How about them Canucks!

#juan

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Torterella is being honest at least. The Canucks are probably not going to be world beaters but they'll do better if they settle down and play their game as opposed to running around they've done in the last couple games.

There is a fairly good chance we'll see Lack in goal today. lack is at least coming off a win in his last game. On paper, the Canucks should win this game but you never know.
 

talloola

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Torterella is being honest at least. The Canucks are probably not going to be world beaters but they'll do better if they settle down and play their game as opposed to running around they've done in the last couple games.

There is a fairly good chance we'll see Lack in goal today. lack is at least coming off a win in his last game. On paper, the Canucks should win this game but you never know.

my guess is that Lack will play the second game of each back to back, but not today.
unless luongo has a period of games where he is terrible, lack will not be given games unless
its back to back, or if luongo is injured. this isn't the same situation they had with schneider,
where he grew to be the better goalie after luongo stumbled over a period of time, this is a situation
where lack is 'the backup' and will stay that way unless, over a period of time, something changes that.

philly is a desperate team, and they are playing at home, so I wouldn't
be too sure of the 'odds', as canucks also are not playing up to their
potential, so I don't see how they really are deemed as the better team
as philly are also playing below their potential.

don't let stats and wins and losses dictate outcomes for future games in
the NHL, teams are far too even for that.

everyone had allready written calgary off before they even played the
first games this season, they are now raising eyebrows as they are playing
very well, with a good record.
 
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#juan

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my guess is that Lack will play the second game of each back to back, but not today.
unless luongo has a period of games where he is terrible, lack will not be given games unless
its back to back, or if luongo is injured. this isn't the same situation they had with schneider,
where he grew to be the better goalie after luongo stumbled over a period of time, this is a situation
where lack is 'the backup' and will stay that way unless, over a period of time, something changes that.

philly is a desperate team, and they are playing at home, so I wouldn't
be too sure of the 'odds', as canucks also are not playing up to their
potential, so I don't see how they really are deemed as the better team
as philly are also playing below their potential.

don't let stats and wins and losses dictate outcomes for future games in
the NHL, teams are far too even for that.

everyone had allready written calgary off before they even played the
first games this season, they are now raising eyebrows as they are playing
very well, with a good record.

If, as you say, Luongo is in the net, I don't know who will win. I would put Lack in this game but whoever plays, the Canucks have to score more than a goal or two to win.
 

#juan

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I think the whole team woke up. Kesler scored both the first goal and the last goal for Vancouver. I wonder how much longer Burrows will be out?
 

talloola

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booth was playing, played the whole game as usual
kesler scored two goals, but his first goal was a gift, that my grandmother, (of course,
if she was still alive) could have scored.

juan, unless luongo isn't playing well over a period of time, they will play himo.
there is 'no' taking turns, a number one goalie and a backup don't play like that, it
is the number one goalie who owns the net, and as I said before, lack will show up on the
second game of back to back games, which there is 'two' on this trip.

luongo has played fine, and he was fine tonight, and he was fine last game with exception to
the last period where he packed it in 'along' with the rest of the team, if they were going
to sit him out for that, then the whole team should have sat our for their unacceptable play
in the last period against montreal.

the kesler line played better, but my opinion of the game is this - two teams that both looked
like an AHL game, no flow to the game, and both teams looked very even.

don't know where anyone would get the notion that canucks were automatically the favourite to win this
game, and they didn't play any better than philly, till they were fighting to kill that penalty
right near the end, just happened that canucks won the game, lucky for them, as they needed it
badly.

teams like, chicago, san jose, st. louis, colorado this season, pittsburg should walk all over
the canucks, unless they show more ability, at this point they look like a middle of the road or
lower club to me.

The games that should be no contest they pretty have to let Luongo play.

there is no such thing jlm, if you would become more knowledgeable with the rest of the league
you would automatically know that, and I don't understand your statement,
according to you luongo should play games you think are against easier
teams?, wouldn't it be the other way around, that the backup would play
against teams you think are easier?
why would the coach choose his top goalie to play against weaker teams.
 

JLM

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He couldn't have played much but he was on the roster.

Booth played for 12 minutes.

there is no such thing jlm, if you would become more knowledgeable with the rest of the league
you would automatically know that, and I don't understand your statement,
according to you luongo should play games you think are against easier
teams?, wouldn't it be the other way around, that the backup would play
against teams you think are easier?
why would the coach choose his top goalie to play against weaker teams.

I'm no expert but according to the stats so far this season, the Canucks are favoured to win. So if the Canucks are playing their best they should have it in the bag. With Luongo you can be more sure of that happening. That's all I'm saying.
 

talloola

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Booth played for 12 minutes.

I fellasleep a few times thru the game for a minute or two each time, but

I wonder why,as I mentioned last game he looked like he was struggling to get
around fast enough,still wonder if he is injured again, cause he has lost some
of that speed, which he has lots of.
 

bill barilko

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....teams like, chicago, san jose, st. louis, colorado this season, pittsburg should walk all over the canucks, unless they show more ability, at this point they look like a middle of the road or
lower club
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That's what I saw in the second period-the only one I watched all the way through-just not trying.
 

talloola

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Booth played for 12 minutes.



