion of several doctors who examined her husband in the last week.
Liberal MP Irwin Cotler, a long-time human rights advocate, said Saudi Arabia must live up to its international obligations as signatory to the United Nations convention banning torture.
He said Saudi leaders have stated their support for the free speech rights of the Paris newspaper, Charlie Hebdo, which was attacked by terrorists angry at its depictions of the Prophet Muhammad.
"The same principles, the same obligations apply with regard to Raif Badawi," said Cotler.
Amnesty International says it has signatures of 150,000 Canadians on a petition asking for Badawi's release.
"The human rights concerns here are so compelling," said Alex Neve, Amnesty's Canadian secretary general.
Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird, Development Minister Christian Paradis and Andrew Bennett, Canada's ambassador for religious freedom, have all issued statements condemning Badawi's sentence.
Baird brought the matter up last week in Davos, Switzerland with Prince Turki Al Faisal, a member of the ruling House of Saud.
The prince is scheduled to visit Ottawa in mid-February.
NDP human rights critic Wayne Marston said that although no one should lose focus on getting Badawi released, western governments should continue to press Saudi Arabia to improve its human rights record.
"As far as changing the laws of Saudi Arabia, that will be up to the people of Saudi Arabia to do," he said.
"But our role would be to remind them of the value human rights, the value of free speech, and the importance of having both."
Raif Badawi's wife seeks Stephen Harper's help for jailed Saudi blogger - Politics - CBC News
They want the prime minister to push for the release of Badawi, who is set to receive 50 more lashes on Friday.
It is part of Badawi's ongoing punishment of 1,000 lashes, a 10-year prison sentence and heavy fines for criticizing Saudi clerics on a blog he founded.
The 32-year-old father of three was lashed 50 times on Jan. 9, but his second scheduled beating was postponed last week for medical reasons.
"Raif's health condition is getting worse and worse," Haidar said through a translator during a press conference on Parliament Hill.
She said that was the conclusion of several doctors who examined her husband in the last week.
Liberal MP Irwin Cotler, a long-time human rights advocate, said Saudi Arabia must live up to its international obligations as signatory to the United Nations convention banning torture.
He said Saudi leaders have stated their support for the free speech rights of the Paris newspaper, Charlie Hebdo, which was attacked by terrorists angry at its depictions of the Prophet Muhammad.
"The same principles, the same obligations apply with regard to Raif Badawi," said Cotler.
Amnesty International says it has signatures of 150,000 Canadians on a petition asking for Badawi's release.
"The human rights concerns here are so compelling," said Alex Neve, Amnesty's Canadian secretary general.
Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird, Development Minister Christian Paradis and Andrew Bennett, Canada's ambassador for religious freedom, have all issued statements condemning Badawi's sentence.
Baird brought the matter up last week in Davos, Switzerland with Prince Turki Al Faisal, a member of the ruling House of Saud.
The prince is scheduled to visit Ottawa in mid-February.
NDP human rights critic Wayne Marston said that although no one should lose focus on getting Badawi released, western governments should continue to press Saudi Arabia to improve its human rights record.
"As far as changing the laws of Saudi Arabia, that will be up to the people of Saudi Arabia to do," he said.
"But our role would be to remind them of the value human rights, the value of free speech, and the importance of having both."
Raif Badawi's wife seeks Stephen Harper's help for jailed Saudi blogger - Politics - CBC News
I don't recall you ever mentioning that you don't molest children. Interesting....
Saudi Arabia postpones flogging of Raef Badawi for third week
Raef Badawi’s wife, Ensaf Haidar, added that the reason why he was not flogged was unclear.
The 30-year-old received the first 50 lashes of his sentence outside a mosque in the Red Sea city of Jeddah on 9 January.
The next round of the punishment was postponed for two weeks on medical grounds.
Badawi’s case has prompted worldwide outrage and criticism from the UN, US, the EU and others.
Ensaf Haidar, whose husband Raif Badawi is a Saudi rights activist who was sentenced to 1,000 lashes for criticising the kingdom’s clerics in his blog, thanks the Canadian people and international organisations for their help and support for her husband. “Raef’s health condition is bad and it’s getting worse. I am very concerned about him,” she said. “It is impossible for a human being to withstand 50 lashes every week.”
