Amazing how the adage that "The road to hell is paved with good intentions" appears to have some basis here.
Barack Obama Failed
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Amazing how the adage that "The road to hell is paved with good intentions" appears to have some basis here.
This is really just a lot of big words without all that much meaning.
Love him or hate him, Bush Jr did more than enough by 2008 to ensure that people were ready for a change. The financial crisis certainly didn't help the republicans either.
The election was the Dems' to lose, and Obama won his spot on the Democratic ticket because he is way more charismatic than Hillary.
His reelection certainly was not "hope over experience". Romney has a total of 4 years experience in elected office.
The Republicans never established a clear vision that people could get behind. They attacked on the basis that the economy was bad, but it was easy to see that Obama inherited a very bad situation, and much of the rest of the world was still struggling too. They attacked over The Affordable Care Act, but it made no real sense coming from Romney who implemented practically the same thing as a governor, and they had no good alternative.
He wasn't elected because of some defect of the American people. He was elected because he was the most electable candidate each time.
It is a great idea. Pardoning the GITMO detainees and relocating them in the heart of leftist Amerika in order to wreak havoc seems like a wonderful course of action. Who lives in NYC? Leftists. Off with their heads figuratively speaking.
Obama could have kept his word by pardoning the detainees and releasing them. Most of them are Yemenis. Send them back to Yemen.
There are four schools of thought in the realm of American foreign policy. Realist, Liberal International, Neo-Conervative, and Isolationist. Most of my life I subscribed to the Realist school of thought. Through the process of learning I have evolved into an Isolationist. America should never have invaded Afghanistan. That was foolish. Afghanistan can only be dealt with using Mongol/Chinese techniques.
I will direct your attention to the fact that Obama had no managerial experience of any type when he ran for the presidency in 2008. In 2008 Obama portrayed himself as all things to all people. He promised he would expand the welfare state at the same time he cut the budget deficit in half. Anyone with a brain could tell such a promise was impossible. Anyone with the ability to critically reason could tell that Obama was completely disingenuous. I know enough politicians, lawyers and diplomats to recognize the pattern of dissembling. Obama was different from other lying politicians not in degree, but in kind. He represented the worst thing about modern leftism, i.e., the desire to acquire and hold power at all costs...consequences be damned. In other words Obama believes the ends justify the means.
In 2012 Obama was reelected by character assassination. He characterized Romney as a dog abuser who killed some guys wife. Obama lied about the ACA. He lied about the economy. Obama isn't interested in creating jobs. He's interested in growing the power and control of the federal govt.
The fact that Obama was elected and reelected tells us a great deal about the American people. No one on CC will deny that the Americans have become a profoundly ignorant and unreflective people. Maybe they are getting what they deserve.
Obama seeks to transform people like me out of existence using the full weight of the United States Govt. In the process I have stopped thinking of myself as an American. I have detached myself from love of country. I have become implacably hostile to Uncle Sam. I am not alone.
How very jejeune. Sappy, patriotic-song love or implacable hatred. Oh, de dwama!
You remind me of the physician who misdiagnoses a patient. You see anti-Americanism in me and think it is simply ODS. In retrospect I date my disaffection from at least 2001, not 2009. Even God herself couldn't save the USA. Once a people become decadent there is no going back. There is no redemption from decadence. America isn't going to heal itself. The human capital just isn't there to permit Americans to rise to the challenge. Degeneration and debasement of a culture without a unifying principle won't allow reformation. This is one of the processes of history. A bell once rung cannot be unrung.
I can't help but observe that you can't defend the US. So you're compelled to engage in a personal attack. Your behavior is predictable.
Wrong, but thanks for playing. I see anti-Americanism AND ODS. Like tertiary syphilis and gonorrhea. It's entirely possible to have both at the same time.
My my, we certainly are in high dudgeon, are we not?
Not trying to "defend" the U.S. I'll defend it when I think it deserves defending, and not when I don't. See, I'm not the sappy-love/burning-hate dwama queen you are. As far as personal attacks, you specifically said a while back you weren't on this board looking for a debate, you were looking for a fight. So, you got one, and now you're whining. More dwama queen behaviour.
Why don't you borrow some of Boom's butthurt cream?
I don't think you perceived the anti-Americanism until I spelled it out for you. Btw, ODS is not like a lesser included offense. Most people who have ODS still love some version of America.
