How to rehabilitate convicted terrorists?

[MHz]

..... sounds like a BS excuse 'cuz nothing else better was available at the time.
Maybe that's just me though having not attended this Mosque as a young
man, but that's just my opinion & not supported by any real facts, I guess.

Maybe that real reason was also the one given at the 'end of the questioning. Much easier for us to demonize them that to have to 'ponder' the morality of being over there at all. So much for being an independent nation. Perhaps it is us who are the brain'washed one buying a bunch of lies and repeating it as if it was a fact.

CTVNews.ca Staff
Published Friday, Nov. 30, 2012 8:49AM EST
Last Updated Saturday, Dec. 1, 2012 10:52PM EST
The Canadian government’s staunch opposition to a vote that raised the status of Palestine in the United Nations has destroyed its credibility in the region and disqualified it from participating in future peace talks, the New Democrats charged Friday as Ottawa temporarily recalled diplomats from Israel and the West Bank.
NDP foreign affairs critic Paul Dewar said the Conservative government’s campaign against the UN's recognition of Palestine as a non-member observer state at the world body is baffling, marring all the work Canada has done over the past several decades to improve relations between Palestine and Israel.
“We can’t play that kind of role anymore with the behaviour we’ve seen from our government,” Dewar told CTV’s Power Play Friday.


Read more: Canada's UN vote on Palestine hurts its role in peace process: NDP | CTV News

Thats the way the system works. If you want to be safe you have to pay for it.



No. Times like these its Mike Godwin.

Considering anybody who doesn't suck up to Israel is classified as a terrorist but anything any Jew does (including the Rothschild bankers) has to be taken as if God himself was pulling the strings. Are you going to seriously try and say that Jews were not the 'terrorist' on any of the incidents listed below?? If so you might want to take one of your own lead pills.

Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies or Godwin's Law of Nazi Analogies

YEAR . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .PLACE
250 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Carthage
415 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Alexandria
554 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Diocèse of Clermont (France)
561 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Diocèse of Uzès (France) 612 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Visigoth Spain 642 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Visigoth Empire
855 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Italy
876 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Sens
1012 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mainz 1182 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - France 1182 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Germany
1276 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Upper Bavaria
1290 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - England 1306 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - France 1322 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - France (again)
1348 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Switzerland
1349 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hielbronn (Germany)
1349 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Saxony
1349 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hungary
1360 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hungary
1370 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Belgium
1380 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Slovakia
1388 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Strasbourg
1394 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Germany
1394 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - France
1420 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Lyons
1421 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Austria 1
424 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Fribourg
1424 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Zurich
1424 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Cologne
1432 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Savoy
1438 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mainz
1439 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Augsburg
1442 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Netherlands
1444 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Netherlands
1446 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bavaria
1453 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - France
1453 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Breslau
1454 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Wurzburg
1462 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mainz
1483 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mainz
1484 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Warsaw
1485 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Vincenza (Italy)
1492 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spain
1492 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Italy
1495 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Lithuania
1496 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Naples
1496 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Portugal
1498 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Nuremberg
1498 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Navarre
1510 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Brandenberg
1510 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prussia
1514 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Strasbourg
1515 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Genoa
1519 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Regensburg
1533 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Naples
1541 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Naples
1542 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prague & Bohemia
1550 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Genoa
1551 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bavaria
1555 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Pesaro 1
557 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prague
1559 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Austria
1561 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prague
1567 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Wurzburg
1569 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Papal States
1571 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Brandenburg
1582 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Netherlands
1582 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hungary
1593 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Brandenburg, Austria
1597 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Cremona, Pavia & Lodi
1614 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frankfort
1615 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Worms
1619 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Kiev
1648 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Ukraine
1648 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Poland 1
649 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hamburg
1654 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Little Russia (Beylorus)
1656 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Lithuania
1669 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Oran (North Africa)
1669 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Vienna
1670 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Vienna
1712 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Sandomir
1727 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Russia
1738 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Wurtemburg
1740 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Little Russia (Beylorus)
1744 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prague, Bohemia
1744 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Slovakia
1744 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Livonia
1745 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Moravia
1753 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Kovad (Lithuania)
1761 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bordeaux
1772 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Deported to the Pale of Settlement (Poland/Russia)
1775 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Warsaw
1789 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Alsace
1804 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Villages in Russia
1808 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Villages & Countrysides (Russia)
1815 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - L�beck & Bremen
1815 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Franconia, Swabia & Bavaria
1820 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bremen
1843 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Russian Border Austria & Prussia
1862 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Areas in the U.S. under General Grant's Jurisdiction[1]
1866 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Galatz, Romania
1880s - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Russia
1891 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Moscow
1919 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bavaria (foreign born Jews)
1938-45 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Nazi Controlled Areas
1948 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Arab Countries

 

[Ron in Regina]

Maybe that real reason was also the one given at the 'end of the questioning. Much easier for us to demonize them that to have to 'ponder' the morality of being over there at all. So much for being an independent nation. Perhaps it is us who are the brain'washed one buying a bunch of lies and repeating it as if it was a fact....

You know, I agree with you here to a certain extent. Young minds pumped full
of turmoil and testosterone (we've all been there) being manipulated as tools.

If anyone should be demonized, it's whomever was indoctrinating them in this
Mosque (& I'm assuming it only takes one charismatic **** placed in a position of
power and trust with these young men) to go out and plan to murder the citizens
of Toronto and other places in southern Ontario. It's a twisted mess.

