Royal Navy scrambles destroyer to challenge Russian warship off UK coast

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Well look at that. Seems the dept has more than doubled under Blackheads Toy government. My, My.

I've already said that it's not Britain's debt you need to worry about, it's Canada's.

Already at 66% of GDP, according to Canada's giant debt clock Canada's debt is growing at $1,772.57 per second, which is the equivalent of $106,355 per minute, $6.4 million per hour, or $153 million each day.

Yet, as I've noticed, Canadians are so arrogant and think they have a world-beating economy that they have noticed the trouble their economy is rapidly getting into.

As for Britain, ours stands at 73% of GDP, not much higher than Canada's - and we are doing something about it.

Although 73% of GDP is a lot, it is worth bearing in mind that other countries have a much bigger problem. Japan for example has a National debt of 225%, Italy is over 100%. The US national debt is close to 75% of GDP. [See other countries debt]. Also the UK has had much higher national debt in the past, e.g. in the late 1940s, UK debt was over 180% of GDP.
 

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Rust buckets? You mean like all the new Daring-class destroyers, Astute-class hunter-killer submarines, Queen Elizabeth-class aircraft carriers and, soon, Type 26 frigates that are being built?

.. And yet, when the Russians sent one eensy weensy little ship, you could not respond other than sending the one defending vessel from the far South.... Looks like all of your bluster on the boats is all for naught, doesn't it?

I've already said that it's not Britain's debt you need to worry about, it's Canada's.

Already at 66% of GDP, according to Canada's giant debt clock Canada's debt is growing at $1,772.57 per second, which is the equivalent of $106,355 per minute, $6.4 million per hour, or $153 million each day.

Yet, as I've noticed, Canadians are so arrogant and think they have a world-beating economy that they have noticed the trouble their economy is rapidly getting into.

As for Britain, ours stands at 73% of GDP, not much higher than Canada's - and we are doing something about it.

Although 73% of GDP is a lot, it is worth bearing in mind that other countries have a much bigger problem. Japan for example has a National debt of 225%, Italy is over 100%. The US national debt is close to 75% of GDP. [See other countries debt]. Also the UK has had much higher national debt in the past, e.g. in the late 1940s, UK debt was over 180% of GDP.

Canada's economy is doing just fine Blackie, in fact, Canada and a few other countries like Australia far outpaced your little Isle in terms of weathering the storm and in both cases, each country has a wealth of natural resources that people like you clamour for.

That must really hurt, especially considering that the UK has close to a 90% debt to GDP ratio.... Sadly, it will take decades, if ever, that you can pull your fat out of the fire.

In the meantime, you can enjoy cleaning-off human feces from your door step, compliments of the Roma that are flocking to the UK expecting to receive healthcare and welfare.

LOL
 

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.. And yet, when the Russians sent one eensy weensy little ship, you could not respond other than sending the one defending vessel from the far South.... Looks like all of your bluster on the boats is all for naught, doesn't it?

Most of those ships haven't even been built yet. It's impossible to send them when they are under construction.

Wait until they are built, though, and the RN will be the envy of the seas once more.

Canada's economy is doing just fine Blackie

This is just another example of Canadians being too arrogant to notice their stuttering economy and that Britain is now outperforming Canada.

Yeah, that's right. Britain is now outperforming Canada.

Whilst Britain's economy is now on the rise after a global economic downturn, Canada's is starting to wane.

Canada's debt stands at 66% of GDP - not much different to Britain's 75%. And the British are cutting their debt, whilst the Canadians aren't.

Canada's economy grew slower than expected in 2013 and is to do so again this year. Britain's economy grew FASTER than expected in 2013 and is to perform even more strongly in 2014.

In fact, this year is forecast to see stronger economic growth for Britain than for Canada - 2.0% for Canada compared to 2.4% for Britain, and this when Britain is still recovering from a worldwide recession.

Next year - 2015 - is forecast to see Britain's economygrow 2.6%.

2013 saw the Canadian economy grow at a less-than-Earth-shattering 1.7%. The British economy grew 1.9%.

