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I don't believe that sentiment is expressed at all in the quote that I'm commenting on. So try swallowing that.
I wasn't directing it at you personally, I meant "you" in the generic sense. And the sentiment is expressed, word for word, in the link.
 

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ISIS is going through the Spanish Inquisition phase of their existence like the Catholics of long ago came to the realization that it was a futile endeavor and ISIS will come to the same conclusion that is if they live long enough, the best thing they can do is lay down their weapons and let peace lead them to the true meaning of Allah.
 

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ISIS is going through the Spanish Inquisition phase of their existence like the Catholics of long ago came to the realization that it was a futile endeavor and ISIS will come to the same conclusion that is if they live long enough, the best thing they can do is lay down their weapons and let peace lead them to the true meaning of Allah.

LOL so simplistic yet, ****ing stupid...
 

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ISIS is going through the Spanish Inquisition phase of their existence like the Catholics of long ago came to the realization that it was a futile endeavor and ISIS will come to the same conclusion that is if they live long enough, the best thing they can do is lay down their weapons and let peace lead them to the true meaning of Allah.
It is our responsibility to enforce standards of decency anyplace, anytime in the world that has oil.
 

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ISIS is going through the Spanish Inquisition phase of their existence like the Catholics of long ago came to the realization that it was a futile endeavor and ISIS will come to the same conclusion that is if they live long enough, the best thing they can do is lay down their weapons and let peace lead them to the true meaning of Allah.
And what is the true meaning of Allah?
 

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ISIS is going through the Spanish Inquisition phase of their existence like the Catholics of long ago came to the realization that it was a futile endeavor and ISIS will come to the same conclusion that is if they live long enough, the best thing they can do is lay down their weapons and let peace lead them to the true meaning of Allah.


So, just be patient eh? :roll:
 

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some media is pulling a trayvon (and mike brown):

 

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religion and those afraid of what scrutiny of their religion will show them have managed to convince most of the world that it is wrong to scrutinize their beliefs.

I would think that an almighty being, being almighty would stand up to such scrutiny. Would welcome such scrutiny and pass all scrutiny with flying colours. It would not need mortals to defend it with violence.
 

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religion and those afraid of what scrutiny of their religion will show them have managed to convince most of the world that it is wrong to scrutinize their beliefs.

I would think that an almighty being, being almighty would stand up to such scrutiny. Would welcome such scrutiny and pass all scrutiny with flying colours. It would not need mortals to defend it with violence.



Rationalists used this type of argument against the Inquisition but it fell on deaf ears and often led to persecution. This in defiance of the examples set by Jesus who welcomed inquiries of all kinds from skeptics in his era.
 

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Rationalists used this type of argument against the Inquisition but it fell on deaf ears and often led to persecution. This in defiance of the examples set by Jesus who welcomed inquiries of all kinds from skeptics in his era.
Do you blame all Christianity on the inquisition ?
Was the inquisition a Christian principle or the act of the warped minds of men ?
Did the acts carried out in the name of Christ during the inquisition follow his teachings ?
 

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Do you blame all Christianity on the inquisition ?
Was the inquisition a Christian principle or the act of the warped minds of men ?
Did the acts carried out in the name of Christ during the inquisition follow his teachings ?

Those were Christian zealots. They were acting in the name of Christianity, as defined by their beliefs.

Same sh*t as what is happening with the Islamist Terrorists, they are interpreting the Koran as they see it and acting out their hate based on their beliefs of Islam.

So yes, I blame religion in both cases.. as it's based on an interpretation of their books.
 

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Those were Christian zealots. They were acting in the name of Christianity, as defined by their beliefs.

Same sh*t as what is happening with the Islamist Terrorists, they are interpreting the Koran as they see it and acting out their hate based on their beliefs of Islam.

So yes, I blame religion in both cases.. as it's based on an interpretation of their books.
No it only the Catholic religion that created the inquisition , not all of Christianity .
And then it was one sect of priests that carried out that inquisition .

No it only the Catholic religion that created the inquisition , not all of Christianity .
And then it was one sect of priests that carried out that inquisition .
Where does Christ say it is fine to torture non believers ?
 

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No it only the Catholic religion that created the inquisition , not all of Christianity .
And then it was one sect of priests that carried out that inquisition .

In case you're not aware, the Catholic religion is part of Christianity.

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I just had to point this out.. gets real interesting when members start arguing with themselves.




Where does Christ say it is fine to torture non believers ?
 
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Do you blame all Christianity on the inquisition ?
Was the inquisition a Christian principle or the act of the warped minds of men ?
Did the acts carried out in the name of Christ during the inquisition follow his teachings ?


Three good questions, all well worth a long discussion.


The Inquisition was a result of political and materialistic ambition. It lasted for centuries and was committed by various political entities because it was profitable and promoted political power. No one should blame all of Christianity for it because its principle victims were Christian!


Christian principle it was not. It definitely was the result of warped minds and ambitious hearts. It remains a lasting shame upon the churches which carried it out. What is a greater shame is the failure of the churches to compensate its victims. When Native American and Jewish advocates demanded return of the gold stolen during the imperialistic incursions into Latin America and during the Spanish versions of pogroms they were ignored. The church continues to profit from all this gold even though the Bible teaches thous shall not steal and it forbids profiting from stolen goods and demands compensation:



If a man steals an ox or a sheep, and kills it or sells it, he shall repay five oxen for an ox, and four sheep for a sheep. If a thief is found breaking in and is struck so that he dies, there shall be no bloodguilt for him, but if the sun has risen on him, there shall be bloodguilt for him. He shall surely pay. If he has nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft. If the stolen beast is found alive in his possession, whether it is an ox or a donkey or a sheep, he shall pay double. If a man causes a field or vineyard to be grazed over, or lets his beast loose and it feeds in another man’s field, he shall make restitution from the best in his own field and in his own vineyard. If fire breaks out and catches in thorns so that the stacked grain or the standing grain or the field is consumed, he who started the fire shall make full restitution. If a man gives to his neighbor money or goods to keep safe, and it is stolen from the man’s house, then, if the thief is found, he shall pay double. If the thief is not found, the owner of the house shall come near to God to show whether or not he has put his hand to his neighbor’s property. For every breach of trust, whether it is for an ox, for a donkey, for a sheep, for a cloak, or for any kind of lost thing, of which one says, "This is it," the case of both parties shall come before God. The one whom God condemns shall pay double to his neighbor.



— Exodus 22:1-9



In the New Testament one must compensate FOUR fold: Luke 19:8





None of the atrocious acts committed during the Inquisition reflect Jesus's teachings. He spoke of correcting people with gentleness and compassion, not force:

What Does the Bible Say About Compassion To Others?



Ultimately, those who violated his laws will have to answer for their actions. The majority of Christians and churches do not bear any blame for those actions.