Harper can win in 2015

Mowich

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I believe he can win the next election, but he's going to have to step up his game. Liberal victories in Ontario, Alberta and now BC show that the Liberals are trending, IMO mainly because too many people think Justin Trudeau is the next Messiah who lead them to the promised land.

Trouble is that the two of the Liberal gov's you mention more resemble conservative values than any federal liberal values.
 

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He will win the next election.
Canadians are more apt to go with the devil they know, than jump onto Never Never Land that Justin Trudeau is promising
 

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He will win the next election.
Canadians are more apt to go with the devil they know, than jump onto Never Never Land that Justin Trudeau is promising

Oh hold on.. Justine Trudeau is the new pretty boy on the block.. not sure if I should kiss him first or just Fuk'em.

Of course he will also have his following of Trudeau leftist commie socialist supporters.

He may pull an Obama on us all.. ??

However, in the long run Canadians will see he is inexperienced and only running on his father name, no real substance to the man.
 

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I think it's likely Stephen Harper will win again. Trudeau doesn't strike me as a leader. He's a prop. He won't be able to rejuvenate the Liberal electoral machine and take on Harper's. Although, he could surprise us and find himself a Karl Rove.
 

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Oh hold on.. Justine Trudeau is the new pretty boy on the block.. not sure if I should kiss him first or just Fuk'em.

Of course he will also have his following of Trudeau leftist commie socialist supporters.

He may pull an Obama on us all.. ??

However, in the long run Canadians will see he is inexperienced and only running on his father name, no real substance to the boy.

He won't pull an Obama. He has no experience. Zero. Zilch. Nada. Nutttttting. Obama worked in Government. This guy's only connection to politics was his Daddy. But then again, those who love Trudeau don't care. They could careless. He still won't win though. They really blew their wad this time. He'll likely flame out before the Liberals recover.
 

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Were I you, kid............I would not be holding my breath.

I won't be, I and a lot of Canadians have a lot to say about what's being done to this country by our "government".

Unless Harper plans an outright coup in the next election I doubt he's going to end up with enough MPs in Parliament to be PM again. His approval rating with Canadians is about what Nixon's was when he was forced to resign.

I get there's this constant campaign to build a cult of personality around Stephen Harper, but when it comes down to it he's much smaller than this nation and our history. We can do so much better despite what the big blue machine keeps trying to make us accept.

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Canadians will re-elect him for a fourth term without any great enthusiasm. Canadians have never really warmed to this prime minister. Chances are they never will. He is too cold, too distant, perhaps too mean, to encourage affection. He is the exemplar of the cult of non-personality, the champion of charisma-free politics in an era when, sadly, anti-intellectualism, rules the national stage.

But he can win — and I think he will win — as long as he commands the one issue that concerns most Canadians: the economy. It's not going to be a whole lot of fun. But Mackenzie King was no fun, either, and he ruled Canada off and on for a total of 22 years.

This makes us sound like the most arrogant and selfish people in the world, I think this is the conservative version of what they would like Canadians to be, not what we actually are. Canadians have a very long history of going the extra mile or ten to help others, on the climate change issue alone Harper and his merry band are betraying a very important tradition of compassion in Canada, just because they may lack that quality doesn't mean most of here do.

Climate change is already damaging global economy, report finds | Environment | guardian.co.uk

Climate change is already damaging global economy, report finds
Economic impact of global warming is costing the world more than $1.2 trillion a year, wiping 1.6% annually from global GDP

I also don't think this lack of compassion shown by the current "conservative" party is representative of traditional conservatism in this nation, so the real support base for Harper is much smaller than is being advertised here.

If you consider the degree of liberal corruption this far into the Cretien Dynasty, the conservatives are doing a bang up job.

Those are amazing sensory filters you've got working there.

Robocalls to thousands of Canadians attempted to steal their legal right to vote from them, I'd call that corruption of the worst sort.

Recently Irving shipyards got $288 million to re-design a ship it cost others nation less than half to build the entire vessel, I'd call that corruption. Billions of dollars have gone out in stimulus spending mostly with no oversight most of it to conservative ridings. We've just seen how the Auditor General has found $3.1 billion dollars has simply disappeared, the conservative government could be one of the most crooked in our history, but it's so good at blocking access to information it may takes years to reveal.
 

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I won't be, I and a lot of Canadians have a lot to say about what's being done to this country by our "government".
Yeah. For instance: "Harpy ain't great, but well, look on the bright side, at least we don't have Crooked ChRETIeN anymore and that appallingly privileged bombast, aPAULing Martin there anymore." Or: "well, at least we don't have Iggy, the American professor with the ethereal platform or some mama's-boy, drama teacher with the ethereal platform in." :D

Unless Harper plans an outright coup in the next election I doubt he's going to end up with enough MPs in Parliament to be PM again. His approval rating with Canadians is about what Nixon's was when he was forced to resign.
I wouldn't count on your opinion being very accurate. Once Canadians get over the prettiness of the drama queen and have gotten a good look at him and are used to him, if he hasn't come up with a solid platform, he's toast.

I get there's this constant campaign to build a cult of personality around Stephen Harper, but when it comes down to it he's much smaller than this nation and our history. We can do so much better despite what the big blue machine keeps trying to make us accept.
Oh, no doubt there are better people around, but the Glibs don't have any.
 

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Anyone can win in 2015 at this point because its too far out from the election to determine
the issues yet. Watch out Trudeau the young is not going to be a push over like him or
not. Mulcair will have his hands full just hanging on.
I don't like the idea of teaming up with the liberals though and certainly now with the Greens.
Harper I don't think will even be the leader by then he looks more and more like a guy who
wants to move on.
 

