Anti-gay marriage protestors disrupt men's French Open Final

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Frankly i think it'll take the chaos that will ultimately grip a society when its fundamental structural keystone of marriage.. is turned into an absurdity and an insult...

Its was an absurdity long before same sex marriages started happening. Its a useless and antiquated institution which most fail at these days whether they are hetero or homosexual. I have no use for it and will never marry.

I was born out of wedlock and suffered no disadvantages as a result. Clearly it isnt needed.

You're the one who brought up the species argument; try and keep up. In any court if you bring up a subject it's fair game for cross-examination. So, are you promoting bestiality?

Someone brought up neanderthals. I guess if they count then there was some bestiality going on. Didnt seem to do us any harm.
 

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Its was an absurdity long before same sex marriages started happening. Its a useless and antiquated institution which most fail at these days whether they are hetero or homosexual. I have no use for it and will never marry.

I was born out of wedlock and suffered no disadvantages as a result. Clearly it isnt needed.

Have you not been paying attention to all his ranting and raving???? Wake up!!! Clearly the downfall of modern civilized society is all your fault.

Although if that line of thinking is representative of civilized society, then I say let's burn this mother down. :D

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You're the one who brought up the species argument; try and keep up. In any court if you bring up a subject it's fair game for cross-examination. So, are you promoting bestiality?
How does insinuating the Neanderthals may have indulged in bestiality translate into promoting bestiality? Unless, of course, you have a fixation with it like Durka seems to have. Is your dog turning you on? :p

As Les correctly pointed out, we are all animals, so, any form of sex between humans is also bestiality I know that thought will cause cons to have extreme Heeby Jeebies, but too bad. You could always pray to your god for forgiveness.
 

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As Les correctly pointed out, we are all animals, so, any form of sex between humans is also bestiality
Wrong, as usual.

Definition of BESTIALITY

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: the condition or status of a lower animal

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: display or gratification of bestial traits or impulses

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: sexual relations between a human being and a lower animal
 

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Is the institution of marriage so weak and so insecure it cannot accommodate all who want
to be married. I have been married a long time and I don't feel threatened by two same
sex people getting married. My wife she isn't threatened either and I have children and
grand children and some are married and none of them feel threatened
Perhaps it is those who feel insecure are threatened.
This is all nonsense and the churches should be ashamed of themselves. I think we should
respond though. If the churches in a country receive a tax break or a tax exemption they
should have to perform gay marriages or opt out of their privileged status that would bring a
hell of a howl. It scores a point though. here they are given a special privilege and claiming
a its their right, while attempting to deny others a privilege which is a right.
 

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Wrong, as usual.
Definition of BESTIALITY
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: sexual relations between a human being and a lower animal
Who decides which animals are lower on the pecker pole than humans? Your book is a work of fiction written by giant egos. Man is no more important or higher than any other animal, plant or bug. Life on this planet is interconnected and interdependent. We are all dependent on each other for survival. This massive egotistical fraud about us being created in the image of god is absolute BS. Time to get down off our pedestals before we wipe out all life on this planet.
 

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How does insinuating the Neanderthals may have indulged in bestiality translate into promoting bestiality? Unless, of course, you have a fixation with it like Durka seems to have. Is your dog turning you on? :p

As Les correctly pointed out, we are all animals, so, any form of sex between humans is also bestiality I know that thought will cause cons to have extreme Heeby Jeebies, but too bad. You could always pray to your god for forgiveness.
Try peanut butter with your dog. Spreads on. Dog licks it off. I saw the movie version.

Who decides which animals are lower on the pecker pole than humans? Your book is a work of fiction written by giant egos. Man is no more important or higher than any other animal, plant or bug. Life on this planet is interconnected and interdependent. We are all dependent on each other for survival. This massive egotistical fraud about us being created in the image of god is absolute BS. Time to get down off our pedestals before we wipe out all life on this planet.
Let the coyotes decide our fate? :)
 

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Let the coyotes decide our fate? :)
Coyote is the trickster and he is a friend of mine. I fear humans more than any animal. Bears, for example, have no hidden agendas or alterior motives. They are just being what they are. Treat them with respect and they will respond in kind. Humans, who the hell knows what motivates them or how they are going to react to you.
 

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You're the one who brought up the species argument; try and keep up. In any court if you bring up a subject it's fair game for cross-examination. So, are you promoting bestiality?

Are you seeking wish forfillment??


The French Open is a series of TENNIS courts, Walter....tennis court 's are ..
OHHH , heck. wahaever....
 
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Its was an absurdity long before same sex marriages started happening. Its a useless and antiquated institution which most fail at these days whether they are hetero or homosexual. I have no use for it and will never marry.

I was born out of wedlock and suffered no disadvantages as a result. Clearly it isnt needed.



Someone brought up neanderthals. I guess if they count then there was some bestiality going on. Didnt seem to do us any harm.


There's no doubt that marriage in the modern world is in disarray.. much to the victimization and impoverishment of children. But at least it was, in the laws of nations and as a cultural symbol up to this point.. something that aspired to its original archetype.. and God sanctioned structure (one man, one woman to exclusion of all others, and until death do they part).. and with a primary function of the protection and nurturing of children.

But turning it into baseless amorphous nonsense.. one that champions not love and fidelity.. but lust, self gratification and degradation of the human spirit... is something that only happens in a society in precipitous social and economic decline.. racked by confusion and pessimism.
 
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But turning it into baseless amorphous nonsense.. one that champions not love and fidelity.. but lust, self gratification and degradation of the human spirit... is something that only happens in a society in precipitous social and economic decline.. racked by confusion and pessimism.
And out of the ashes will rise a new civilization. It is the natural cycle of human history.

