I saw a few years ago a story about a coyote chasing a roadrunner, the coyote fell off a cliff and a 5 ton weight landed on his head, he got up and ran away.
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I saw a few years ago a story about a coyote chasing a roadrunner, the coyote fell off a cliff and a 5 ton weight landed on his head, he got up and ran away.
The Bear is right. It is the Pawn Shop that is on the hook for buying stolen property when it is found to be in their posession.
Oh that was great!
As i said,here in quebec,it is NOT like in the US,i don't know why but quebec laws are ****ed up.
No. You were fed a bunch of BS by someone that doesn't know what they were talking about. TV talk shows are not always a good source of information.
Tell that to the store owner who found one of his instruments in a pawn shop.
BTW pawn shop here in quebec are owned by not so honest people.
Like pawn shops everywhere. I once found one of my powersaws in a pawn shop. The owner said I had to pay for it. I called him a thief and asked if he wanted to be charged with selling stolen property while there were several people in his store and walked out with the saw.
There would be more to it for a rental company to prove ownership because they also sell their stock so having their sticker on a guitar is not proof of ownership.
From what i heard when someone goes selling something in a pawn shop,apparently he has to show a proof of ownership,but i guess its a suggestion.
If someone were to do what you did here,he'd be arrested by the cops.
I do remember hearing that law in Quebec follows the Napoleanic Code rather than the British tradition, there are bound to be differences.
As I understand it one does not sell things to a pawn shop; what pawn shops do is provide short term loans and take goods as collateral. Once the term of the loan is ended and the repayment of the loan is due, they shop can sell the items to recoup their money if the loan has not been repaid.
But stolen property is stolen property. The problem becomes proving that a specific item is stolen. Items that have a serial number of some kind are more easily identifiable, items without one are less identifiable. But if the police have the serial number for items listed in a police report they most certainly can seize the property from anyone. They have to, to my understanding. I don't know what program you were watching but I'd hazard to guess that the individual was not able to prove to a sufficient standard that the property belonged to him.
Stolen property would fall under criminal law though not civil law.
The police can seize the property. Neither I nor anyone else has said that and individual can just walk in and take it.
Bottom line, and the point that is trying to be made, is that, although many pawn shop owners may well be scum, the law is not different in Quebec on this matter. The criminal code is federal.
Then that says to me that they obviously could not prove to a legal standard that they owned the property.
That is always a possibility. Thieves do tend to stick together.
What the cops say is largely irrelevant, it is what the courts says that counts.
What it comes down to is this. You have made unsubstantiated statements. You have been called on it. Now, you either back up your statements with proof, of you continue on your present road and risk being thought of as someone that really doesn't have a clue what they are talking about and is constantly posting unsubstantiated bullshyte.
Ball is now in your court.
The criminal code is Federal, as SLM stated.
Civil property laws vary mildly.
Theft is theft, if you can show proof that the property is yours. The police have absolutely no choice but to act. Federal seizure statutes allow them to take possession of the property in question, under grounds of probable cause.
What they do with it after the fact depends on whether the case is closed or open.
As has been pointed out, the criminal code is Federal.
Bullsh!t.
Bullsh!t.
the federal criminal code possibly applies,but quebec want to decide if its gonna apply it,or use the quebec way.
BTW 2 years ago some waste of DNA robbed me,the cops caught him fast,but as usual with quebec laws,the best the cops could do is "watch him"
so since that time i say criminal had it better that honest people,which is why sometime i wonder if life is worth it.
BTW 2 years ago some waste of DNA robbed me,the cops caught him fast,but as usual with quebec laws,the best the cops could do is "watch him"
so since that time i say criminal had it better that honest people,which is why sometime i wonder if life is worth it.
It doesn't 'possibly' apply, it simply does. As do Federal statutes on search and seizure, probable cause and the Charter of Rights as applicable to criminal law.
Police are mandated to act upon the commission of a crime. Possession of stolen property, is a crime.
Knock that silly sh!t off.
Absolutely wrong, IF you have reported the items stolen to the proper police agency, you can get them back without spending a dime.