How about them Canucks!

[talloola]

canucks came out tonight and gave the game away before the middle of the first period. rangers certainly
didn't expect that kind of game. they immediately became very excited, very confident, and had a lot
of fun, they didn't have to worry about scoring, played sound defense, lunquist did make some very good
saves, and until the last period, new york just made sure they stayed out of trouble defensively, and
of course that also makes it twice as hard for canucks to score, as rangers just checked very close,
and didn't allow any canuck to carry the puck anywhere.

nothing that happened tonight was millers fault, sure he could have been a super hero and made a couple
of saves on those first 3 goals, never on the first one, and the other two were three on ones, and if
you noticed, the rest of the canucks were left way down the ice.

desjardin was livid, (well, as livid as he can look, lol). burrows had a great game, mathias had a good
game, so did hanson, defensemen weren't horrible, but the 'team' defense was poor, the forwards just
didn't transition properly at all, got left behind over and over.

if you remember the first gAme of canucks road trip, was in columbus, cAnucks beAt them 5-0, then by
the end of the road trip, they were all done.

they don't play now till wednesday

 

[bill barilko]

canucks came out tonight and gave the game away before the middle of the first period

That's when I came in halfway through the first and it was already all over-not at all impressed-for the amount of money those guys are paid they should have been better prepared mentally.

 

[#juan]

I watched till it was 3 - 0. I didn't think it was getting any better so Jan and I watched a movie instead. I don't think the Canucks have looked that bad for some time. Some players didn't look too bad but generally, the Canucks, as a team, stunk.

 

[JLM]

I watched till it was 3 - 0. I didn't think it was getting any better so Jan and I watched a movie instead. I don't think the Canucks have looked that bad for some time. Some players didn't look too bad but generally, the Canucks, as a team, stunk.

I beat you, I perservered until the end of the 2nd period (5:0) - the wife had something she deemed more important for her to watch so I kindly relented

 

[#juan]

I hate to be the first to say this but under Willy Dejardine(sp), the Canucks have steadily gotten worse. Can anyone say different?

 

[JLM]

I hate to be the first to say this but under Willy Dejardine(sp), the Canucks have steadily gotten worse. Can anyone say different?

You're jumping the gun there #Juan, at the start of the 7 game road trip they were first in the entire league, they've had a bad spell for 4 games and with reason. Players were tuckered late in the road trip and the first game back is always a crap shoot.

 

[Kreskin]

Willie's strategy is pressure. Pinch pinch and more pinch. I think what we're seeing is the rest of the league catching on to what the Canucks have been doing and are well planned to counter it. WD also has them passing a lot of pucks through danger zones, ie back into the slot in front of their own net. Some nights these sort of things are going to haunt them. The Canucks have to make some adjustments, just like their opponents have.

 

[#juan]

You're jumping the gun there #Juan, at the start of the 7 game road trip they were first in the entire league, they've had a bad spell for 4 games and with reason. Players were tuckered late in the road trip and the first game back is always a crap shoot.

In the first few weeks of any season the lead changes hands a dozen times; A team wins three games in a row and they are in first place. Lose three games and they are back in tenth. That last game against New York kind of showed us where our team defense was in the first period.

 

[talloola]

In the first few weeks of any season the lead changes hands a dozen times; A team wins three games in a row and they are in first place. Lose three games and they are back in tenth. That last game against New York kind of showed us where our team defense was in the first period.

with the exception of anaheim who hAve pulled ahead a bit, standings are very close, hAven't chAnged, i
predicted as much when the season started, teams are all very close, canucks, under coach desjardin have
done very well, he put a good structure into the team. all teams go thru a down period at some point,
and after 7 games on the road, it is understandable for any team to struggle a bit. first game after
a road trip often is a bit of a flat start, and they definitely were thAt.

very much over the top to say under desjardin they haven't done well, it is the opposite, they did much
better than anyone expected, have kept pace with the top 8 teams, stayed well within a playoff spot.
for anyone to think that they were going to roll along on top of the conference all season, would be
very nieve, and also shows complete lack of knowledge of the rest of the conference.

i'm only looking at last nights game, and the start to thAt gAme set the tone, that is easy to see, that
left rangers laughing and off the hook for having to score goAls, if canucks had started in a more normal
frame of mind, score probably would have been very close after first period, and then BOTH teams would
have had to work hard to score, not just one.

and anyone who turns it off after first period has no clue about the game, other than one period, i like
to monitor the whole game, not bale out at the first sign of trouble, how wimpy is that.

its called giving up, tells a lot about a person.

