Justin Trudeau: PM 'hasn't even tried' to make case for expanded Iraq role

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I think what we have is a number of people who would normally go NDP that will take a chance on the Liberals.

Over the last few years it seems that they are trying to distance themselves from 'the right'.

Case in point is the Ontario election, where a lot of people are tired of the hateful, opposition-like style of the Conservatives and that scared them enough to give the Liberals a majority.
 

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... hateful, opposition-like style of the Conservatives...

Oh man, that's some pretty funny stuff.

No no, don't get me wrong, attack ads and opposition-like style are nothing to ignore, unless of course they side you like are the ones doing it, lol.

Oh Flossy, you're a hoot.
 

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All parties have some form of negativity, but conservatives do it so frequently that it has become their existential brand.

They earned the reputation of being the school bully.
 

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All parties have some form of negativity, but conservatives do it so frequently that it has become their existential brand.
You only think that, because you only look for conservative wrong doing.

I only look for NDP and Liberl wrong doing, then come here to see what you dug up, and see what you ignore.

It's fun.
 

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No, I'm pretty sure the reputation for aggressive, mean spirited politics goes to the Conservatives.

People rarely think Liberals are mean and antagonistic.

Maybe the NDP with Mulcair, but I'm sure the average person would see the PCs as the most angry party of the big three.
 

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No, I'm pretty sure the reputation for aggressive, mean spirited politics goes to the Conservatives.
No doubt.

People rarely think Liberals are mean and antagonistic.
Cult followers and good PR.

Maybe the NDP with Mulcair, but I'm sure the average person would see the PCs as the most angry party of the big three.
That's the point of saying a lie over and over again, stupid people will eventually buy, and the Liberals and NDP don't scrimp on good propaganda.

And as you've so amply shown, there's always a sucker willing to buy it.
 

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Typical show boating by the Drama Queen of Politics.
I support the mission, I also support having the Arabs, Sunni, foot the bills and put their own boots on the ground.
Egypt, Saudi and Turkey have more than enough troops and equipment to support this mission.


They don't seem to be doing much which is surprising given the threat is far more immediate to them than to anyone else. Saudi Arabia and Turkey seem to be ok with foreigners using their countries as platforms from which to launch attacks but thats about it. How nice of them. Iraq is probably only in it because they dont have a choice given Isis (or whatever they are calling themselves this week) controls half the country. The people in the region should be playing a much larger role than they currently are, not just sitting back and letting the west take care of the problem yet again.
 

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They don't seem to be doing much which is surprising given the threat is far more immediate to them than to anyone else. Saudi Arabia and Turkey seem to be ok with foreigners using their countries as platforms from which to launch attacks but thats about it. How nice of them. Iraq is probably only in it because they dont have a choice given Isis (or whatever they are calling themselves this week) controls half the country. The people in the region should be playing a much larger role than they currently are, not just sitting back and letting the west take care of the problem yet again.
They actually are fighting back. The problem is, it's military, paramilitary and civilians facing an organized force, with greater man and weapon power.

Anyone that ISIS captures, is killed. In droves.
 

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If he doesn't agree with an expanded role why would he have to propose one?
The headline of this makes no sense really in its own context. It is becoming
clear the opposition has plugged in to the notion Canadians are not in favor of
going to war in Iraq, Afghanistan or Syria maybe but they are not in favor of going
to Iraq. We need to confront madness yes before it confronts us.
I say concentrate of Syria the group there appears to be training young people to
come home and create hell on earth here (an Islamic State) and we have to be
prepared for that situation when it comes and it will if we continue to do nothing.
 

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I'm just waiting for the Iraq scrum, play by play on Sun News.

Super fancy graphics with digital chalk lines and some x's and o's for the most fervent military strategists.
 

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I'm just waiting for the Iraq scrum, play by play on Sun News.

Super fancy graphics with digital chalk lines and some x's and o's for the most fervent military strategists.
You sound Conservative.

All this kerfuffle and they still have cell service to communicate.
Funny you mention that. I was looking through photos the other day, thinking along the same lines. I didn't see any cells. But when you get into the Rueters stuff, the leaders are using satphones.
 

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Anyone that ISIS captures, is killed. In droves.


Which seems to be working. From what Ive seen people have been putting up black flags when they take villages. Better to join than to die in that situation. Even though its a lose lose situation either way.
 

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You have to love the double speak cults use to make sense out of their nonsense.

Which seems to be working. From what Ive seen people have been putting up black flags when they take villages. Better to join than to die in that situation. Even though its a lose lose situation either way.
Yes. It's a sad state of affairs.