How about them Canucks!

talloola

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Canucks look awful.

thats a pretty general statement, as they didn't look awful the whole game, and montreal didn't look
good the whole game, montreal stepped up big time with a two goal lead, played solid defensive hockey
and skated home with the win.

I am wondering though, about luongo again, and also i'm curious what vineault is going to do about it.
don't know what he can do about the twins, shove booster rockets up their 'rears' is all I can suggest,
and give them knuckle dusters, and show them how to use them. lol (just kidding, I think)
 

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thats a pretty general statement, as they didn't look awful the whole game, and montreal didn't look
good the whole game, montreal stepped up big time with a two goal lead, played solid defensive hockey
and skated home with the win.

I am wondering though, about luongo again, and also i'm curious what vineault is going to do about it.
don't know what he can do about the twins, shove booster rockets up their 'rears' is all I can suggest,
and give them knuckle dusters, and show them how to use them. lol (just kidding, I think)

I really thought the Canucks were well in control for the first two periods and had it been someone other than Carey Price in goal they would have had a commanding lead after two. I let my grand daughter watch the idiot box during the 3rd period and followed it on the net to my chagrin. Don't know, Talloola, the shine is definitely off the rose- perhaps karma for me bad mouthing Timmy all the time. :lol:
 

#juan

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The game is getting a bit down and dirty in the run for the playoffs. The chippy play and the seeming indifference of the refs is becoming palpable. Are the twins not working as hard? Are their multi-millionaire bank accounts getting heavy? Is Luongo getting to be a sieve? I honestly don't know. They did look bloody awful last night.
 

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Luongo's great if the defense keep all shots to the perimeter and they all hit him square in the logo. He's one of the world's best under those conditions.
 

talloola

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Luongo's great if the defense keep all shots to the perimeter and they all hit him square in the logo. He's one of the world's best under those conditions.

He looked just awful on that second goal, he stopped the first shot, then totally lost focus, and wasn't prepared for the second one right after, looked very bad.

The longer the problem continues with the first line the worse things will get, that is the line that
leads the team, that is the line that should shine, that is the line that is suppose to score the
most points, that is the line with the two 'art ross' trophy winners, that is the line that will be
targeted the most, that is the line that also can bring the team to its knees when they stop leading.

The second line is suppose to complement the first, and they certainly can, but right now that line
has to be the top line, and they aren't quite there, the chemistry on that line isn't quite in sinc.
but if the top line was playing properly, then they would feel more relaxed and contribute better.

I listened to team 1040 after the game, it is amusing because all of a sudden it is full of callers
they don't usually hear from, one guy wanted vineault fired, said the 3rd and 4th lines are just
plumbers, and the first two lines are checkers, very wierd, and very stupid.
The mix of opinions, if all were blended together couldn't coach a pup hockey team. lol

Vineault and his coaches and gillis have done everything possible for this team to prepare them
to face 'anything', but they can't go on the ice and do it. These are grown men, athletes professional
hockey players, not children.

I would like to be a fly on the wall in the next couple of days when they sit together and discuss
this team and try to figure it all out.

My opinion is: the top line has dissapeared and 'again', seems to be, luongo becoming inconsistent, and even through
his long run of great goaltending, I have never relaxed and am always just waiting for him to lose
his composure, become panicky, and it is happening again, I don't trust him to lead this team
anywhere, but he could be a very good back-up goalie, 'hint hint'.

I don't think they played well at all in the second period last night, I thought
they were fine in the first, but nothing happened, no flow,and they were terrible in the third.
They faded badly in the last five minutes, and montreal carried it home very easily.

Yes, the officiating has definitely changed, but it is the same for all teams, so they will have to
adjust, and if the heavy physical play ramps up for playoffs, then it is a game of attrition and
whomever can continue without injury, and keep good goalkeeping will survive.
 

Kreskin

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The Canucks are an average team and we all need to lower our expectations of them.
 

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Last night the arrogant crew got their hides handed to them by the Montreal Canadians
and I was truly happy, I am hoping the Canucks go out in the second round at least.
 

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I listened to team 1040 after the game, it is amusing because all of a sudden it is full of callers
they don't usually hear from, one guy wanted vineault fired, said the 3rd and 4th lines are just
plumbers, and the first two lines are checkers, very wierd, and very stupid.
The mix of opinions, if all were blended together couldn't coach a pup hockey team. lol

Vineault and his coaches and gillis have done everything possible for this team to prepare them
to face 'anything', but they can't go on the ice and do it. These are grown men, athletes professional
hockey players, not children.

I would like to be a fly on the wall in the next couple of days when they sit together and discuss
this team and try to figure it all out.

