GMO producers should be punished as terrorists, Russian MPs say

petros

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Do you fear soil? If you fear GMO, you have to fear soil equally because the bacterial genes used in GMO are what makes dirt soil.
 

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Do you fear soil? If you fear GMO, you have to fear soil equally because the bacterial genes used in GMO are what makes dirt soil.

How is it that you can't make a convincing post even when you're on the right side of the argument?
 

petros

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Are you high again?

Bacillus thuringiensis (or Bt) is a Gram-positive, soil-dwelling bacterium, commonly used as a biological pesticide. B. thuringiensis also occurs naturally in the gut of caterpillars of various types of moths and butterflies, as well on leaf surfaces, aquatic environments, animal feces, insect rich environments, flour mills and grain storage facilities.

During sporulation, many Bt strains produce crystal proteins (proteinaceous inclusions), called δ-endotoxins, that have Insecticide action. This has led to their use as insecticides, and more recently to genetically modified crops using Bt genes. Many crystal-producing Bt strains, though, do not have insecticidal properties.[3
 

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Like I said, even if you are right, no one would know or care because it's draped in smug anecdotes.
 

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While you all want to debate the crap about certain questionable facts with GMOs I would like to bring forward the proven facts.....

GMOs were originally introduced as a way to feed the starving areas of the world, drought resistant corn for example, yet Monsanto does not have huge farms of corn in Nigeria and Somalia etc. It is hard for anyone with common sense to believe they want to feed the starving when all their farms and development are in places that do not have hunger issues but do have plenty of money for food.

Companies like Monsanto are now applying for and being granted patents on our food supply. This does two things that are very negative. First it allows for price manipulation and second it prevents other people/entities from growing whatever foodstuff we might want or require. The fact that Monsanto instituted policies of not allowing farmers to keep seed for further crops is ridiculous and their policy of now suing neighboring farms that get infected with GMO product through environmental cross-contamination should be a warning that they do not want to feed the world but want to control the world's food supply and most importantly control the pricing.

There may very well be some good things that GMOs can do for our world population but none of this is evident in the approach of Monsanto and it's partners. All their efforts and policies seem to be in line with monopolies and profiteering. I would suggest that any GMO technology be controlled by an international board with view to actually creating a sustainable food supply for the people of our planet and not be held by some mega-corp whose only legal requirement of existence is ROI to shareholders.
 

petros

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Jeepers. What do grain producers think about all this?

I used to think like you but my uncle died and the keys to the combine were handed over and I quickly learned that the majority of GMO claims are malarkey.

GMO have brought record crops in quality and quantity which is indeed feeding Billions people.

Monsanto doesn't sell seed. I buy from local seed growers who offer cultivars that regional landrace strains hybridized with the GMO. From there you buy an herbicide/fertilizer package and sign on to a delivery contract with Viterra Pioneers B&H, Cargill etc.

You can buy, plant and keep GMO seed hut you can't buy the herb/fert package without paying a user fee for the herbicide resistant genes.

It's economic suicide to not use ferts or herbicide. Even organics use pre-emergent herbicides.
 

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When it comes to terrorists GMO proponents or other wise we should only hang
the short ones that is those who are shorter than 8ft tall.
Such statements are crazy they are starting to sound like the extremists from the
Middle East but I suppose its like any other society slowly going mad
 

petros

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The major grain handlers of the globe have sanctioned Russian grain exports. That what this is about and nothing more.

Cargill alone can make or break Russia.
 

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I am right and I'm going to pound reality into you until you bleed out all the childish fantasy.

Whatever petros.

It's time to press the red button so the nurse can bring you your meds.

While you all want to debate the crap about certain questionable facts with GMOs I would like to bring forward the proven facts.....

GMOs were originally introduced as a way to feed the starving areas of the world, drought resistant corn for example, yet Monsanto does not have huge farms of corn in Nigeria and Somalia etc. It is hard for anyone with common sense to believe they want to feed the starving when all their farms and development are in places that do not have hunger issues but do have plenty of money for food.

Companies like Monsanto are now applying for and being granted patents on our food supply. This does two things that are very negative. First it allows for price manipulation and second it prevents other people/entities from growing whatever foodstuff we might want or require. The fact that Monsanto instituted policies of not allowing farmers to keep seed for further crops is ridiculous and their policy of now suing neighboring farms that get infected with GMO product through environmental cross-contamination should be a warning that they do not want to feed the world but want to control the world's food supply and most importantly control the pricing.

There may very well be some good things that GMOs can do for our world population but none of this is evident in the approach of Monsanto and it's partners. All their efforts and policies seem to be in line with monopolies and profiteering. I would suggest that any GMO technology be controlled by an international board with view to actually creating a sustainable food supply for the people of our planet and not be held by some mega-corp whose only legal requirement of existence is ROI to shareholders.

What you are really saying here is that there is nothing wrong with GMOs and everything wrong with the private sector.
 

PoliticalNick

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What you are really saying here is that there is nothing wrong with GMOs and everything wrong with the private sector.

I probably do not know enough of the science in GMO seeds and produce to make a truly informed decision but I do know I am leery of f*cking with mother nature too much so will remain non-supportive until actual proven facts are abundant.

The other point is definitely a private monopoly on some of the most staple foods in existence and that is not good in any way. Nobody, especially a corporation, has any need or right to hold such sway over the global food markets. Their tactics against those who will not bow to their demands are disgraceful enough for me to ban Monsanto entirely in every country on the planet no matter if their product can feed us or not. I find the executives and their plans for domination of crops and produce to be totally undesirable and even almost evil in intent and deed based upon their current record.