Anarchy 101
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Sorry. Missed it. I'm at a weird point in my life, & seem to be missing
a lot of stuff that doesn't happen to pop up on this Forum. You where
there. Did you see many wearing masks to hid their identity (just out'a
curiosity) seeing as this went down peacefully?
Let me quote myself.
On a serious note, I think most of Quebec's education system is payed for by Quebecers with provincial income tax, which is pretty high.
No masks at all. Lots of families. Lots of children. The media aren't so interested in THAT type of protest. Too gentle. No story to tell...
I don't want to know what you "think". I want to know if the reason Quebec can subsidize their higher education is because of the ROC.. I want to know the facts.
Weirdly, at tax time, with the program I was using to figure out my
taxes and get an idea as to how much I'd need to spend in RRSP's
to offset things....I started playing with the provincial settings.
For what I paid in income tax, living in Saskatchewan, I'd get back
all of $54.00 out'a the close to $13,000 I paid. If I changed the Prov
from Sask to Quebec (without changing anything else at all), I would
have got back something like $3400.00 or so. Weird, eh?
Ya...weird isn't it.I wonder if slone can explain how that is possible if Quebec has the highest income taxes.......
Let's start with this.
0-$39,060 16%
$39,060 -$78,120 20%
$78,120 - 24%
What's the income tax in your province?
flat 10%.... and yet...... Quebec needs to be subsidized by the ROC.... why is that? Quebecers too stupid when it comes to handling their finances?
Sorry for the sidetrack, but seeing as you where at the Earth Day thing,
& it was peacefull, did you see many hiding their faces behind scarves
and masks?
What are you waiting to move here? You'd be rich in no time!!! And your kids (if you have some) would get cheap education.
That would make Ontario, Manitoba, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia and PEI stupid too I guess. We will all have received equalization payments for 2012-2013.
That's more than half of Canadian provinces on the stupid side. I guess there's no hope for this country.
Per capita, Quebec is receiving less than all of the ''have-not'' provinces except Ontario.
One thing to be remembered about equalization. Whatever the amount of money Canada makes in a year, there will ALWAYS be provinces who make less than others. In other words, we could all be filthy rich and still have equalization transfers.
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Not doing bad at all myself out here. Anyway....Earth day & Masks....
Did you see many at that peacefully gathering of 250,000 folks?
...& yes I have a 24yr old Son, & he's doing well too. If he wanted to
proceed with a post secondary education, I'd make damb sure he
got what he needed, however I needed to do it. Same with my
Daughter-in-Law. They could live rent free in my rental suite, & I'd
help float their financial boat to get them through the process. It's
just what you do. It would be cheaper for me to remorgage my
home at 4% than either of them to pay 9-10% in student loans.
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Guess my old man was right, quebecois aren't all that smart, and expect everything to be given to them.
You just don't get it...do ya..... and the rest of your compatriots are the same way. Too damn ignorant and arrogant to know, or give a shyte about how the ROC feel about having to constantly subsidize you and not have what you all get. What you all get on the backs of the tax payers from the ROC.
This will become the way of the future not just for education but other problems
as well. Unfortunately the bills are coming due for a host of issues. No I don't
think violence is the answer to any of this. Whether or not student fees are the
lowest in Canada is not the issue. The real problem is across the country we
ten to view education as an expense rather than an investment in the future
that benefits society as a whole.
Unrest and violence comes when total frustration and anger is given no avenue
to vent. The problem is society let people believe we could all go on living above
our means without consequences.
as well. Unfortunately the bills are coming due for a host of issues. No I don't
think violence is the answer to any of this. Whether or not student fees are the
lowest in Canada is not the issue. The real problem is across the country we
ten to view education as an expense rather than an investment in the future
that benefits society as a whole.
Unrest and violence comes when total frustration and anger is given no avenue
to vent. The problem is society let people believe we could all go on living above
our means without consequences.
Money. Or more specifically the taxpayers inability to loose more from paycheques and still pay the rent. Post secondary education is just one of a long list of things that various groups want someone other than themselves to pay for.
$6G a year is dirt cheap. That is one months take home pay for anyone that has an ounce of ambition. Can't just sit in your parent's basement playing games all day and parting all night being a freeloader complaining that the government is mean though.
Or look at it this way $6G is a car payment. It is all about priorities.
No it is not, at least not if you are a taxpayer.
The idea behind public funding of post secondary education is that one will pay for one's education through the taxes payed throughout one's life. A diploma gives you access to better jobs and thus leads you to becoming a tax payer. Those who end up becoming tax payers are the ones who benefited from post secondary education.
That diploma/degree is worthless if the recipient has invested nothing to achieve it... We might as well just hand them out and get rid of the actual school all together