My opinion is: the top line has dissapeared and 'again', seems to be, luongo becoming inconsistent, and even through
his long run of great goaltending, I have never relaxed and am always just waiting for him to lose
his composure, become panicky, and it is happening again, I don't trust him to lead this team
anywhere, but he could be a very good back-up goalie, 'hint hint'.

I don't think they played well at all in the second period last night, I thought
they were fine in the first, but nothing happened, no flow,and they were terrible in the third.
They faded badly in the last five minutes, and montreal carried it home very easily.

Yes, the officiating has definitely changed, but it is the same for all teams, so they will have to
adjust, and if the heavy physical play ramps up for playoffs, then it is a game of attrition and
whomever can continue without injury, and keep good goalkeeping will survive.

Yeah, people can be fickle that way, they're in a slump right now, but even so still around .500 and still haven't lost 3 in a row this year- not many teams can make that claim. Boston (who many of the uninformed think is better than the Canucks) has gone right in the sewer and the Rangers are on their way. Expectations from the Sedins has to be reduced and more expectations from the likes of Burrows, Kesler, Raymond and Higgins.

Last night the arrogant crew got their hides handed to them by the Montreal Canadians
and I was truly happy, I am hoping the Canucks go out in the second round at least.

WHY? They played lousy for 21 minutes of one game!
 

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Last night the arrogant crew got their hides handed to them by the Montreal Canadians
and I was truly happy, I am hoping the Canucks go out in the second round at least.

Arrogant? Just what makes you say that? For sure the Canucks have some 'arrogant' fans but the team itself? - methinks you have some issues, DG. :roll:
 

talloola

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The Canucks are an average team and we all need to lower our expectations of them.

Yes, those are my thoughts as well, they have their great games, but the consistency has fallen off, so
I am happy to enjoy them for what they are now, and I'm not going to hope for something that they
now will not be able to reach.

All teams come to the end of great stretches and have to regroup and partially start over, perhaps this
is that time for canucks, and I am allready excited about possibilities for next season, and wondering if
they can figure out how to keep schneider and move luongo out somehow.

If they do turn it around and do well, I will enjoy it, but no dissapointments for
me either way, I have better things to do than let the game of hockey make me
unhappy, its just a game that I love, and I will always enjoy it, I love the
process more than I love the results, winning is fun, but its not everything.

I have no bad feelings for any team, but do have some left over feelings from boston finals, but even
those are fading away, as boston is in the east, doesn't have much to do with us anymore, and I don't
really care what happens to them, I am thinking much more about detroit, st. louis, nashville and chicago as those are the western conference teams right now, doesn't really matter what position they are in, in the conference, they are all
capable ot beating each other, and after last night san jose is sitting in 9th
place, that might not last long, but what a surprise, they are having their problems.

Does anyone who comes here to chat about our canucks also go into other sites and trash teams, as I
don't really understand that kind of thinking, don't really know where people get their hatred for other
peoples teams, I don't go into other's team sites, maybe I will start just to see what kind of posts they
receive, I am curious.

Arrogant? Just what makes you say that? For sure the Canucks have some 'arrogant' fans but the team itself? - methinks you have some issues, DG. :roll:

Isn't he the same guy who hates the lions, yes, he does have some issues.

Last night the arrogant crew got their hides handed to them by the Montreal Canadians
and I was truly happy, I am hoping the Canucks go out in the second round at least.

why not the first, are you afraid of being extatic.
 
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Time for this thread to get a little more interesting and hear from posters which team at this point they think are going to win the Stanley Cup. I'm sticking with the Canucks for now, the only team who has really out acheived them of late is St. Louis the rest are suffering from the Doldrums of late. Canucks have the players with the potential and two better than average goal tenders.

Last night the arrogant crew got their hides handed to them by the Montreal Canadians
and I was truly happy, I am hoping the Canucks go out in the second round at least.

I can't understand your way of thinking- they are our team and for the most part have excelled over the past couple of years. I don't notice any particularly obnoxious players on the team, about the worst that can be said about them is Rome and Bieksa take a few too many penalties. Even the least productive (in goals and assists) work hard and contribute. So perhaps you can spell out just exactly what is "so arrogant" about them. There are 30 teams, so none of them can really be expected to win a Stanley Cup in any given year.
 

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Time for this thread to get a little more interesting and hear from posters which team at this point they think are going to win the Stanley Cup. I'm sticking with the Canucks for now, the only team who has really out acheived them of late is St. Louis the rest are suffering from the Doldrums of late. Canucks have the players with the potential and two better than average goal tenders.

Great idea, JLM. As Pittsburgh is the team I have cheered for since Sid became a member of the team, I will go with them just for arguments sake though I think the Canucks have as good if not better chance considering how Detroit is doing right now. St Louis has been outstanding lately and I really like Mighty Mouse aka Martie St Louis - for such a little guy, he sure can play.

