Scarborough shootings: Two killed, 19 injured
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You got that right - more and more places every year............it's not just the lower mainland and Prince George any more!
That is true - that problem is running rampant and has for 20 years. (If you know something and are scared sh*tless about retaliation all it takes is an anonymous note to the cops dropped in a mailbox)
3.5 million is it not?
Regina, SK I believe has usually been the per capita murder capital of Canada.
Exactly.
I've lived in mid-Scarborough since 1997. There have been reports of crime (the big picture - gang related crime) going and sometimes very close to me but it sure doesn't involve me. Other than tackling a shoplifter that hit a girl, I've not been part-of anything.
The scary stuff we hear about is almost always black-on-black crime, almost always drug, gang or pseudo-gang related. That's the reality.
Ya, number of the day depending on the suburb involved. i've lived in Scarborough, Downtown & Durham GTA. It's safe... if you're going to get shot, chances are you're hanging in gang territory. Not that should be acceptable but seriously, avoid it. These thugs respect no one, they can't shoot straight and will more often then not kill bystanders.
I'm not normally one to drop the race card but that is exactly what it is. These kids grow up with piss poor familes, raised by rap videos and they think the way to move on in life in "thuggin" and not to mention the "no snitching" enforced in the neighborhoods, it's doomed.
I do not see Toronto or any other major city as being inherently unsafe. What i do see is misguided social workers and activists telling us that more social benefits will alleviate what is a problem relating to parenting in the modern age, most specifically ignorant babies having babies.
There are far far too many people who grew up in poverty then went on to be successful to blame the lack of money, opportunity, and handouts alone.
Does anyone really believe that it was easy to overcome poverty (btw, i note they all have iphones) in the "old days" say 50's 60's? In the early 60's my parents were barely getting by, my father partially disabled (war related) and my mother in an ongoing battle with various Cancers and no government help or welfare by (personal choice) so i had to leave home with nothing to take a job working for peanuts on a farm, then wait until i could find an isolated northern job that payed decent. Stay there without going home every month like some to blow money until i had enough to attend a trade school. There was no government help with that at all, no student loans, no UIC cum EI backing me and certainly not welfare cum social services.
Are some of these "groups" so ignorant that they cannot see the obvious? Perhaps it is easier to whine for government help. My parents may not have had much but they had the sense to inform me of my choices, no matter how tough, and raised me to tough it out.
Congratulations "social activists" and ala Spock child raisers, you have pretty much eliminated the drive and will to succeed, then named it progress.
There are far far too many people who grew up in poverty then went on to be successful to blame the lack of money, opportunity, and handouts alone.
Does anyone really believe that it was easy to overcome poverty (btw, i note they all have iphones) in the "old days" say 50's 60's? In the early 60's my parents were barely getting by, my father partially disabled (war related) and my mother in an ongoing battle with various Cancers and no government help or welfare by (personal choice) so i had to leave home with nothing to take a job working for peanuts on a farm, then wait until i could find an isolated northern job that payed decent. Stay there without going home every month like some to blow money until i had enough to attend a trade school. There was no government help with that at all, no student loans, no UIC cum EI backing me and certainly not welfare cum social services.
Are some of these "groups" so ignorant that they cannot see the obvious? Perhaps it is easier to whine for government help. My parents may not have had much but they had the sense to inform me of my choices, no matter how tough, and raised me to tough it out.
Congratulations "social activists" and ala Spock child raisers, you have pretty much eliminated the drive and will to succeed, then named it progress.
Me neither but we both know that's what it is in most cases. I live and work in a largely Tamil area and even these folks know what's what.
There are always gonna be isolated gun-crime incidents sure but this pathetic wannabe tough guy environment that many black guys are raised in defeats them. No community 'leader' seems to want to step-up, become the voices of reason and common sense. The future for them is bleak.
It's messed up, I wouldn't even know where to begin with the ****. Thing is if the cops start extra watching the area, the community calls outs profiling and if someone gets shot, they don't do enough.
