Barack Obama Failed
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So, her employer used this as an excuse to cheap out, she admittedly never even tried to sign him up for insurance through healthcare.gov (OKC Woman Blames Obamacare For Husband Losing Insurance - 18/2 Test), and then some doctors were negligent.
But yeah, it is all Obama's fault!
Yep. It is.
Same as Benghazi, the IRS targeting, Fast and Furious, the increased violence in Iraq, the total lack of respect for US power on the world stage, Russia rising, a 17 trillion dollar debt, and the end of American hegemony.
The WORST president in history.
What kind of an idiot thinks putting gov't thieves and insurance company thieves together achieves ANYTHING????
Oh, I forgot to mention creating law as he goes along (as if he were annointed Emperor) and refusing to enforce law already on the books.
The WORST.
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I don't think it is near perfect, but the one obvious benefit is that more people will be insured and that insurance will cover more things.
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Just to be clear, do you think that any of these things had a bigger impact in terms of loss of American lives, impact on the reputation of the US internationally, and impact their national debt, than the Iraq and Afgan wars?
Standard ODS sufferer response: Bush isn't President any more. Obama is. That makes everything bad that has ever happened Obama's fault.
No denying that Obama has dropped the ball on a number of files, no different than any other President.
Over exaggerating doesn't change that reality
I've never denied it. I just don't blame Obama for the Civil War, AIDS, and continental drift. And I don't pretend that Benghazi was the only time Americans have ever been killed. ODS sufferers like to point to Benghazi and the Tehran embassy (Carter). They completely ignore the 261 Marines killed at the Beirut airport in the Reagan administration. But I have little doubt they'll blame Obama for it.
In terms of events like Benghazi as compared to other similar events in US history and based on the information that has come to light, there are striking differences that must be recognized.
Hell, they imprisoned some guy in California over a youtube submission that the Feds 'blamed' for inciting the attack
Hell, they imprisoned some guy in California over a youtube submission that the Feds 'blamed' for inciting the attack
So what has Obama done that you do blame him for ?
The rollout of Obamacare was obviously Selibus's fault no blame to Obama , check.
Fast and Furious had to be the doing of Holder let's keep the boss in the dark .
Bengazi all on Hilary .
I.R.S. just some people in the Ohio office no meeting at the White house .
So he is at fault for none of America's current problem's what has he accomplished ?
He didn't rollout Obamacare remember it is not his fault ?
Do you think there will be any indictments coming down on any of these scandals as there were in Iran-Contra?
Worse'n Benghazi, nowhere near as bad as the bailouts or Obamacare. My standard is cost and damage.
I think it is hard to directly compare something like that to domestic issues. I think it has to be judged against the other "America: World Police" type things.
But in a general sense, at least with the bailouts and the Affordable Care Act, they are spending their time and money trying to solve major issues directly affecting their own people. I guess I see any performance on issues that you are supposed to be working on as still better than doing things you should never ever be doing in the first place(i.e. selling weapons to Iran and funding armed rebels in Nicaragua).
Sure is. That's why it takes a superbly crafted, finely honed instrument like my mind.
Nonsense. I gave you the standard by which I was judging. Iran/Contra was a tempest in a teacup. Bunch Congressoids shouted for a while, couple people got convicted then overturned on appeal, and none of the governments involved lasted very long.
I disagree. First off, I'd prefer a competent enemy to an incompetent ally. Malice can't do a tenth of the damage damfoolery can do. Second, the bailout emptied the Treasury into the pockets of the bankers, and tens of millions of people still lost their homes. Here's a f*ucking brainwave. . . use the money to pay for those people's homes. That way the banks get the money they need, and people keep their homes. Instead, the banks are paying their executives, who caused the problem in the first place, eight-figure bonuses, the people have lost trillions in housing, and the housing stock is rotting away for want of maintenance. Thirdly, the two real dangers of the ACA are a) it does nothing to control costs, which is the real problem the U.S. health care system has, and b) its presence blocks the establishment of sensible, effective health care reform.
I have no use for good intentions once a person is old enough to vote. By that point you should either exercise some foresight or refrain from hatching some asswitted plan that makes things worse.
Don't forget the Reset with Russia and the Pivot to Asia. The Reset emboldened Russia and the Pivot antagonized China. And let's not neglect getting played by the Iranians and the decision to remove Gadhafi from power in Libya. But in many ways the greatest error by Obama was his decision to escalate the War in Afghanistan. About eighty percent of American deaths in that War occurred while Obama was commander in chief.
There is no reason to create those problems in the first place.
Like it or not, no other president would have done this in a fundamentally different way.
No option is fair. If you give money to all the people who are under water on their mortgages, it really isn't fair to all the people who were actually living within their means. You probably wouldn't be too happy if your neighbor was given hundreds of thousands of dollars from the government and you were not.
I agree that it isn't a great plan, but it isn't like there was any other serious proposal for change in the pipes.
Looking around the world, the most logical option seems to be a robust government option, but people in the US get so freaked out by the word government that I can't see that happening any time soon.