 

[JLM]

In the first few weeks of any season the lead changes hands a dozen times; A team wins three games in a row and they are in first place. Lose three games and they are back in tenth. That last game against New York kind of showed us where our team defense was in the first period.

You bet and they pretty well all teams go through it. At the start of the season we thought L.A. and S.J. were among our biggest Nemeses! Where are they now? Canucks know what they have to do to win. I'd bet on one thing, if they play Lack more their stats will improve.

and anyone who turns it off after first period has no clue about the game, other than one period, i like
to monitor the whole game, not bale out at the first sign of trouble, how wimpy is that.

its called giving up, tells a lot about a person.

Wrong, you don't know my wife, when her program comes on, hockey is secondary or "it's Katy bar the door".

 

[talloola]

You bet and they pretty well all teams go through it. At the start of the season we thought L.A. and S.J. were among our biggest Nemeses! Where are they now? Canucks know what they have to do to win. I'd bet on one thing, if they play Lack more their stats will improve.




Wrong, you don't know my wife, when her program comes on, hockey is secondary or "it's Katy bar the door".

are you saying that if lack played last night they would have won thAt game?

if you were an avid hockey person, you would have a backup plan for watching all of the game, youcan
get a second tv very cheap, if you were that interested, i don't think you Are, don't blame your wife. lol

Willie's strategy is pressure. Pinch pinch and more pinch. I think what we're seeing is the rest of the league catching on to what the Canucks have been doing and are well planned to counter it. WD also has them passing a lot of pucks through danger zones, ie back into the slot in front of their own net. Some nights these sort of things are going to haunt them. The Canucks have to make some adjustments, just like their opponents have.

he coaches a very basic style, as he says, the kind of hockey every player wants to play, just have to
add hard work, and responsible defense, from start to finish, and allow the coach to decide lines according to how chemistry is.

i like the four line style, lots of other teams are also doing same, its such a long season, a three line
team just can't manage the schedule, and without the 3rd and 4th lines on this team they would be in big
trouble right now, its the first and second lines that need to get back to work, and do some scoring.

special teams also have to be successful, but without any penalties, that becomes very difficult.

sedins must play well 5 on 5, not just on the power play.

 

[JLM]

are you saying that if lack played last night they would have won thAt game?

if you were an avid hockey person, you would have a backup plan for watching all of the game, youcan
get a second tv very cheap, if you were that interested, i don't think you Are, don't blame your wife. lol



he coaches a very basic style, as he says, the kind of hockey every player wants to play, just have to
add hard work, and responsible defense, from start to finish, and allow the coach to decide lines according to how chemistry is.

i like the four line style, lots of other teams are also doing same, its such a long season, a three line
team just can't manage the schedule, and without the 3rd and 4th lines on this team they would be in big
trouble right now, its the first and second lines that need to get back to work, and do some scoring.

special teams also have to be successful, but without any penalties, that becomes very difficult.

sedins must play well 5 on 5, not just on the power play.

Who knows maybe with Lack it would have started out 1/0 or 2/0.........3/0 is pretty tough to overcome, not to mention the psychological factor. When I can't watch the game on the idiot box I can still follow it fairly closely on the computer.

 

[bill barilko]

From what I've seen the Canucks are the Best passing team in the league not perfect just Very Very Good.

As mentioned seasonal adjustments need be made on an ongoing basis-that's hockey.

Speaking of which twice now I've seen Daniel Sedin just blast the puck when he formerly would have passed-one blast resulted in a huge rebound that ended up in the corner and eventually turned into a goal.

 

[Kreskin]

are you saying that if lack played last night they would have won thAt game?

if you were an avid hockey person, you would have a backup plan for watching all of the game, youcan
get a second tv very cheap, if you were that interested, i don't think you Are, don't blame your wife. lol



he coaches a very basic style, as he says, the kind of hockey every player wants to play, just have to
add hard work, and responsible defense, from start to finish, and allow the coach to decide lines according to how chemistry is.

i like the four line style, lots of other teams are also doing same, its such a long season, a three line
team just can't manage the schedule, and without the 3rd and 4th lines on this team they would be in big
trouble right now, its the first and second lines that need to get back to work, and do some scoring.

special teams also have to be successful, but without any penalties, that becomes very difficult.

sedins must play well 5 on 5, not just on the power play.

