2012 ryder cup

[Mowich]

Rock on Phil Mickelson.........way to go dude! That last shot from the tee ........................Wahoosie! Phil and the young fellow for the European team, Nicolas Colsaerts are my favs of the day. Phil seemed to be having so much fun out there, it was good to see him playing as well as he did - that shot from the trees was another one that had me cheering. Young Colsaerts was unbelievable - that birdie on the 17th hole! - the pressure he's under and he pulls off a shot like that - double Wahoosie!

Great day for golf. Great win USA - way to go dudes. :smile:

 

[Mowich]

Day 2 and the USA is still holding a lead over the Europeans. Phil Mickelson and Keegan Bradley won their round again today.

 

[talloola]

this tournament has lost much of its lustre for me, I like things to be very close, neck n neck all

the way, just as I do in hockey, however I will enjoy tomorrow, the singles matches, and I will

watch those for the individual talents of all players against each other, and forget about it being

the ryder cup.

too many players haven't played up to their own abilities, taking away from the excitement, i'm not

a person who wants to win at any cost, I like the process, the excitement and the battle, not much of

a battle going on any longer.

the euros would have to win everything this afternoon, to even have a slight

chance tomorrow.

 

[talloola]

the euros would have to win everything this afternoon, to even have a slight

chance tomorrow.

poulter is awsome, clutch.

 

[Kreskin]

Turning into a Sunday Euro romp. Quite the implosion by the US.

 

[Mowich]

Turning into a Sunday Euro romp. Quite the implosion by the US.

Unfrickin' believable come-back by the European Team! Way to Go Europe.

 

[Kreskin]

It was fun to watch. Isn't it funny how once something that is over you look back at it and consider all the chances the US had to put it away. Just somebody making one putt somewhere along the line was the difference. Or someone not making a putt. Rose's putt on 17 really gave Europe a chance. Furyk continues to wilt in the clutch. Stricker never did anything. Tiger had his moments but wasn't a factor. Speaking of Tiger, what is he, the #2 in the world right now? Him being put on the final group reminded me of Gretzky sitting on the bench during that Olympic shootout. Yes he lost the first few team matches but Stricker was of zero help.

 

[PoliticalNick]

Yeah I know they whined incessantly about Americans making noises... of course after they were on the wrong side of the biggest Ryder Cup Comeback in history. They were humiliated.

Sour Grapes.

Ahem. Tied for the biggest comeback in RC history. I bet the Americans are humiliated. ;-)

 

[talloola]

I was very happy to see the tournament get back on track, so that no team was humiliated. What I saw
was the best players in the world showing us 'just that', the best play they had to offer.

Of course someone has to win, and lose, so that was decided very late in the tournament with the
euros sinking great putts to get it done.

No humiliation for the u.s., it was win win for everyone, but of course the u.s. isn't happy they lost,
but they can hold their heads high, they played great, but were beaten by a team who played a little
better.

They exchanged victories in this tournament, the u.s., the first two days, and the euros
on sunday, but no one could guess the outcome till it was almost over.

I was happy to see the whole thing become fun to watch, great golf, wonderful sportsmanship from the
players as well as the fans, the only things that pissed me off was furyk whining at the very beginning
over McDowell's question about relief from the sprinkler head, he should have kept his whiny mouth
shut, and just waited for the official to make the call, no relief, fine, McDowell was good with that,
and play continued, but furyk looked looked a child trying to make something out of nothing.

A great victory of european golf, it will again become stronger, more kids starting to play, more
stars being born, that is good.

A very successful ryder cup, I didn't see any team packing it in as the tournament progressed, I
saw competetive, great shots, with one team inching the other out at the end, nothing more.

This was not an upset, all players are the top in the world.

congrats to both teams, looking forward to the next one in scotland in two years.

