Idle No More -Where is the Leadership?

[CDNBear]

It was a rhetorical question.

I kind of figured that, but saw an opening for a clean shot.

And I took it.

 

[PoliticalNick]

Which proves the post above yours, to be a giant load of BS.

Geezus, can you post anything that is filled with idiocy?

We bought those rights.

We traded land and resources for them.

The rest of your post is pure BS. You're a bigot that laments about not murdering men, women and children.

You are the epitome of ignorant.

Although you do deserve some kudos for not trying to defend your previous idiotic claims.

I hope that's a sign that you now understand that you don't know contractual/treaty law, you don't know what Canada is, and you certainly don't know anything about the First nations.

Project whatever you want Bear. Fact is you think you are owed something by me for things that happened over 100 years ago and you can go f*ck yourself trying to get it from me. Since you claim to have a great job and be so successful why does it even matter to you? You want something for nothing and you don't care who you get it from. You are a f*cking idiot! Why not get on with your self-proclaimed, better than mine, life and forget about what your race is or your color is and what happened in 1763 or whenever the f*ck it was. You think you should have special rights because of your ancestors birthplace and that is just utter bull$hit. When iot comes right down to it YOU are the ignorant one trying to take my money and money from every other Canadian for your benefit over an argument that is 200+ years old instead of being a man and doing for yourself.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

I kind of figured that, but saw an opening for a clean shot.

And I took it.

See you only a semi automatic weapon with a three round mag. Breathing is the key soldier.

 

[Goober]

It is a simple truth, nothing more. You don't see many tribes from Central/South America or Africa doing what the natives are doing here. Why? Because they were wiped out completely.

That doesn't mean I suggest genocide is an option to us, it simply means had it happened there wouldn't be the strife and discord we see in this country today. Had the explorers and settlers foreseen the issues their prodginy would encounter they may have made different decisions than making treaties.

You don't have to like the truth or how I speak it but ti is the truth. As usual peoples emotions get in the way and you see members like Gerry saying I promote genocide and your comment quoted. If you get over your emotional reaction and look at the facts clinically you will see I am right in my statement. It being twisted to me advocating extermination of a people based on race is on you guys. You all forget my heritage, which is Jewish. My family suffered losses in the holocaust and believe me, I can see there would be a lot less problems with the middle-East today had Hitler been successful in his plan. Just the simple fact.

There are no success from any Genocide. It always comes back to haunt the future generations- And rightly so.

 

[SLM]

It is a simple truth, nothing more. You don't see many tribes from Central/South America or Africa doing what the natives are doing here. Why? Because they were wiped out completely.

That doesn't mean I suggest genocide is an option to us, it simply means had it happened there wouldn't be the strife and discord we see in this country today. Had the explorers and settlers foreseen the issues their prodginy would encounter they may have made different decisions than making treaties.

You don't have to like the truth or how I speak it but ti is the truth. As usual peoples emotions get in the way and you see members like Gerry saying I promote genocide and your comment quoted. If you get over your emotional reaction and look at the facts clinically you will see I am right in my statement. It being twisted to me advocating extermination of a people based on race is on you guys. You all forget my heritage, which is Jewish. My family suffered losses in the holocaust and believe me, I can see there would be a lot less problems with the middle-East today had Hitler been successful in his plan. Just the simple fact.

I don't care.

Post rationalize it any way you want to, tart it up however you'd like. It's still an ignorant statement. Especially given all the ranting and railing you do against FN.

I can see there would be a lot less problems with the middle-East today had Hitler been successful in his plan.

This also is an ignorant statement, I don't give a damn what your heritage is, that doesn't justify ignorant statements. Period.

 

[PoliticalNick]

I don't care.

Post rationalize it any way you want to, tart it up however you'd like. It's still an ignorant statement. Especially given all the ranting and railing you do against FN.

This also is an ignorant statement, I don't give a damn what your heritage is, that doesn't justify ignorant statements. Period.

Aww! Boo-Hoo for you. It is a truth you obviously are far too emotional to accept. That is your issue if you cannot handle the truth.

 

[Goober]

Aww! Boo-Hoo for you. It is a truth you obviously are far too emotional to accept. That is your issue if you cannot handle the truth.

Then you should be aware of the growing strife in SA from the persecution of Native peoples. By that I mean everything from being run off the lands to mass murders.

How you can arrive at the view that Genocide has positives is beyond me.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Aww! Boo-Hoo for you. It is a truth you obviously are far too emotional to accept. That is your issue if you cannot handle the truth.

So you hate Jews and Indians.

 

[CDNBear]

Project whatever you want Bear.