Marriage of the nuclear family variety they you seem to think is the foundation of our civilization is not natural and has proven detrimental to the well being of most children. The decline is a direct result of this unnatural institution. Children are much more well balanced and loved in a tribal or extended family situation which was how we lived for the first million years or so of our existence. The nuclear family has only been around since the industrial revolution, which one could argue was the beginning of the end of our civilization.
 
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Wrong, as usual.
Nope.

Definition of BESTIALITY

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: the condition or status of a lower animal
That just means that critters are what they are and usually only seek survival.

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: display or gratification of bestial traits or impulses
Traits like looking for food and having offspring and gratification like eating and making offspring. hhmm Don't humans do that, too?

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: sexual relations between a human being and a lower animal
Ahah! To some men, women are lower animals.
Get over it, humans engage in bestiality in at least two of those definitions.

Who decides which animals are lower on the pecker pole than humans? Your book is a work of fiction written by giant egos. Man is no more important or higher than any other animal, plant or bug. Life on this planet is interconnected and interdependent. We are all dependent on each other for survival. This massive egotistical fraud about us being created in the image of god is absolute BS. Time to get down off our pedestals before we wipe out all life on this planet.
So far we haven't been intelligent enough (on a large enough scale) to figure that out. Humans are not as bright as we think we are.

There's no doubt that marriage in the modern world is in disarray.. much to the victimization and impoverishment of children.
Wonder how we ever managed to survive before marriage.
But at least it was, in the laws of nations and as a cultural symbol up to this point.. something that aspired to its original archetype.. and God
so the fairy tale says
sanctioned structure (one man, one woman to exclusion of all others, and until death do they part).. and with a primary function of the protection and nurturing of children.
Which happened before there was such a thing as marriage.

But turning it into baseless amorphous nonsense.. one that champions not love and fidelity.. but lust, self gratification and degradation of the human spirit... is something that only happens in a society in precipitous social and economic decline.. racked by confusion and pessimism.
Yeah, we've read that conjecture from you before.

Conjecture def.:
obsolete
1 a : interpretation of omens
b : supposition

2 a : inference from defective or presumptive evidence
b : a conclusion deduced by surmise or guesswork
c : a proposition (as in mathematics) before it has been proved or disproved
- Merriam-Webster
 

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And out of the ashes will rise a new civilization. It is the natural cycle of human history.

...The nuclear family has only been around since the industrial revolution, which one could argue was the beginning of the end of our civilization.

It won't rise from those ashes until it restores marriage in its sacramental integrity.. civilization and marriage are inseparably linked.

And marriage has been around in this original and sacramental form since Adam and Eve (allegorically speaking).. which last i checked preceded the Industrial Revolution.

Nope.

That just means that critters are what they are and usually only seek survival.

Traits like looking for food and having offspring and gratification like eating and making offspring. hhmm Don't humans do that, too?

Ahah! To some men, women are lower animals.
Get over it, humans engage in bestiality in at least two of those definitions.

So far we haven't been intelligent enough (on a large enough scale) to figure that out. Humans are not as bright as we think we are.

Wonder how we ever managed to survive before marriage. so the fairy tale says Which happened before there was such a thing as marriage.

Yeah, we've read that conjecture from you before.

Conjecture def.:
- Merriam-Webster

The whole human mission... is in fact to rise from the level of the Beast.. to that of the Human.. which is specifically that Created in the image of God. The choice is there for every society, every generation and every individual. When we make the Beast our master... then he will define our future.

And LG.. the Word of the Creator is not conjecture.. it's Scripture... which you can accept as supposition or guesswork at your peril. :)
 
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And LG.. the Word of the Creator is not conjecture.. it's Scripture... which you can accept as a supposition or guesswork at your peril. :)
Oh, scripture. Whose scripture? The bible isn't the only scriptures around. What of the Vedas that precede the bible a a thousand years or more (and from which Jesus borrowed heavily in his teachings)? What of the Egyptians, the Mayans, etc. They wrote down their holy scripts. If you knew anything about the history of the bible, the whos, wheres and whys, you might find they have less divine inspiration that many others. Marriage is in trouble because of the nuclear family. Sure it has been around longer but within the context of the extended family or tribe.
 

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It won't rise from those ashes until it restores marriage in its sacramental integrity.. civilization and marriage are inseparably linked.
.... in your opinion.

And marriage has been around in this original and sacramental form since Adam and Eve (allegorically speaking).. which last i checked preceded the Industrial Revolution.
Ah, nope. The word itself showed up early in the late 13th or early 14th century. The concept of a monogamous marriage between a man and a woman only showed up about 20,000 years ago. Anything earlier than that is conjecture.

The whole human mission... is in fact to rise from the level of the Beast.. to that of the Human.. which is specifically that Created in the image of God. The choice is there for every society, every generation and every individual. When we make the Beast our master... then he will define our future.
More conjecture. There's just as much evidence for your "beast" existing as there is for your "creator" ...... none.

And LG.. the Word of the Creator is not conjecture.. it's Scripture... which you can accept as supposition or guesswork at your peril. :)
Call it what you want. I'll stick to "conjecture". There's no evidence for your "scripture" being anything other than fabrication.

I didn't need any church procedure to get married. Didn't need it to have kids, get into school, into the Fire Dept. or the Province's Wildfire Management Branch, pay taxes, be helpful to others, do charitable work, play rugby, etc. It's superfluous nonsense.