Basic, sure, But they don't chip it off the boards, they pass it back through center ice. Great when it works. Ugly when it doesn't. Doesn't matter who is on defense if the puck is given away. Hey I'm not complaining. It's fun hockey to watch. Just that with risk comes reward and failure.

 

[talloola]

Basic, sure, But they don't chip it off the boards, they pass it back through center ice. Great when it works. Ugly when it doesn't. Doesn't matter who is on defense if the puck is given away. Hey I'm not complaining. It's fun hockey to watch. Just that with risk comes reward and failure.

yes, but the chipping it off the board style is usually for teams who have a lot of trouble making that
first pass, now with hamhuis out, that talent can suffer a bit, but they will come around, its amazing to
me how some fans can't tolerate the bad with the good, its not all good. calgary has 4 losses in a row,
And they are having a good season, l.a. are struggling, they will come around, san jose are just starting
to play better, minnesota have struggled, a team full of good players, but can't seem to get it going,
but i expect them to get better.

a player like hamhuis out of the lineup changes the defense big time, there isn't an equal to take his
place, the next in line just have to come in and do their best, looks like he will be out for a while.

its a game, there are highs and lows, that is the nature of the beast.

yeah it is fun to watch, desjarden wants them to play a highly intensive fast moving, fast breakout game,
and that is what everyone begs for when they are watching a team who is very defensive, always chipping
it out, and always chasing and checking, waiting for a chance to get a garbage goal, we watched cAnuck
teams play that style many seasons, and we all complained how boring it was.
that style is safe, no risks at all, low scoring usually, and can be played by any team who's coach is
'afraid', like torterella who played 'not' to lose, but never plAyed hard to 'win'.

 

[JLM]

Edmonton is doing much better than the Canucks against the same team. How can that be?

 

[talloola]

Edmonton is doing much better than the Canucks against the same team. How can that be?

oh brother, what a goof.

 

[JLM]

Methinks Chicago may be starting to get ideas!

 

[bill barilko]

Eakins is finished

The Edmonton Oilers have fired head coach Dallas Eakins, according to multiple reports Monday.

Sportsnet and TSN reported that general manager Craig MacTavish will take over behind the bench on an interim basis.

Edmonton (7-19-5) has the NHL's worst record entering Monday's games. The Oilers, who recently endured an 11-game losing streak, have lost four in a row, 15 of their last 16, and 19 of their last 22.

Eakins's job was thought to be in jeopardy for some time, but MacTavish had placed the blame on the players, saying their "accountability" need to improve during a news conference earlier this month.

Eakins, 47, was in his second season with the Oilers. In 2013-14 the team went 29-44-9 — the third-worst mark in the league.

He's the second NHL head coach to be fired this season. Ottawa dismissed Paul MacLean a week ago.

 

[talloola]

Methinks Chicago may be starting to get ideas!

i watched most of that calgary/chicAgo game, it was very good, chicago is at the top of their game
right now, on a roll, but calgary wasn't being badly outplayed, they had their chances, kept the
score close, they have a nice team this season, things are looking up for them, even though last
night was their 5th loss in a row, doesn't matter, they are just going thru a bit of a lull, but
still playing well, just not winning.

rangers played edmonton on a back to back after playing canucks night before, so they weren't flying like night before, and edmonton played well, but as usual just can't get to the net enough,
don't put enough pressure on the goalie, and aren't physical enough, the talent is definitely there,
but defense is still lacking, and players like burrows type are definitely needed on that team to balance
out, along with better defense.

even though canucks lost to rangers 5-0, they played them better than edmonton, many more shots on goal,
but the beginning of the game was their downfall, and defense wasn't what it should have been.
bieksa struggled along with spisa.

note; just read previous post, guess that has been expected, but no other coach
has had any success with them either, so we'll see how mcTavish does.
can't hurt i guess, maybe he will just be mentally harder on them, to see how
that works.