Iran - No need for war

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Goober

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Iran - No need for war.
Yes - Their program for nukes is well on its way- bombing would only delay it. Israel already has nukes. And subs armed with Nukes.

But sanctions should only increase- Assets seized - Companies CEO and others that knowingly contravene or circumvent the sanctions should be subject to significant jail sentences.

Loss of Contracts from Countries enforcing the sanctions.

Sanctions to continue until it is clear that Iran is and has no nuclear weapons capability.

No going on for years as the west did with Iraq- Same with the years of negotiations with Iran and their non cooperation with the IAEA.

Only way for sanctions to be lifted is with the EU - UK- France- Germany and the Security council in a unanimous vote- 1 dissenting country keeps the sanction in place.

Why go to war to slow the inevitable.

Cut all immigration from Iran

All Govt. Officials Persona Non Grata in the countries enforcing sanction

All Military denied access to those countries.

All Iranian Companies denied any access to those countries

No exports of any goods to Iran. That includes humanitarian goods.


http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/0...isastrous-war-with-iran-netanyahus-ex-deputy/

The former general and defence minister said he thought Israel could not do anything to force a strategic change in Iran’s nuclear program, which the West suspects is aimed at producing atomic weapons. Tehran says it is for peaceful purposes.
 
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Liberalman

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In what way?

Glenn Beck. This is why he is merging with the Blaze just to go stealth with his name so he won't be a target because of his revolutionary messages where he is advocating that Americans take bake their country from the socialists and the Muslim brotherhood and some Americans are taking up the cause and killing people in mosques.
 

BaalsTears

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In what way?
The political culture has devolved into a level of conflict unseen in America within living memory. There are two sides attempting to impose their will upon each other. The last time the country was in this position was during the era of dissension between Free Soil Labor and Slave Staters. It's a struggle over the course of America between irreconcilable groups with nothing in common. But this time, neither side will win. Instead the forces of history will work their will upon the country.
 

BaalsTears

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Glenn Beck. This is why he is merging with the Blaze just to go stealth with his name so he won't be a target because of his revolutionary messages where he is advocating that Americans take bake their country from the socialists and the Muslim brotherhood and some Americans are taking up the cause and killing people in mosques.

I just don't agree. Look at American popular culture. Look at the American public schools. Look at American political culture. Look at the crumbling infrastructure. Look at the gangbanger multiculturalism. Look at out of control illegal immigration. Glenn Beck isn't responsible for these things except to the extent that all Americans share responsiblility.

America sits on an ocean of energy, but has become dependent on Saudi Arabian oil. That's because no agreement is possible to exploit American resources. Instead, America sends its money overseas to a dictatorship run by fuzzy wuzzies.
 

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Right wingers always say the Federal government should never intervene in domestic affairs. By that same "logic" it has no business getting involved in foreign affairs as well. Therefore, whatever Iran chooses to do inside of its borders is of no concern to us or anybody else.
 

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Four Asian countries are now purchasing nearly all of Iran’s oil exports according a report this week from the Economist’s Intelligence Unit

China is now estimated to purchase roughly 50% of Iran’s total oil exports despite having decreased its oil imports from Tehran by 23% year-on-year through the first 11 months of 2012.

India has similarly seen its reliance on Iranian crude decline sharply, with year-on-year imports down 17% in the first 8 months of 2012. Indian officials have also suggested they plan to cut imports by an additional 10-15% in 2013.

Both South Korea and Japan reduced their oil imports from the Islamic Republic by around 40% in the first 11 months of 2012 and pledged further reductions in 2013. Seoul has implied it could decrease its year-on-year imports by as much as 20% through the first six months of this year ending in May.

A U.S. sanctions bill signed into law by President Obama on December 31, 2011 cuts off access to the U.S. financial system to any entity conducting business with Iran’s central bank—which is the country’s primary mechanism for processing oil payments—along with other large Iranian banks. The legislation does allow the Obama administration to grant three-month renewable waivers to countries that continuously reduce their crude purchases from Iran. China, India, South Korea, and Japan have been granted two waivers since the sanctions went into effect in July 2012.

Meanwhile, the EU passed a boycott that prohibits any member state from purchasing oil from Iran. More burdensome for Iran, EU sanctions also prohibit European maritime insurance companies—which dominate the industry—from insuring oil tankers carrying Iranian crude, which has forced Iran to cover the insurance costs itself in order to convince its few remaining customers to continue purchasing crude. These remaining customers have also demanded significant price concessions from Iran in order to continue their economic relations with the Islamic Republic, reducing the revenue Iran receives on the oil it can sell.

The situation is only likely to worsen for Iran in the months ahead. To begin with, global energy trends and continued sluggish economic growth make it easier for Western nations to sustain the sanctions without causing a spike in energy prices.

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Asia is Purchasing Nearly all of Iran’s Oil