Badawi co-founded the now-banned Saudi Liberal Network along with women’s rights campaigner Souad al-Shammari, who was also accused of insulting Islam and arrested last October.
The charges against Badawi were brought after his group criticised clerics and the kingdom’s notorious religious police, who have been accused of a heavy-handed enforcement of sharia law.
Amnesty said on Thursday that Badawi could suffer “debilitating long-term physical and mental damage” from continued flogging, which violates international law.
“Raef Badawi is a prisoner of conscience, whose only ‘crime’ was to set up a website for public discussion,” said Philip Luther, Amnesty’s Middle East and North Africa director.
Saudi Arabia postpones flogging of Raef Badawi for third week | World news | The Guardian
Raef Badawi’s wife, Ensaf Haidar, added that the reason why he was not flogged was unclear.
The 30-year-old received the first 50 lashes of his sentence outside a mosque in the Red Sea city of Jeddah on 9 January.
The next round of the punishment was postponed for two weeks on medical grounds.
Badawi’s case has prompted worldwide outrage and criticism from the UN, US, the EU and others.
Ensaf Haidar, whose husband Raif Badawi is a Saudi rights activist who was sentenced to 1,000 lashes for criticising the kingdom’s clerics in his blog, thanks the Canadian people and international organisations for their help and support for her husband. “Raef’s health condition is bad and it’s getting worse. I am very concerned about him,” she said. “It is impossible for a human being to withstand 50 lashes every week.”
Badawi co-founded the now-banned Saudi Liberal Network along with women’s rights campaigner Souad al-Shammari, who was also accused of insulting Islam and arrested last October.
The charges against Badawi were brought after his group criticised clerics and the kingdom’s notorious religious police, who have been accused of a heavy-handed enforcement of sharia law.
Amnesty said on Thursday that Badawi could suffer “debilitating long-term physical and mental damage” from continued flogging, which violates international law.
“Raef Badawi is a prisoner of conscience, whose only ‘crime’ was to set up a website for public discussion,” said Philip Luther, Amnesty’s Middle East and North Africa director.
Saudi Arabia postpones flogging of Raef Badawi for third week | World news | The Guardian
A woman who co-founded the Saudi Liberal Network internet discussion group with blogging activist Raef Badawi has been freed after about three months in prison, her daughter says.
Souad al-Shammari had spent around 90 days at a women’s prison in the Red Sea city of Jeddah, her daughter Sarah al-Rimaly said.
She added that her mother was released three days ago after signing a pledge ‘to reduce her activities’.
She was arrested in late October for insulting Islam, activists said at the time.
Shammari had posted comments on Twitter about Islamic religious leaders.
Saudi Arabia’s new King Salman late on Thursday issued an amnesty for some prisoners, but Rimaly said her mother’s release was unconnected to this.
Rimaly added that she does not think the amnesty will cover Badawi, who is serving a 10-year jail sentence for insulting Islam.
He was also ordered to receive 1,000 lashes, a punishment which has drawn worldwide outrage and been dismissed as ‘cruel and inhuman’ by UN human rights chief Zeid Ra’ad Al Hussein.
Badawi received the first 50 lashes of his sentence publicly in Jeddah on January 9.
Subsequent rounds of flogging were postponed for the following two weeks on medical grounds.
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Souad al-Shammari had spent around 90 days at a women’s prison in the Red Sea city of Jeddah, her daughter Sarah al-Rimaly said.
She added that her mother was released three days ago after signing a pledge ‘to reduce her activities’.
She was arrested in late October for insulting Islam, activists said at the time.
Shammari had posted comments on Twitter about Islamic religious leaders.
Saudi Arabia’s new King Salman late on Thursday issued an amnesty for some prisoners, but Rimaly said her mother’s release was unconnected to this.
Rimaly added that she does not think the amnesty will cover Badawi, who is serving a 10-year jail sentence for insulting Islam.
He was also ordered to receive 1,000 lashes, a punishment which has drawn worldwide outrage and been dismissed as ‘cruel and inhuman’ by UN human rights chief Zeid Ra’ad Al Hussein.
Badawi received the first 50 lashes of his sentence publicly in Jeddah on January 9.
Subsequent rounds of flogging were postponed for the following two weeks on medical grounds.
World News – Echonetdaily#