As the CBI said, Britain is now on a steady growth path through 2015 and beyond.

As for unemployment, Canada's stands at 6.9% and the UK's at 7.4%. Yet Canada's uneomployment rate is forecast to RISE, above that of the USA, to 7.8% in 2014, whereas Britain's is forecast to FALL to 7.0% in 2014, to below that of Canada.

Just three days ago, however, it was revealed that Canada's economic outlook for 2014 is "too rosy".

Canada’s economic growth outlook too ‘rosy,’ says report | Financial Post

So whilst Canada's economy may be performing "just fine", it is now just starting to be outperformed by Britain, a country which actually took longer to recover from the global economic downturn than most other countries.

That must really hurt, especially considering that the UK has close to a 90% debt to GDP ratio.... Sadly, it will take decades, if ever, that you can pull your fat out of the fire.

UK's debt isn't close to 90% of GDP. It's around 75% of GDP, only a tad higher than Canada's.



After a period of financial restraint, from the mid-1990s, public sector debt at a % of GDP fell to just 29% of GDP by 2002. From 2002 – 2007, national debt increased to 37 % of GDP. This increase in debt levels occurred despite the long period of economic expansion; it was primarily due to the government’s decision to increase spending on health and education.

And national debt goes up and down all the time. Throughout most of the 1990s Canada's national debt was higher than the UK's.

In the meantime, you can enjoy cleaning-off human feces from your door step, compliments of the Roma that are flocking to the UK expecting to receive healthcare and welfare.

LOL

Which country is it that has the world's highest rate of immigration?

I'll give you a clue.

It begins with C and ends with A.
 
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Most of those ships haven't even been built yet. It's impossible to send them when they are under construction.

So, basically what you're saying is that your theoretical navy is best.

Get back to me when you can afford to build a proper vessel... 'Til then, it's a pretend navy

This is just another example of Canadians being too arrogant to notice their stuttering economy and that Britain is now outperforming Canada.

When you have a strong economy that successfully weathered a global recession, you have every right to be proud

Canada's debt stands at 66% of GDP - not much different to Britain's 75%. And the British are cutting their debt, whilst the Canadians aren't.

It is very different, especially when you consider that the UK's debt to GDP is close to 90%

Britain's economy grew FASTER than expected in 2013 and is to perform even more strongly in 2014.

There's only one way to go when you are at rock bottom.

Next year - 2015 - is forecast to see Britain's economygrow 2.6%.

Oooooo, a forecast.. How exciting.

How things go last year? The year before?



So whilst Canada's economy may be performing "just fine".

It is... You're pretty jealous, aren't you?


UK's debt isn't close to 90% of GDP.


It is


Which country is it that has the world's highest rate of immigration?


Those countries where people actually want to go
 

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Rust buckets? You mean like all the new Daring-class destroyers, Astute-class hunter-killer submarines, Queen Elizabeth-class aircraft carriers and, soon, Type 26 frigates that are being built?
If the Brits can't figure out how to wire up their autos, the boats could be as advanced as Star Trek skyships and still not function worth a pinch of gooseshyte (recalls a mishap in a ex-Brit sub that Canucks acquired. Also recalls a Jag that needed work here and it was a nightmare of fuel tubing and Andy Capp designed electrics).
Warrantee lasts for 5 minutes or till the boat leaves dock (had a buddy that worked selling used cars for a while that always said "warrantee lasts for 2 minutes or till you leave the lot").
 

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We've all jumped on the British for their 24hr response time to get a boat
into the area....but how would Canada have faired in the same situation?

Canada has three guided missile destroyers launched about 40 years ago,
12 multi-role frigates which also sounds like which sound like a similar
vintage, 12 coastal defense vessels build about 20yrs ago, and our four
famous submarines....and a handful of unarmed support & auxiliary
boats. (Royal Canadian Navy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

Could we have done any better with our Navy? By Navy, I mean Navy, and
not Air Force, or Water Bombers, or Fire Trucks, or whatever....
 

