what if the Inca had won....
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That's easy for you to say, Geomyidae. heheWe would begin by calling them by their real name: Tawantinsuyu
For sure.You can say that again, Sal
Yep.You can say that again, Sal
Hernando De Soto was one of the commanders of the 1532 Expedition which conquored the Inca empire.
You are having a rather slow morning ,
I think you're having trouble yourself.
What part of "cities with gold in them" and De Soto (as well as others) searching for the "Cities of Gold"
The Seven Cities of Cibola | See the Southwest
Better luck next time!
DeSoto was long dead by the tiem Coronado set out for Cibola.
Go back to sleep . lil one. Trouble thyself no more.....
" Well SURE I know where we are getting all that Jewelry gold Spanaird'- it's Cali-, uhhhh, "KANSAS"! That's right , Kansas. Just head for Kansas, Senor Coronado- ..."
Word gets around...
Word gets around...
So he didn't find the Cities of Gold after all!
Thanks for playing!
Coronado 1510-1554
De Soto 1497-1542
Coronado's Expedition 1540
De Soto's Expedition 1541
That was too easy.
Time for you to brush up a bit before you take me on... lil one. lmao@u
Coronado moved North AFTER THE TIGUEX WAR - 1542.
I remain - as they say- amazed......................
Francisco Vásquez de Coronado - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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The Spanish were able to concentrate the then existing instruments of European power against the Aztecs and Incas because they were centralized political systems susceptible to decapitation. The Spanish could not bring all of the then existing instruments of Western power against the First Peoples of Florida because they were not centralized in the same way as the Aztecs, Incas, and Mound Builders.
It would take Andrew Jackson, who defeated the British at the Battle of New Orleans, to subjugate the Seminoles and other indigenous peoples of Florida. Andrew Jackson was able to bring the by then much superior instruments of western power to bear against the Indians.
It would take Andrew Jackson, who defeated the British at the Battle of New Orleans, to subjugate the Seminoles and other indigenous peoples of Florida. Andrew Jackson was able to bring the by then much superior instruments of western power to bear against the Indians.
Good point...
The Inca in particular were 'rather poorly informed' of how Cortes conquored Mexico.. In Western Europe, word of Columbus's discoveries spread like wildfire.
The Spanish also appear to have been rather poor prospectors. They missed the massive gold & silver deposits of Arizona & California..
some folksmove the goalposts , Smack. You grab them in your muzzle & dash around like an exicited Labrador pup in training...
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You remain... as they say... wrong!
It's all there in your link. You should read it.
P.S. Moving goal posts will not save you in here.
Please start from the beginning Hunboldt.
You seem to get confused as the threads wear on so it would be best if you review from time to time.
From your link....
Coronado set out from Compostela on February 23, 1540, at the head of a large expedition composed of about 400 European men-at-arms (mostly Spaniards), 1,300 to 2,000 Mexican Indian allies, four Franciscan monks (the most notable of whom were Juan de Padilla and the newly appointed provincial superior of the Franciscan order in the New World, Marcos de Niza), and several slaves, both natives and Africans.[5]
Now then... you are aware that 1542 (the year De Soto died) came after 1540... aren't you?
The Tiguex War was the first named war between Europeans and Native Americans in what is now the United States. It was fought in the winter of 1540-41 by the expedition of Francisco Vázquez de Coronado against the twelve or thirteen pueblos of Tiwa Indians as well as other Puebloan tribes along both sides of the Rio Grande, north and south of present-day Bernalillo, New Mexico, in what was called the Tiguex Province.
Tiguex War 1540-1541... Consider yourself about as wrong as you can be.
It's all there in your link. You should read it.
P.S. Moving goal posts will not save you in here.
Salvation via the Lord Smack????
March 1541 is the EARLIEST that coronado sets out for Cibola. Before that he is fightign the Tiguex in the lower Grande Valley.
Salvation via the Lord Smack????
March 1541 is the EARLIEST that coronado sets out for Cibola. Before that he is fightign the Tiguex in the lower Grande Valley.
Not according to the link you provided... and not according to history.
Again... from your link...
Coronado set out from Compostela on February 23, 1540, at the head of a large expedition composed of about 400 European men-at-arms (mostly Spaniards), 1,300 to 2,000 Mexican Indian allies, four Franciscan monks (the most notable of whom were Juan de Padilla and the newly appointed provincial superior of the Franciscan order in the New World, Marcos de Niza), and several slaves, both natives and Africans.
Ouch! That must hurt! lol
Even with those facts... De Soto dies in 1542 and look what you posted earlier.
You lose Hunboldt... now you are just making yourself a bigger fool in here by defending what is indefensible.
That is what I thought Hunboldt. The facts just weren't in your favor.
I hope you've learned your lesson.
Better luck next time.
CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Francisco Vasquez de Coronado
April 23, 1541, to be exact. Rather away from the Inca , but- oh, well...
April 23, 1541, to be exact. Rather away from the Inca , but- oh, well...
And this means what?
So you are not sticking with the other link you provided?
Still trying to move the goal post are you?
When did De Soto die again? 1542. Either way you're wrong.
FAIL
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It means , Smack- you should call the nursing station. the lil marine alba tross between you ears is spinning the cage at warp speed.....
It means , Smack- you should call the nursing station. the lil marine alba tross between you ears is spinning the cage at warp speed.....
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The Thread topic was " What if the Inca had won' not 'wuzzhappenign on another continent....'
It means you know you have been schooled and you have nothing but this to offer.
And this means you're talking to yourself.