I'm no expert but according to the stats so far this season, the Canucks are favoured to win. So if the Canucks are playing their best they should have it in the bag. With Luongo you can be more sure of that happening. That's all I'm saying.

the media are sucked in by stats too, they make their decisions by 'what' happened last year and year
before during the reg. season, 'hence' saying that calgary will be at the bottom of the pile this year.

the season is a blank slate, a clean slate. can't be 'sure' of anything till the final buzzer goes off.

florida just beat pittsburg the other day, apparant big upset, but florida now have won two games that
the 'socalled' experts say they haven't a chance.
the media chatter constantly about such things, they also don't have a clue most of the time, they
go by big names, last year, the year before, etc.

my motto is this - when the puck is dropped the two teams playing are dead even, after each period
each team is showing either one thing or another, (tonight both teams were even}, so it stays that
way till thefollowing period, as in tonights game, still no sign which team is dominant over the
other, then on to the end of the game, tonight could have been either team, doesn't have any
bearing of which team is suppose to win or not, there is no such thing.

as the season goes along, certain teams for all kinds of reasons rise to the top and others sink
down, and many times that is caused by major injuries to important players, hence when those players
return, those teams can again climb up the ladder.

I never start watching any game thinking the canucks should win cause they are better than the other
team, that is just a set up for total let down when they don't.

there is lots of detail inside of each game for each period, and never a general answer why a team
wins or loses, eg 'canucks sure sucked tonight', well, as in montreal game, that was the general
opinion, which was totally wrong, it was only the last period, or the period of time after 'THAT'
goal, then they stopped playing, and gave montreal every reason to get pumped and go for the win,
which they did.
same for tonights win, they didn't outplay philly at all, but when the final bell goes someone is
usually ahead, and tonight it was canucks, luckily, could easily have been philly.

That's what I saw in the second period-the only one I watched all the way through-just not trying.

or, trying their guts out, but the other team on the night play better, not tonight, both teams looked
mediocre.
 

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the media are sucked in by stats too, they make their decisions by 'what' happened last year and year
before during the reg. season, 'hence' saying that calgary will be at the bottom of the pile this year.

the season is a blank slate, a clean slate. can't be 'sure' of anything till the final buzzer goes off.

florida just beat pittsburg the other day, apparant big upset, but florida now have won two games that
the 'socalled' experts say they haven't a chance.
the media chatter constantly about such things, they also don't have a clue most of the time, they
go by big names, last year, the year before, etc.

my motto is this - when the puck is dropped the two teams playing are dead even, after each period
each team is showing either one thing or another, (tonight both teams were even}, so it stays that
way till thefollowing period, as in tonights game, still no sign which team is dominant over the
other, then on to the end of the game, tonight could have been either team, doesn't have any
bearing of which team is suppose to win or not, there is no such thing.

as the season goes along, certain teams for all kinds of reasons rise to the top and others sink
down, and many times that is caused by major injuries to important players, hence when those players
return, those teams can again climb up the ladder.

I never start watching any game thinking the canucks should win cause they are better than the other
team, that is just a set up for total let down when they don't.

there is lots of detail inside of each game for each period, and never a general answer why a team
wins or loses, eg 'canucks sure sucked tonight', well, as in montreal game, that was the general
opinion, which was totally wrong, it was only the last period, or the period of time after 'THAT'
goal, then they stopped playing, and gave montreal every reason to get pumped and go for the win,
which they did.
same for tonights win, they didn't outplay philly at all, but when the final bell goes someone is
usually ahead, and tonight it was canucks, luckily, could easily have been philly.



or, trying their guts out, but the other team on the night play better, not tonight, both teams looked
mediocre.

I hear you, Talloola, nothing is carved in stone when it comes to N.H.L. hockey, even the Oilers under Sather lost the odd game.
 

#juan

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The team that should have won, won. Vancouver had the better of the play and when the chance presented itself, the Canucks took it. Kesler's first goal was a gift. I would say that the Canucks will win the next game against Buffalo as well.
 

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I hear you, Talloola, nothing is carved in stone when it comes to N.H.L. hockey, even the Oilers under Sather lost the odd game.
I remember a game back then where the Canucks had a 6-2 lead but lost 10-7.
 

talloola

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The team that should have won, won. Vancouver had the better of the play and when the chance presented itself, the Canucks took it. Kesler's first goal was a gift. I would say that the Canucks will win the next game against Buffalo as well.

I saw it as a very even game, philly not the lesser team at all, and you aren't going out on much of a
limb with buffalo, lol, they just won their first game last night, so who knows where they are going from
that, up or back down.

can you imagine the screaming and whining 'if' the canucks had of lost both of those overtime games,
which could have happened just as easy as not, and also if they had of lost last night, which also
could have happened just as easy as not, such a fine line as I see it, so the actual winning and losing
has lots of detail inside of the game, and having a win like what I mention above is nothing to be
grinning about, its something to be breathing a sigh of relief about, and i'm sure 'gillis' is doing
just that.

I just can't find the team I have been use to over the past few years, a very consistenly strong team, deep and always threatening, what I see
'so far' this season is a lesser team, very much like many other teams in the league, and I will 'accept' them at that level and not expect
more, unless they somehow add different players.
The high level they played over the past few years can't continue forever, as
players get older.
If what I see changes, I will be the first to admit I was wrong, but not at
this point.

I hear you, Talloola, nothing is carved in stone when it comes to N.H.L. hockey, even the Oilers under Sather lost the odd game.


and 'that' team was not balanced at all, their defense was not strong, but the offense was so strong
they scored almost at will, but that same team, playing in todays game would not perform as they
did, and gretzky would be the first to agree with that statement, as he has said as much in interviews.
 
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#juan

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Vancouver, for the last few years, has had better than average goaltending. Luongo has had success both as an amateur, and as a professional. I get the feeling Luongo is injured in some way because he is not up to the same standard as we have come to expect. Maybe he will come back, maybe he won't but great goal tending is what the team has counted on for the last few years. If it wasn't Luongo, it was Schneider. At this point I don't know how good Lack is but he needs real game time badly. If he gets that game time, maybe he can put some pressure on Luongo like Schneider did....maybe that is what Luongo needs