Nope, no projection.

All facts supported by the contents of your posts.

Fact is you think you are owed something by me for things that happened over 100 years ago and you can go f*ck yourself trying to get it from me.

I do?

I know people that do think that, and guess what. They're gettin' it, form you, LMAO!!!

Since you claim to have a great job and be so successful why does it even matter to you?

I like seeing wrongs righted.

It's the same reason I prove you wrong and embarrass you so often.

You want something for nothing and you don't care who you get it from.

Do you have to put such utterly stupid comments in every one of your posts?

Canada got the land and resources to be a country.

First Nations got something in that trade.

Why is that so hard for you to grasp?

You are a f*cking idiot!

That keeps making you look stupid and proving wrong, lol.

Why not get on with your self-proclaimed, better than mine, life and forget about what your race is or your color is and what happened in 1763 or whenever the f*ck it was.

Question marks go at the end of questions.

And I already answered that question.

You think you should have special rights because of your ancestors birthplace and that is just utter bull$hit.

No, I think that the treaty entered by the Crown and my people should be honoured. I think the land stolen from us should be returned or paid for.

And the rights we do have, we negotiated in trade for land and resources that you benefit from.

So stop your whining.

When iot comes right down to it YOU are the ignorant one trying to take my money and money from every other Canadian for your benefit over an argument that is 200+ years old instead of being a man and doing for yourself.

I'm not trying to take money.

I'm trying to correct the stupidity idiots post as if it were fact.

It's almost a full time job.

See you only a semi automatic weapon with a three round mag. Breathing is the key soldier.

1 shot, 1 kill.

Aww! Boo-Hoo for you. It is a truth you obviously are far too emotional to accept. That is your issue if you cannot handle the truth.

The only emotion running rampant around here is yours.

Just look at the idiocy contained in your posts.

Irrational, excited, stupidity, ame calling, swearing, longing for genocide, all signs of serious anger issues. Anger is an emotion.

Serious anger, is very emotional.

You should really try a little introspection.

 

[SLM]

Aww! Boo-Hoo for you.

Classy rebuttal.

It is a truth you obviously are far too emotional to accept. That is your issue if you cannot handle the truth.

So I'm too emotional because I called you on your ignorant statement? That's beyond laughable.

If you're going to make statements about it being preferable to wipe out an entire group of people, expect to be called on it.

You know, folks in the Aryan Brotherhood consider it a 'truth' that white people are supreme to other 'races'. In other words, just because you consider it a 'truth' doesn't mean it isn't ignorant.

 

[CDNBear]

Classy rebuttal.

At this point you weren't genuinely expecting something intelligent were you?

 

[captain morgan]

So I'm too emotional because I called you on your ignorant statement?

Meh.... It's 'cause you're a chick - everyone knows that.

Now fetch me a sammich and I'm also pretty sure that beer won't walk from the fridge by itself.

 

[Mowich]

Aww! Boo-Hoo for you. It is a truth you obviously are far too emotional to accept. That is your issue if you cannot handle the truth.

Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.



Marcus Aurelius


On this matter, PN I do believe your perspective is somewhat askew.

 

[PoliticalNick]

Then you should be aware of the growing strife in SA from the persecution of Native peoples. By that I mean everything from being run off the lands to mass murders.

Not the ones that don't exist anymore. Those tribes aren't doing anything but becoming fertilizer.

So you hate Jews and Indians.

I don't hate anyone. I dislike people living in the past and thinking the people of the present should pay for things that happened to their ancestors. I dislike whiners who cannot just get on with taking responsibility for their own lives. Race doesn't enter the equation for me until the whiners bring it up.

The North American Indians want their race to mean something in this argument and think it should entitle them to some special standing. Same for the Jews, most think that entitles them to some special standing in the world, well it doesn't.

I am Jewish and built a very successful life for myself without ever once asking for a hand-out or any special favor or status because of my heritage. I feel sorry for those that don't have the gumption to do the same and despise those that think their heritage is an excuse for their lack of success in life.

 

[CDNBear]

On this matter, PN I do believe your perspective is somewhat askew.

That was generous.

I don't hate anyone.

So you lament the murder of men, women and children that you love?

I dislike people living in the past and thinking the people of the present should pay for things that happened to their ancestors.

It didn't just happen to our ancestors. It happened to us.

I dislike whiners who cannot just get on with taking responsibility for their own lives.

So do I.

I would also add I dislike whiners that don't have a clue about what the whine about, but whine anyways.

Race doesn't enter the equation for me until the whiners bring it up.

But you brought it up.