Yes. I can see that you're charmed by it.
Ok.
Don't get emotional on me.
I'm also looking to vent. To do so effectively I need a foil.
I don't think we're fighting. It's more like rough sex. I don't use butthurt cream because I've lost sensation in the butt.
What does that even mean? He had 11 years experience as an elected official. Harvard Law with experience working in the community and academia. Lack of qualifications really isn't a legitimate worry with this guy.
Lol, are you trying to make it seem like making promises that he couldn't live up to and wanting to be in power makes him any different than any other presidential candidate ever?
Nobody runs for president if they don't want power. Everyone who run makes some promises they can't live up to. This isn't "decadence", it is politics.
I don't think I ever once heard Obama mention Romney's car crash or that he abused dogs. Other people brought it up, but it was never central to the campaign.
The fact is that Romney was a bad candidate. The GOP knew it, which is why they were so reluctant to crown him as their nominee. They were desperately looking for someone better to challenge for the spot, but in the end they had to settle for him.
I think you are just kind of losing it. It sucks that your candidate didn't win this time around, but there is nothing profoundly different or awful about this time compared to any other election.
The US swings back and forth between Dems and Republicans, the sun rises and sets, and things carry on.
Assumes facts not in evidence. You have not demonstrated that he, in fact, ever had it.
Obama had credentials, but not experience.
I don't recall any presidential candidate other than Obama speaking like the Messiah:
Obama is responsible for the actions of his campaign committee. After all, they worked for him and he didn't denounce them.
In American political culture the characteristics necessary to campaign successfully are not the same as the characteristics necessary to govern effectively.
I lost it long ago if you're talking about love for the established order in the USA. Rome didn't fall in a day. All complex societies collapse through a process similar to a series of systems failures. When the incremental failures reach critical mass collapse ensues. Check this out:
The Byzantines pretended to be Romans long after Rome fell to Visigoths, Vandals and had been occupied by Ostrogoths. Similarly, the residents of the USA today now pretend they are the heirs and successors to the Americans. How ineffably pathetic.
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I really don't agree with you on this one. He had over a decade of experience in government, and lots of experience before that leading community projects, working in academia, and working in the private sector.
Does someone have to run a hedge fund to be qualified to be president?
You honestly think that he is the first person to try to be inspiring?
Did his campaign committee ever come out and call him a murder or dog abuser?
People on both sides sling mud. We all know all the crap that people accused Obama of. It is part of the political landscape.
What does this have to do with this discussion? The fact is that Romney was a bad candidate, which is a big reason why he didn't win.
Lol, you seem so desperate to make this connection, but you are really forcing it. Yes, empires rise and fall, we get it. That doesn't mean Obama is anything special.
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Ain't working out so great now, is it?
Looks like practical experience does have some advantages
We need a president who understands business. A president who has run businesses, like George W. Bush. That's the kind of president who's good for the economy.
Dow Jones Industrial Average on Bush's Inauguration Day, Jan. 20, 2001 - 10,587
Dow Jones Industrial Average on Bush's Last Day, Jan. 20, 2009 - 7949
DJIA on Obama's Inauguration Day, Jan 20, 2009 - 7949
DJIA Today - 16,109
Dow Jones Industrial Average on Bush's Inauguration Day, Jan. 20, 2001 - 10,587
Dow Jones Industrial Average on Bush's Last Day, Jan. 20, 2009 - 7949
DJIA on Obama's Inauguration Day, Jan 20, 2009 - 7949
DJIA Today - 16,109
Good point... Thank God that the Dow Jones is strong, I suppose that offsets the unemployment, massive use of welfare stamps and issues on home foreclosures...
Whew!
Whew!
Not intended to. It's intended to refute the moronic notion that "executive experience" makes a good President.
Why don't you set them goalposts down for a spell? Running around carrying them's gotta be tiring.
That's awful handy... You didn't
Tell ya what, why don't we use your logic and focus on the good things that BHO has accomplished.
I understand that there are/were fewer hurricanes and tornadoes in the recent past... That is sound proof that his individual experience is directly responsible for mitigating Climate Change (insert eeeevil sounds here).
Oh, and almost forgot - he also single handedly killed Osama Bin Laden in between golf games.
Kudos!