 

[Mowich]

Good post talloola.......pretty well what I saw unfold too. Probably one of the most exciting tourneys I've watched in a very long time. Watching Golf TV this morning and keep hearing that the state trooper who got Rory to the match on time should have the MVP trophy..LOL! It was just so much fun to watch as Kreskin mentioned in his post. And that it went on until the second last hole, tension building with every putt........thought I would pass out from lack of oxygen at times. :lol: Thought Furyk could have taken a bit more time on that short putt........heck there was still daylight left. ;-)
Really looking forward to Glen Eagles in 2014.

And I still think Phil is a very class act.

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[Kreskin]

I thought Furyk took too much time on his final putt. Where were the other players on 18? Every guy took too much real estate putting from the back. Couldn't someone have passed on an FYI? And I still find it odd that Tiger wasn't put early. It isn't like he has never played in pressure. He made one of golfs finest careers playing when the chips were down. Even when it looked like it was imperative to win a hole he hits the best shot of the day on 17.

 

[Mowich]

I thought Furyk took too much time on his final putt. Where were the other players on 18? Every guy took too much real estate putting from the back. Couldn't someone have passed on an FYI? And I still find it odd that Tiger wasn't put early. It isn't like he has never played in pressure. He made one of golfs finest careers playing when the chips were down. Even when it looked like it was imperative to win a hole he hits the best shot of the day on 17.

I might have felt a bit sorry for Furyk..................but I didn't. All that posturing made the choke seem all the sweeter - like get real dude.

The use to which Davis put Tiger and Strickner and the times that they were told to play is a part of the conversation on Golf Channel and on many sports pages today. I don't know enough about golf to have an opinion either way. I do have one thing to comment on...........a shot of Tiger after the tourney........sitting alone........knowing the camera was on him.........he looked right into the lens and then spit. Wasn't impressed at all. I thought Tiger had played well at times..........he took a couple of important holes for the team on day 1...........but he remains inconsistent.......you never know when he will be on or off. Unfortunately, whether placement, tees times or just Tiger not being up to it, this was not his best tourney.

I was happy to see the US team loosen up a bit after sitting like they were at a funeral for the first little while during the ceremonies............all of them that is but good old Phil who had a smile from start to finish for all the fans who had cheered both him and the team on. The US team deserves much credit for contributing to such an outstanding Ryder Cup..........there were so many great shots and great moments from both sides that helped make this a truly historic Ryder Cup. Well done to both teams.........well done.

 

[talloola]

I thought Furyk took too much time on his final putt. Where were the other players on 18? Every guy took too much real estate putting from the back. Couldn't someone have passed on an FYI? And I still find it odd that Tiger wasn't put early. It isn't like he has never played in pressure. He made one of golfs finest careers playing when the chips were down. Even when it looked like it was imperative to win a hole he hits the best shot of the day on 17.

it almost, and could have easily come down to tiger and molinari making the decision, just didn't quite get
that far, thats just golf.

 

[Kreskin]

But it didn't and maybe the best of all time didn't factor into the early momentum. People can complain about his more recent results but he is still one of the best in the world. Not many golfers in the tip two or three. To me it's a strategic blunder.

 

[talloola]

But it didn't and maybe the best of all time didn't factor into the early momentum. People can complain about his more recent results but he is still one of the best in the world. Not many golfers in the tip two or three. To me it's a strategic blunder.

I don't see it as a blunder at all. A little bit longer, two better putts by the u.s. just previous to
tiger and molanari, and the tiger twosome would have decided the outcome.

Doesn't matter what happens, there will always be second guessing, but I don't see any reason for that
at all.

At the post game press conference, they tried to jump all over davis for not playing mickelson/bradley
saturday afternoon, then phil jumped up, and made that statement saying that he had gone to davis and
told him 'not' to play them, as they were shooting their best in the morning, and wouldn't have it in the
afternoon, but davis could have told him to button his lip, and made them play anyway, he didn't do that,
so thats the way it went.

no fault to anyone.