This isn't about race. It's about heredity.

The North American Indians want their race to mean something in this argument and think it should entitle them to some special standing.

No we don't.

We entered into negotiated contracts. We just want them honoured.

I feel sorry for those that don't have the gumption to do the same and despise those that think their heritage is an excuse for their lack of success in life.

Funny, I feel sorry for people that are so ignorant of the facts, but beak off like they aren't, that go on to advocate and lament genocide.

 

[Goober]

Not the ones that don't exist anymore. Those tribes aren't doing anything but becoming fertilizer.


I don't hate anyone. I dislike people living in the past and thinking the people of the present should pay for things that happened to their ancestors. I dislike whiners who cannot just get on with taking responsibility for their own lives. Race doesn't enter the equation for me until the whiners bring it up.

The North American Indians want their race to mean something in this argument and think it should entitle them to some special standing. Same for the Jews, most think that entitles them to some special standing in the world, well it doesn't.

I am Jewish and built a very successful life for myself without ever once asking for a hand-out or any special favor or status because of my heritage. I feel sorry for those that don't have the gumption to do the same and despise those that think their heritage is an excuse for their lack of success in life.

The rights of FN Peoples descend from Treaties, in the Charter and SCoC decisions. But it is apparent that you have some hardon for FN Peoples.

 

[CDNBear]

But it is apparent that you have some hardon for FN Peoples.

Nah, it's just ignorance.

 

[PoliticalNick]

Classy rebuttal.

It was a retort, not a rebuttal.

So I'm too emotional because I called you on your ignorant statement? That's beyond laughable.

I didn't say you were 'too emotional'. I said you, like most people, are unable to take emotion away from your viewpoint. You interpret my an@lysis as being one that promotes genocide when in reality it is a clinical fact. If the North-American Indians had been wiped out to the last one we would not be in this position today. There would not be a treaty issue because no treaties would have been made. There would not be a need for a department of indian affairs because there would be no indians. Is that too hard a concept for you to grasp, without an emotional reaction.

If you're going to make statements about it being preferable to wipe out an entire group of people, expect to be called on it.

I didn't say I would prefer it, I said there would be a different set of circumstances today and that would mean we would have the issues we have to deal with.

You know, folks in the Aryan Brotherhood consider it a 'truth' that white people are supreme to other 'races'. In other words, just because you consider it a 'truth' doesn't mean it isn't ignorant.

So along those lines the indians thinking they are owed something because of their race is ignorant even though they believe it is truth. We are all of the human race, race has nothing to do with superiority or who is owed what. If you remove the skin every human is the same underneath except for sex organs and we all own this planet equally IMO.

The rights of FN Peoples descend from Treaties, in the Charter and SCoC decisions. But it is apparent that you have some hardon for FN Peoples.

I got a hardon for a couple of indian chicks in my earlier days. ;-)

 

[CDNBear]

It was a retort, not a rebuttal.

Glad you could clarify that.

That would be another example of how emotional you are.

I didn't say you were 'too emotional'. I said you, like most people, are unable to take emotion away from your viewpoint. You interpret my an@lysis as being one that promotes genocide when in reality it is a clinical fact. If the North-American Indians had been wiped out to the last one we would not be in this position today. There would not be a treaty issue because no treaties would have been made. There would not be a need for a department of indian affairs because there would be no indians. Is that too hard a concept for you to grasp, without an emotional reaction.

All your emotional reactions, aside, nice backpedaling.

I didn't say I would prefer it, I said there would be a different set of circumstances today and that would mean we would have the issues we have to deal with.

No, you said it was a bad decision to not do it.

You made your position quitre clear.

So along those lines the indians thinking they are owed something because of their race is ignorant even though they believe it is truth.

That would be ignorant.

Thankfully that isn't what we think.

But thanks for proving me right, yet again.

We are all of the human race, race has nothing to do with superiority or who is owed what.

I agree. Now only if you could understand what you said.

If you remove the skin every human is the same underneath except for sex organs and we all own this planet equally IMO.

True, and we can all enter into negotiated agreements.

Just like we did.

Now you can live up to you end.

Enjoy.

I got a hardon for a couple of indian chicks in my earlier days. ;-)

By chicks you mean guys, right?

 

[PoliticalNick]

Just like we did.

Now you can live up to you end.

I didn't make any agreements. I would certainly remember signing such an agreement or contract. Are you sure it was me or am I just some white guy you point the finger at because we all look the same to you?

By chicks you mean guys, right?

Are you trying to say indian chicks are just guys in drag? That is not a very nice thing to say about your bretheren sisters.