The Man Who Almost Became Toronto’s Crazy Mayor

eh1eh

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I love how Loc always finds the most vile dregs of the op/ed world. It's like the political version of that weird cousin on fb who posts boil lancing videos and road kill art.

He is skilled.

Nah...one cannot be fired up whilst employing "doggone" in a retort. It's just too jaunty, too clean, too Mister Rogers.

I mean...I didn't even swear, mention his mom, increase font, bold or paste any of my famous jpg's. :lol:


LOL. You said 'jaunty'.
 

Goober

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Come on. If you are going to spread this stuff around without comment, you are implicitly supporting it. You are helping to promote it.



Seems to describe Mercury and G.I Jack-***'s posting style pretty well.

If I disagree with someone, I am always more than happy to explain why.

Loc posts all manner of news reports- starts a debate- Is that not the role of a forum?
They were and he is still a public figure.
 

BornRuff

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Loc posts all manner of news reports- starts a debate- Is that not the role of a forum?
They were and he is still a public figure.

The point of a forum is to discuss things, which obviously has been lacking for the past few pages of this.

There is a difference between starting discussion and trolling.
 

BornRuff

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Plenty of spouses who wander off due to depression or mental illness, do not make the news. Bosma's case bears no resemblance.

Police routinely ask the public for assistance in missing person's cases if they feel that it is necessary. The media normally reports on these. The only real difference here is that certain people have latched onto it.
 

karrie

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Police routinely ask the public for assistance in missing person's cases if they feel that it is necessary. The media normally reports on these. The only real difference here is that certain people have latched onto it.

Uh huh.... and why have they latched onto it?
 

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Police routinely ask the public for assistance in missing person's cases if they feel that it is necessary. The media normally reports on these. The only real difference here is that certain people have latched onto it.
Like yourself who keeps posting about it.
 

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Interesting comparison. A man who was taken out, brutally murdered and then incinerated. I can see how it is very much like the suicide of an emotionally disturbed man.
 

BornRuff

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Uh huh.... and why have they latched onto it?

You can see pretty clearly from threads like this that there are more than a few people who want to use it to launch political attacks.

Interesting comparison. A man who was taken out, brutally murdered and then incinerated. I can see how it is very much like the suicide of an emotionally disturbed man.

We are talking about the missing person part of both cases. Police asked the public for help and got lots of media attention in both cases, so clearly you don't need to be a "public figure" to get media attention in cases like this. None of that other stuff was known when the media/public was first involved.
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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We are talking about the missing person part of both cases. Police asked the public for help and got lots of media attention in both cases, so clearly you don't need to be a "public figure" to get media attention in cases like this. None of that other stuff was known when the media/public was first involved.

People wander off all the time and don't make the news. People commit suicide and don't make the news. Your Bosma comparison was a weak attempt to dispute the fact that George garnered media attention because of his status as a public figure. Is there nothing you won't concede? Good grief.
 

BornRuff

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People wander off all the time and don't make the news. People commit suicide and don't make the news. Your Bosma comparison was a weak attempt to dispute the fact that George garnered media attention because of his status as a public figure. Is there nothing you won't concede? Good grief.

Lol, read the posts before you get all pissy about something. The point is pretty damn simple. I don't know why you are so obsessed with getting mad at me about anything relating to this incident.

People are so desperate to attack this family that they put blinders on to ignore all the other similar events. Tim Bosma is just the most famous one, but police and the media routinely report stuff like this when they believe it is necessary or will be helpful to the case. If you watch the news for anything other than political attack material, you will see this.
 

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Police routinely ask the public for assistance in missing person's cases if they feel that it is necessary. The media normally reports on these. The only real difference here is that certain people have latched onto it.

Sorry this was not the police asking for help in a missing persons case. That gets 3 minutes with junior reporter. Once you are a public figure, you are always a public figure. If you don't want the attention for life, don't run for office.
 

BornRuff

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No, it was a horrendous crime. News like that sells.

448,000 hits just on his name.
https://www.google.ca/#q=tim+bosma

There was widespread media attention when he was missing, before anyone knew what had happened to him. The level of media coverage was actually much larger than it was in this case, since the incident went on for numerous days before we found out what had happened.

Sorry this was not the police asking for help in a missing persons case. That gets 3 minutes with junior reporter. Once you are a public figure, you are always a public figure. If you don't want the attention for life, don't run for office.

Actually that is exactly what it was. It was reported in the media, but they didn't dwell on it.

Christopher disappearance really didn't get all that much media coverage. It is pretty funny, because on the same issue, you have people complaining that the media didn't report on it enough.

I guess the term "public person" means whatever the hell you want it to mean. All we can say for certain is that Smitherman has been out of the government for 4 years now, and his husband never held any public office. If you were going to draw comparisons to someone like Rob Ford, who is currently in the highest job in his level of government, it seems to me that it isn't appropriate to lump them into the same category.
 

karrie

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You can see pretty clearly from threads like this that there are more than a few people who want to use it to launch political attacks.

Had his husband been a missing person with mental illness, and he had not been a celebrity, it would not be national news, it would not be a topic of discussion days later. It made the news the way it did, because of who he is, not his disappearance.

they put blinders on to ignore all the other similar events. Tim Bosma is just the most famous one,

Bosma is NOT a similar case. The kidnapping of a grown man is not the same as the countless people with mental illness who go missing.
 

BornRuff

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Had his husband been a missing person with mental illness, and he had not been a celebrity, it would not be national news, it would not be a topic of discussion days later. It made the news the way it did, because of who he is, not his disappearance.

Obviously he was in the news because of his disappearance. What would the story be about otherwise?

Again, it is quite common for police to put out the call for help when they think it is necessary, and for the media to publicize that call for help. The discussion afterwards seems to mainly just be stuff like in the OP where people are trying to use it to score cheap political hits.

Bosma is NOT a similar case. The kidnapping of a grown man is not the same as the countless people with mental illness who go missing.

It is similar in that a person was missing and police put out the call for help from the public. It is dissimilar in the fact that Tim's case received a lot more public attention despite him having no connection to public life whatsoever.

Remember, when the story was first put out there, nobody knew what actually happened to Tim. They just knew that he was missing and there was serious concern for his safety. That is exactly where they were when they asked for help in finding Christopher.

Police make decisions about how to proceed with cases based on what they know about the situation. In many missing person's cases there is less evidence that the person is actually in danger. In Christopher's case, they were very worried that he was in danger, and sadly, they were right.
 

karrie

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Obviously he was in the news because of his disappearance. What would the story be about otherwise?

Again, it is quite common for police to put out the call for help when they think it is necessary, and for the media to publicize that call for help. The discussion afterwards seems to mainly just be stuff like in the OP where people are trying to use it to score cheap political hits.



It is similar in that a person was missing and police put out the call for help from the public. It is dissimilar in the fact that Tim's case received a lot more public attention despite him having no connection to public life whatsoever.

Remember, when the story was first put out there, nobody knew what actually happened to Tim. They just knew that he was missing and there was serious concern for his safety. That is exactly where they were when they asked for help in finding Christopher.

Police make decisions about how to proceed with cases based on what they know about the situation. In many missing person's cases there is less evidence that the person is actually in danger. In Christopher's case, they were very worried that he was in danger, and sadly, they were right.

You know darn well his news coverage would have been local, and that's it, had he not been married to a politician. You're not that blind to reality. And no, Bosma was not a missing depression sufferer, he was a kidnap victim, they're not the same. At all.