Harper Conservatives Revivng hate Speech

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and you know it's about more than religions and terrorists. And to prove it just look to the last line in the story. The owners are winning and Canada is becoming more American every day...............



"The bill from Alberta Conservative MP Brian Storseth passed in the House of Commons last summer, but needed Senate approval. It has received royal assent and will take effect after a one-year phase-in period.

"An 'ecstatic' Storseth said the bill, which he says had wide support across ideological lines and diverse religious groups, repeals a “flawed piece of legislation” and he called Canada’s human rights tribunal “a quasi-judicial, secretive body that takes away your natural rights as a Canadian.

“(Section 13) had actually stopped being used as a shield, as I think it was intended, to protect civil liberties, and started being used as a sword against Canadians, and it’s because it was a poorly-written piece of legislation in the first place,” he said.

Left-leaning supporters of Section 13 are furious at the move.


Check this fellows CV, experience and recommendations before you have a stroke.

Canada in landmark move to strike out "hate speech" law - The Commentator[/QUOTE]

Alan Borovoy, general counsel for the Canadian Civil Liberties Association, has also criticized Section 13(1). He cited an example of the book Hitler's Willing Executioners, which alleges the complicity of German civilians in the Holocaust, and said that the thesis is arguably "likely to expose" German people to contempt, and therefore be a violation of Section 13(1).[7]

Borovoy also noted that under Section 13(1), "Intent is not a requirement, and truth and reasonable belief in the truth is no defence."[7] He has said that when he and other human rights activists advocated the creation of human rights commissions they "never imagined that they might ultimately be used against freedom of speech" [9] and that censorship was not the role he had envisioned for the commissions.[10]

Borovoy further added that:

"Although it's true that they have nailed some genuine hatemongers with it, it has nevertheless been used or threatened to be used against a wide variety of constituencies who don't bear the slightest resemblance to the kind of hatemongers that were originally envisioned: anti-American protesters, French-Canadian nationalists, a film sympathetic to South Africa's Nelson Mandela, a pro-Zionist book, a Jewish community leader, Salman Rushdie's Satanic Verses, and even a couple years ago, a pro-Israeli speaker was briefed about the anti-hate law by a police detective before he went in to make a speech."[7]

The Jack of Hearts: Moon Report: Repeal of Section 13 of CHRA Recommended

Repeal Section 13 and Revitalize Press Councils says Richard Moon | BrentWittmeier.com

Canadian Human Rights Commission free speech controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

GreenFish66

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No human rights violations, means no human rights commission.

Gotta justify Its existence.

With the risk of becoming part of/feeding the problem.
 

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"An 'ecstatic' Storseth said the bill, which he says had wide support across ideological lines and diverse religious groups, repeals a “flawed piece of legislation” and he called Canada’s human rights tribunal “a quasi-judicial, secretive body that takes away your natural rights as a Canadian.

I'm far more concerned about the PMO being turned into a de facto executive branch with no effective oversight and control by Parliament. It's very hypocritical of any conservative to talk about freedom in Canada while steps are being taken a fundamental level to reduce our freedoms.
 

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I'm far more concerned about the PMO being turned into a de facto executive branch with no effective oversight and control by Parliament. It's very hypocritical of any conservative to talk about freedom in Canada while steps are being taken a fundamental level to reduce our freedoms.

Try and stay on topic.
 

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Canada in landmark move to strike out "hate speech" law - The Commentator

Alan Borovoy, general counsel for the Canadian Civil Liberties Association, has also criticized Section 13(1). He cited an example of the book Hitler's Willing Executioners, which alleges the complicity of German civilians in the Holocaust, and said that the thesis is arguably "likely to expose" German people to contempt, and therefore be a violation of Section 13(1).[7]

Borovoy also noted that under Section 13(1), "Intent is not a requirement, and truth and reasonable belief in the truth is no defence."[7] He has said that when he and other human rights activists advocated the creation of human rights commissions they "never imagined that they might ultimately be used against freedom of speech" [9] and that censorship was not the role he had envisioned for the commissions.[10]

Borovoy further added that:

"Although it's true that they have nailed some genuine hatemongers with it, it has nevertheless been used or threatened to be used against a wide variety of constituencies who don't bear the slightest resemblance to the kind of hatemongers that were originally envisioned: anti-American protesters, French-Canadian nationalists, a film sympathetic to South Africa's Nelson Mandela, a pro-Zionist book, a Jewish community leader, Salman Rushdie's Satanic Verses, and even a couple years ago, a pro-Israeli speaker was briefed about the anti-hate law by a police detective before he went in to make a speech."[7]

The Jack of Hearts: Moon Report: Repeal of Section 13 of CHRA Recommended

Repeal Section 13 and Revitalize Press Councils says Richard Moon | BrentWittmeier.com

Canadian Human Rights Commission free speech controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/QUOTE]
Cobalt - I am on topic.
 

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Speeders would like speed limits abolished.
Drinkers would like the road-side breathalyzer eliminated.
Tories would like the hate laws repealed.

A lot of conservatives cite the possibility of the Bible being banned due to hate speech laws. That says everything.
 

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Speeders would like speed limits abolished.
Drinkers would like the road-side breathalyzer eliminated.
Tories would like the hate laws repealed.

Never heard a Tory state that. I am referring to the Criminal code.
 

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and you know it's about more than religions and terrorists. And to prove it just look to the last line in the story. The owners are winning and Canada is becoming more American every day...............<-----HATE SPEECH



"The bill from Alberta Conservative MP Brian Storseth passed in the House of Commons last summer, but needed Senate approval. It has received royal assent and will take effect after a one-year phase-in period.

"An 'ecstatic' Storseth said the bill, which he says had wide support across ideological lines and diverse religious groups, repeals a “flawed piece of legislation” and he called Canada’s human rights tribunal “a quasi-judicial, secretive body that takes away your natural rights as a Canadian.

“(Section 13) had actually stopped being used as a shield, as I think it was intended, to protect civil liberties, and started being used as a sword against Canadians, and it’s because it was a poorly-written piece of legislation in the first place,” he said.

Left-leaning supporters of Section 13 are furious at the move.


Canada in landmark move to strike out "hate speech" law - The Commentator

Someone call the HRC I want to file a complaint!