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We've all jumped on the British for their 24hr response time to get a boat
into the area....but how would Canada have faired in the same situation?

Canada has three guided missile destroyers launched about 40 years ago,
12 multi-role frigates which also sounds like which sound like a similar
vintage, 12 coastal defense vessels build about 20yrs ago, and our four
famous submarines....and a handful of unarmed support & auxiliary
boats. (Royal Canadian Navy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

Could we have done any better with our Navy? By Navy, I mean Navy, and
not Air Force, or Water Bombers, or Fire Trucks, or whatever....
Well, seeing as Canuckville puts more import on forest fires, house fires, etc. than wars and keeping the bad guy au jour away, keeping fire equipment modernized would seem to be sensible and wise. :D
 

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We've all jumped on the British for their 24hr response time to get a boat
into the area....but how would Canada have faired in the same situation?

Canada has three guided missile destroyers launched about 40 years ago,
12 multi-role frigates which also sounds like which sound like a similar
vintage, 12 coastal defense vessels build about 20yrs ago, and our four
famous submarines....and a handful of unarmed support & auxiliary
boats. (Royal Canadian Navy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

Could we have done any better with our Navy? By Navy, I mean Navy, and
not Air Force, or Water Bombers, or Fire Trucks, or whatever....


So, if a foreign navy lands a ship in the most Northern areas of Canada, exactly what is their next move from there?
 

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We've all jumped on the British for their 24hr response time to get a boat
into the area....but how would Canada have faired in the same situation?

Canada has three guided missile destroyers launched about 40 years ago,
12 multi-role frigates which also sounds like which sound like a similar
vintage, 12 coastal defense vessels build about 20yrs ago, and our four
famous submarines....and a handful of unarmed support & auxiliary
boats. (Royal Canadian Navy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

Could we have done any better with our Navy? By Navy, I mean Navy, and
not Air Force, or Water Bombers, or Fire Trucks, or whatever....

I am always a bit suspicious when hearing noisy hullaballoos of how "we" are "keeping vigilant" through displays of defensive might. Competing militaries routinely inform others of manoeuvres to prevent accidental trigger frenzy. So these "hullaballoos" are largely for domestic propaganda so that we plebs feels comfort in our ruling betters.
That is not to say that we Canadians do not engage in the same drama. Recall when jets were "scrambled" from Cold Lake to meet Russian bombers on exercise at the Pole . We were not told how it was possible for our jets to travel that distance instantaneously.
PS to Les
I thought the "ennemi du jour" were poppy poppers.
 

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Russian ship 30 miles from the Scottish coast and the closest Brit ship is 600 miles away and 24 hours to scramble...

In other words...

GAME OVER!
 

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Most of those ships haven't even been built yet. It's impossible to send them when they are under construction.

Wait until they are built, though, and the RN will be the envy of the seas once more.

LMAO. You're bragging about imaginary ships?

Wait till we build these!

 

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Yet according to BL Britain has the greatest navy in the world. Along with being the only nation with intergalactic ships.

In an age of drones and ICBMs navies have become largely obsolete. Well, vessels on the surface anyway. This story doesnt really mean much.
 

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I am always a bit suspicious when hearing noisy hullaballoos of how "we" are "keeping vigilant" through displays of defensive might. Competing militaries routinely inform others of manoeuvres to prevent accidental trigger frenzy. So these "hullaballoos" are largely for domestic propaganda so that we plebs feels comfort in our ruling betters.
That is not to say that we Canadians do not engage in the same drama. Recall when jets were "scrambled" from Cold Lake to meet Russian bombers on exercise at the Pole . We were not told how it was possible for our jets to travel that distance instantaneously.
PS to Les
I thought the "ennemi du jour" were poppy poppers.
?? I don't even know what a poppy popper is. (Waits) .......
 

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In an age of drones and ICBMs navies have become largely obsolete. Well, vessels on the surface anyway. This story doesnt really mean much.
Nah, people seem to need floating launch pads for planes, helos, and missiles.

Nah, people seem to need floating launch pads for planes, helos, and missiles.
and th
e accompanying support vehicles.