 

[Kreskin]

Love said the young guys were hot, and that's why they led. Well the young guys choked.

 

[talloola]

Love said the young guys were hot, and that's why they led. Well the young guys choked.

its ridiculous to try to find blame here, no one knew what anyone was going to do, the young guys did
their thing early on, the euros did their thing later on, so what, there is no guarantee with anyone,
there is no blame on anyone, there is no strategy, there is no reason to be dissapointed in this
ryder cup, it was very good entertainment, from all angles, it was good for everyone, no one was
embarrassed, but there was a few heros, poulter for one, he was steadfast and solid and no one could
shake him out of what he wanted to do, so good for him.

it is a game, it is golf, the winner here is the game.

it is too bad when a person can only see 'one' side, and what they want that 'one side' to do, it is
much more clear and realistic when one sees the game from all sides, for the love of the game, and
not with great expectations of the outcome.

I wanted the euros to win, but that certainly wasn't my priority, as I stated before I wanted to see a
battle, and it turned out to be a great battle, with both sides competing well, and the outcome wasn't
known till it was almost over, that is how it should be, I was satisfied, but on saturday, I wasn't
satisfied at all, it was far too lopsided, but then the euros began to play how they can.

They are all great players, and 'they' understand how these things play out better than any of us, it
was very clear at the press conferences.

They don't use the word 'choke', that is for angry people who are pouting because
their side didn't win, and can't see the reality of the whole tournament.

 

[Kreskin]

Tiger is held to a higher standard, so much so that even when he's better than nearly everyone he's not good enough.

Those guys playing ahead of him have had very little experience under that pressure. And it showed.

 

[PoliticalNick]

Tiger is held to a higher standard, so much so that even when he's better than nearly everyone he's not good enough.

Those guys playing ahead of him have had very little experience under that pressure. And it showed.

Yea, he only won 3 times this year, he Su ks! :roll:

It doesn't matter if Mcilroy is #1 in the rankings, it doesn't matter if the 'tigger' hasn't won a major in a while. The PGA tour is still 200 guys chasing a tiger's tail.

 

[talloola]

that thinking is straight from the media, who try to put thoughts in all of our heads, but I think
for myself, and won't buy into their hype.

tiger is coming back from two injuries which put him out of contention for a long time, swing changes,
and his little romp on the sleezy side of town, many times.

he can contend now, he is playing well, and did all year, but there are other good young players out
there too, and they aren't intimidated by much of anything, or they wouldn't get there in the
first place.

tiger is 37 now, his best years are behind him, but he will be competetive for awhile yet, and he may
even win another major, but I don't see him dominating like he did before, although what he did
before has produced all of the great young players we see now, and that is good.

tiger let a few years slip away by behaving like an idiot, by making too many swing changes, and no
fault of his own, his injuries, and his body doesn't seem to be doing him any favours of late, one can
see that he is on the verge of another injury every once in a while, so he might be out of circulation
again soon.

the new young players are 'fearless' and ready for anything at anytime, they are a new generation,
they are sassy, unafraid and don't bow down to anyone, they aren't afraid of tiger or anyone else.
They are real athletes, they want the money, and they are going after it.

Tiger is maturing into a different type of person, he is more humble now, more friendly, he tries to act
like the arrogant, poker faced intimidating player he use to be, but the young guys aren't buying it,
they don't care, they want the power, the money and the limelight too.

Life goes on, no one is indespensable, we all know that, tiger is no different.

And, there is many more than one young very good player, any of them can rise to the top at any time, then
another, and another, I love it.

And behind the great young players we are now seeing, there are many more just waiting to arrive on the
scene, the competition for a spot on the pga is huge, just watch the web.com tour a few times, one of the
hardest tours to win on, and full of up n coming great players, better than ever before.

Players can have very good rounds on the web.com all week end, and not make the cut, the play is awsome.

Tiger is just one of the pga players, one of the best, only he isn't young anymore, in the golf world.