Let the arguments begin. :smile:
 

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The Canucks are only a few points out of first place over all. One solution to get them out of the current slump might be to draft the six best defensemen in the NHL. Since there would be a lot of opposition to that, my next suggestion would be to play the best d-men we have and start Schneider in the net. I get the feeling the team plays better in front of Schneider. I also wish coach V. would leave the lines alone. I've seen the new guys now and it doesn't look like they are going to be saviors of any kind. Pahlsson is very defensively responsible and appears to be the pick of that group. The others are quite young and will grow into better players. Right now the team is suffering and the new guys should only be getting spot duty here and there.
 

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The Canucks are only a few points out of first place over all. One solution to get them out of the current slump might be to draft the six best defensemen in the NHL. Since there would be a lot of opposition to that, my next suggestion would be to play the best d-men we have and start Schneider in the net. I get the feeling the team plays better in front of Schneider. I also wish coach V. would leave the lines alone. I've seen the new guys now and it doesn't look like they are going to be saviors of any kind. Pahlsson is very defensively responsible and appears to be the pick of that group. The others are quite young and will grow into better players. Right now the team is suffering and the new guys should only be getting spot duty here and there.

I think vineault will have lots of troubles making line decisions until the first line either tanks, or
gets back to what they are suppose to do.

I think he was waiting for higgins to get himself back to 100% health, which he seems to be now, and
the second line is definitely his spot, and actually at the moment he is the best player on that line.

He did have to try kassian here and there, and now he has come back to earth and does show at times how
young and experienced he is, this is his first year in the NHL, and until he came to canucks he was up
and down in buffalo, so yes, I agree, he needs some time.

I like marc-andre grandnani a lot, he is wired very tight, lots of confidence, not afraid to skate everywhere, so all they need to do with him, is reign him a bit, not too much, so they have some idea
where he is going to be on the ice, because he wants to be everywhere at once, and he came from the
AHL, so he was probably their best defenceman, and did what he wanted there, so now he needs to know
that most of the other players are as good or better than he is, and he will be fine. lol
I like he and tanev together, they could have a great future on the same line.

Not sure what has happened to edler, he has had so many brain 'farts' lately that he seems to be very
frazzled, and he needs to relax a bit, and get himself together, and remember how he can really play.

Pahlsson is doing exactly what they knew he would do, that is his game, and has been for a long time.
He is a defensive forward, and nothing like the other two at all, and wasn't expected to be.

Burrows never has been 'twinkle toes' on skates but lately he has fallen down so many times he must be
black and blue all over, and I think it is because he is trying too hard to make that line play better,
so he needs to relax a bit too, as it is the twins who need to snap out of it, and when they decide
to remember how they should play, then burrows will fall into line and complement them again.

Wish Ballard was healthy now, so he could return, don't know how long he will be out. They have to play
grandnani 10 games before the end of the season so that he doesn't become a class 6 ufa, (unrestricted
free agent)so after the 10
games he will remain a rfa,(restricted free agent) and canucks won't lose him at the end of the season.
I don't understand your- draft the best defencemen - to get out of current slump,
what am I missing there.
They have Kevin Connaughton in chicago, a very good defenseman, he is young too,
but we will see him on the canucks soon, maybe next season, or maybe even in the
playoffs, not sure.


Don't have a clue how the western conference will be when the dust settles, as anyone, including the
canucks could come out of the west, no point in guessing.

The east is a bit easier, rangers,pittsburg,boston, philly, new jersey, and even ottawa, but at the moment,
pittsburg, rangers, and new jersey are really rolling, rangers have a few losses recently, but they are
still a big threat.

Don't have a clue about this conference either.
 
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#juan

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My little thing about drafting the best defensemen was a joke.....not a very good joke obviously.
 

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My little thing about drafting the best defensemen was a joke.....not a very good joke obviously.

oops sorry, went right over my head. ---

Time for this thread to get a little more interesting and hear from posters which team at this point they think are going to win the Stanley Cup. I'm sticking with the Canucks for now, the only team who has really out acheived them of late is St. Louis the rest are suffering from the Doldrums of late. Canucks have the players with the potential and two better than average goal tenders.



I can't understand your way of thinking- they are our team and for the most part have excelled over the past couple of years. I don't notice any particularly obnoxious players on the team, about the worst that can be said about them is Rome and Bieksa take a few too many penalties. Even the least productive (in goals and assists) work hard and contribute. So perhaps you can spell out just exactly what is "so arrogant" about them. There are 30 teams, so none of them can really be expected to win a Stanley Cup in any given year.
That seems to be what bothers many people, it is how good they have been. Some people can't stand the
success of others, just ruins their lives, they probably lose sleep, they become damn grumpy. lol

those types will become happy again when canucks slip down the ladder.