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I believe he can win the next election, but he's going to have to step up his game. Liberal victories in Ontario, Alberta and now BC show that the Liberals are trending, IMO mainly because too many people think Justin Trudeau is the next Messiah who lead them to the promised land.
Where in Alberta did the Liberals win?
 

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This makes us sound like the most arrogant and selfish people in the world, I think this is the conservative version of what they would like Canadians to be, not what we actually are. Canadians have a very long history of going the extra mile or ten to help others, on the climate change issue alone Harper and his merry band are betraying a very important tradition of compassion in Canada, just because they may lack that quality doesn't mean most of here do.

Climate change is already damaging global economy, report finds | Environment | guardian.co.uk

CLIMATE CHANGE!!!!


Biggest dam farce in human history..

People and their feel good purchase.. folks against Kyoto, the same people go buy from a company that promotes carbon credits..

The whole green movement is BS and a big money scam.

Look, nothing wrong with actually investing money into green technology such as solar, wind, geo-thermal.. I'm all for that.. but buying Carbon Credit from a countries that don't have a manufacturing base or high pollution to begin with, so we can pollute more and just feel good about it.. Christ!!

I dumped my green company when I witnessed first hand the scams and BS companies do while claiming to be green.

I moved my business back to Alberta.. and buying a Hummer this summer.

Carbon credit fraud: How big firms faked green to mint gold - Mumbai - DNA
 

Zipperfish

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Oh hold on.. Justine Trudeau is the new pretty boy on the block.. not sure if I should kiss him first or just Fuk'em.

Of course he will also have his following of Trudeau leftist commie socialist supporters.

He may pull an Obama on us all.. ??

However, in the long run Canadians will see he is inexperienced and only running on his father name, no real substance to the man.


And this thread is just a little too full of unrequited latent homosexuality between you and soldier-boy.
 

Cobalt_Kid

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CLIMATE CHANGE!!!!


Biggest dam farce in human history..

People and their feel good purchase.. folks against Kyoto, the same people go buy from a company that promotes carbon credits..

The whole green movement is BS and a big money scam.

Look, nothing wrong with actually investing money into green technology such as solar, wind, geo-thermal.. I'm all for that.. but buying Carbon Credit from a countries that don't have a manufacturing base or high pollution to begin with, so we can pollute more and just feel good about it.. Christ!!

I dumped my green company when I witnessed first hand the scams and BS companies do while claiming to be green.

I moved my business back to Alberta.. and buying a Hummer this summer.

Carbon credit fraud: How big firms faked green to mint gold - Mumbai - DNA

This is the kind of nonsense that Canadians and many others are getting tired of, even if I didn't have access to the scientific evidence on climate change I'd still know the world around me has changed significantly in the last four decades, I've watched it.

When almost all the ice is gone from the Arctic Ocean at the height of the summer melt there will be still a few yelling climate change is all a farce, the rest of us are going to be preparing for a much more uncertain world to live in. It would be nice to have a government that is there to lead and not impede us in doing so. Harper clearly isn't the person to do that.
 

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And this thread is just a little too full of unrequited latent homosexuality between you and soldier-boy.

You're just jealous, but hey I'll let you join the party.. ;)

This is the kind of nonsense that Canadians and many others are getting tired of, even if I didn't have access to the scientific evidence on climate change I'd still know the world around me has changed significantly in the last four decades, I've watched it.

The whole green movement is a Fad, sorta like bell bottoms. People see "Green Products" or "100% Renewable Energy" and they impulse buy without really doing research into the facts.. It's just a feel good purchase..


When almost all the ice is gone from the Arctic Ocean at the height of the summer melt there will be still a few yelling climate change is all a farce, the rest of us are going to be preparing for a much more uncertain world to live in. It would be nice to have a government that is there to lead and not impede us in doing so. Harper clearly isn't the person to do that.

The earth goes through many changes.. Alberta used to a tropical place at one time.. so sea ice melting.. not much of a surprise. Just another phase..

Yawn. Wake me up in a Millennium when I need to put water wings on and paddle to work.
 

Cobalt_Kid

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The whole green movement is a Fad, sorta like bell bottoms. People see "Green Products" or "100% Renewable Energy" and they impulse buy without really doing research into the facts.. It's just a feel good purchase..

It's a bit more serious than bell bottoms and when you consider that eventually all the necessities of life are dependent on a healthy environment including enough oxygen in the atmosphere, then screwing with nature too much is the same as screwing ourselves.

The earth goes through many changes.. Alberta used to a tropical place at one time.. so sea ice melting.. not much of a surprise. Just another phase..

Yawn. Wake me up in a Millennium when I need to put water wings on and paddle to work.

Sure it does and it also goes through periodic events that can rapidly depopulate the planet of most species. For instance the massive asteroid that hit the Earth about 65 million years initiated climate change that eventually killed off 75% of the species then present. It was the billions of tons of CO2 blasted into the atmosphere by the asteroid hitting carbon rich seafloor deposits that was one of the major causes, kind of like what we're doing now.
 

hunboldt

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I believe he can win the next election, but he's going to have to step up his game. Liberal victories in Ontario, Alberta and now BC show that the Liberals are trending, IMO mainly because too many people think Justin Trudeau is the next Messiah who lead them to the promised land.


ehh- not quite. Harvey came within 800 votes in Calgary Centre.
Badly run campaign, IMHO......
 

Christianna

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Until last night I would have sworn that people would not vote against their best interests, today I have to agree yes of course Harper can be elected yet again. Promise anything to get elected and do the opposite.
 

JamesBondo

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"Lesser of two evils" isnt a very good argument. It should be accepted by no one. Not "oh you're not as bad as the last guy so we'll give you a pass."

I agree with you. But all we have is choice between 2 evils.