Even children learn young what buttons to push when they have no answer for an honest question. The race card is one of those buttons used by many to escape simple truth. What that does is set them aside from society rather than their becoming.
There has never been any doubt about what should be done. That is not to use the race card in attaching blame but to look at what are the causes.
This is, as I wrote earlier, the inevitable outcome of the reduction of services and outlets for the youth. The idiot mayor of Toronto is still spouting jobs, jobs, when he and his kind are the chief cause for their ideological negligence. Children do not need jobs but their parents do. Children need paces to be children and to do childrens' things. Those places, never plentiful, are disappearing as the money to maintain them dries up.things that our governments have paid no attention too (in the
The parents do need jobs and the Right Wing grip that has had the country in thrall for those thirty years is largely to blame for that, too. Globalisation, lack of policies to deal with technologically caused redundancies, deliberate downsizings and greater pressure on those who retain their jobs, are just a few of the problems our Right Wing governments have ignored (as to their consequences) for a generation.
They have sown the wind in their greed and divisiveness.
This is, as I wrote earlier, the inevitable outcome of the reduction of services and outlets for the youth. The idiot mayor of Toronto is still spouting jobs, jobs, when he and his kind are the chief cause for their ideological negligence. Children do not need jobs but their parents do. Children need paces to be children and to do childrens' things. Those places, never plentiful, are disappearing as the money to maintain them dries up.things that our governments have paid no attention too (in the
The parents do need jobs and the Right Wing grip that has had the country in thrall for those thirty years is largely to blame for that, too. Globalisation, lack of policies to deal with technologically caused redundancies, deliberate downsizings and greater pressure on those who retain their jobs, are just a few of the problems our Right Wing governments have ignored (as to their consequences) for a generation.
They have sown the wind in their greed and divisiveness.
Ahhh...more money for blacks it is then. :lol:
No other ethnic group seems to be shooting itself and others up over drugs, dissing and penis-envy.
Asians, East Asians, Arabs, or even poor white trash. Something fishy is going on with their children, parents and work ethic. I'm stumped. :lol:
No other ethnic group seems to be shooting itself and others up over drugs, dissing and penis-envy.
Asians, East Asians, Arabs, or even poor white trash. Something fishy is going on with their children, parents and work ethic. I'm stumped. :lol:
OK, I'm going to agree with you- sometimes emotions cloud the facts, likewise it is not always totally prudent to tell the unvarnished truth, especially at a time when many people aren't prepared to hear it. My guess is that 24 hours after the incident most people are more concerned with addressing the problem and grieving for the victims. I have grand daughters the same age as the female victim and had it have been me the last thing I would want to hear is some air head blabbing off about how safe things are. :smile:
Nonsense! There is no colour divide on this. And it is the whole of our society that needs to be adjusted. Think for example of Harper's purchase of votes with his 'tax credits for sports and a couple of others." It is estimated that one third of Canadian children can not participate in organises sport and the others are out of the reach of more, because they do not have the financial means.
But, those that pay taxes among them contribute through their taxes to the recreation of their more affluent peers.
and they are not all Black. There is where the delinquency begins.
Not really. The stats that we aren't supposed to talk about, say otherwise.
In Toronto there is.
Think for example of McSquinty's million dollar bribes to East Indies cricket clubs.
No, that was when PET opened immigration to poorer, less educated people, without the services and infrastructure in place to accept them.
There seems to be a trend with these shootings, Eaton Center and the Scarborough shootings.. they were all perpetrated by immigrants to Canada.
This last shooting was in a heavily immigrant populated area..
I really hope we are not importing this violence into Canada, because we will only have ourselves to blame, when certain area's of Toronto (other than Jane and Finch, which is past hope) will resemble the streets of Haiti and Jamaica.
This last shooting was in a heavily immigrant populated area..
I really hope we are not importing this violence into Canada, because we will only have ourselves to blame, when certain area's of Toronto (other than Jane and Finch, which is past hope) will resemble the streets of Haiti and Jamaica.