The citizens of Toronto aren't exactly combatants in a war zone.

 

[MHz]

That doesn't mean they should have their eyes closed to the fact that our hands aren't as clean as we are told they are by own Gov.
Just on this thread their release has people saying they never should be or that they should be killed, that is just as ****ed up as the thinking in to OP article, so really we do not have the moral high ground. If we go 'over there' to fight Islam, why not start at home, because the citizens would be in a uproar so it is none talking baby=steps of persecution and a whole lot of false information by our side.

 

[Cannuck]

Ahhh.....OK. I have some Irish blood in me, but I've never even thought of bombing
the city hall in Regina & beheading the mayor (of Regina, Sk, Canada) 'cuz we're
part of the Commonwealth and the English (British) where imposing their will in
Ireland in the '70's still when I was a younger man.

I believe the more intelligent, educated and worldly we become, we tend to be less focused on defining ourselves by out heritage and/or nationality.

 

[petros]

Don't panic, just call Batman.

 

[MHz]

Don't get me wrong, if somebody has an issue with events over there they should be given the means to take it over there but on conditions that it is a one way trip. That being said it is too easy for a few in Ottawa to agree to being told by outside nationals on what our stance in (at least in public) Considering our path through becoming Soverign we did it as an internal matter, China, India did not have a list of demands for us. In issues that deal with the constitution it has to be a vote by individual voters rather than 1 representing a group.
If that is the internal workings then I doubt the Constitution allows us to call the shots in a foreign nation. Want something they have, offer them twice what it is worth and it is still cheaper than paying 1/2 price but needing an never ending war to 'make it happen'. If we haven't caught onto that yet we never will, or never allowed to is more like it, it is our own current leaders that are the stumbling block rather than anybody else.

We like to promote how fair we are jet we were openly getting people into Quebec from Ontario into Quebec because they woul;d vote a certain way. Why not have Quebec stay silent and let the rest of the country vote on whether we wanted them any longer?

Here is another aspect, due to war conditions not all soldiers come back and lead a peaceful life, how is that going to be prevented?

If Christians ruled the country because they were the majority then when we stop being the majority we should no longer try and say we speak for the majority. We enforce what our little system promoted all along, a select few ruling the many and deception is an everyday tool that can be used to make sure that happens. Harper said in CanCun that Ottawa would take directions from big business in their plans. He should have been out of a job by the time he landed on Canadian territory again. If we allow that what the **** would we care who is running things, it isn't like it could get any worse and for the record Islam was adapting to the UN suggestion a lot faster that the 'civilized West' was.

Don't panic, just call Batman.

I did, something about the batroom having a line-up cause only one flusher was working due to city cut-backs.

 

[petros]

Hmmm. Why didn't the cops set them up with meth lab equipment and bust them instead of cell phone detonators? They'd be in the pokey for another 10 years.

 

[L Gilbert]

I think MHz has a point (I mean a rational one for a change). It's mostly because of money and what can make money that's the reason behind why our 'civilised' nations interfere with other countries and that's at the cost of a lot of lives on both ends. Another reason is religion. Some people just can't be content with letting another bunch be content with whatever religion they have. People simply can't seem to control their urges for more and more money and sticking their noses in others' bizniss.
"Hey, they have something we want so lets see if we can con them out of it and if we can't, lets beat it out of them. Oh, and they have some pretty weird beliefs, so while we're there, let's fix that for them, too."

 

[MHz]

Hmmm. Why didn't the cops set them up with meth lab equipment and bust them instead of cell phone detonators? They'd be in the pokey for another 10 years.

Because they would have had to let the lab run for 10 years before they had enough evidence to win a case.

I think MHz has a point (I mean a rational one for a change).

I just love how people have put in a 'disclaimer' when there is no choice but to agree with me on some point. Benjamin Freedman was correct too.

 

[L Gilbert]

I just love how people have put in a 'disclaimer' when there is no choice but to agree with me on some point.

I'm glad you like that.

Benjamin Freedman was correct too.

No-one's wrong all the time.

 

[captain morgan]

Because they would have had to let the lab run for 10 years before they had enough evidence to win a case.

Easier solution is to plant a 1 kg bag of meth on them.... Distribution quantity carries a hefty mandatory these days.

I just love how people have put in a 'disclaimer' when there is no choice but to agree with me on some point. Benjamin Freedman was correct too.

When will you 99%ers ever catch a break?

 

[WLDB]

Are you going to seriously try and say that Jews were not the 'terrorist' on any of the incidents listed below?? If so you might want to take one of your own lead pills.

That is totally irrelevant to this particular thread. Anyone can be a terrorist. Its a tactic after all and not an ideology. This thread is about convicted terrorists in Canada that have absolutely nothing to do with Jews or Nazis.

Your "lead pills" are killing your own argument.

 

[petros]

Terrorist is just perspective.

To both Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union, the UIA were terrorists, to millions of others heroes.

 

[L Gilbert]

Terorrist is just perspective.

Yet it's clearly defined. Terrorism - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

 

[Cannuck]

Isn't warfare terrorism?

 

[petros]

Yet it's clearly defined. Terrorism - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

Were the UIA terrorists or heroes?

 

[L Gilbert]

Were the UIA terrorists or heroes?

Not sure to which you are referring : UIA - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[petros]

#2 on the list.

 

[L Gilbert]

#2 on the list.

Well, seeing as they were simply resisting other nations that were occupying their country, I'd suggest they were simply defending themselves against terrorists.

 

[petros]

Percepcion amigo....diversas definiciones.