That being the case, why would they allow their health plan to cover Viagra and Cialis? Speaking of mere gratification...
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That being the case, why would they allow their health plan to cover Viagra and Cialis? Speaking of mere gratification...
There are no proscriptions against drugs like Viagra... however the user is bound by the same obligations of fidelity, responsibility and integrity that cover the Church's teachings on human sexuality.
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Ah, so you're saying that the drug plan would only cover Viagra or Cialis when prescribed to a man who is married to a woman who has not gone through menopause, then.
There is no prohibition against the use of contraceptives by Catholics in Canada. I am sure even Coldstream knows this.
No. As i stated, the Church has no problem treating some systemic dysfunction. It limits its proscriptions to the way its faithful apply the gift of sexuality... as just that, a divine gift, rather than a gratuituous biological function. It's perfectly acceptable for a man to use Viagra or Cialis if he respects these codicils.
You don't know what you are talking about Spade. The Church's teaching on contraception are Universal, not subject to national laws.. as are ALL of its moral tenets.
Clearly you are ignorant of the Winnipeg Agreement.
I wish to hell those purporting to speak on behalf of their Church knew something about it.
I wish to hell those purporting to speak on behalf of their Church knew something about it.
How would it not be a gratuitous biological function if it is not for the purposes of procreation?
What is your point Spade? The Statement made by the Canadian Bishops did not and does not over ride the Holy Sees 1968 encyclical on human life and the regulation of birth.
The Winnipeg Statement leaves the question of contraception up to the conscience of individual Catholics in Canada. It has never been rescinded. You know that the vast majority (approaching 98%; references on request) of Canadian Catholics follow their own conscience by practising birth control. Why are you supporting Coldstream's ultra-conservative position?
From the Winnipeg Statement
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"26. Counsellors may meet others who, accepting the teaching of the Holy Father, find because of particular circumstances they are involved in what seems to them a clear conflict of duties, e.g., the reconciling of conjugal love and responsible parenthood with the education of children already born or with the health of the mother. In accord with the accepted principles of moral theology, if these persons have tried sincerely but without success to pursue a line of conduct in keeping with the given directives, they may be safely assured that whoever honestly chooses that course which seems right to him does so in good conscience [Editor’s italics]."
If observance of a "ban" on contraception were made a criterion of Church membership, the pews would empty.
From the Winnipeg Statement
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"26. Counsellors may meet others who, accepting the teaching of the Holy Father, find because of particular circumstances they are involved in what seems to them a clear conflict of duties, e.g., the reconciling of conjugal love and responsible parenthood with the education of children already born or with the health of the mother. In accord with the accepted principles of moral theology, if these persons have tried sincerely but without success to pursue a line of conduct in keeping with the given directives, they may be safely assured that whoever honestly chooses that course which seems right to him does so in good conscience [Editor’s italics]."
If observance of a "ban" on contraception were made a criterion of Church membership, the pews would empty.
The part in italics says it all for Canadians. That being said, if the University were in Canada, which it is not, I would still be supporting the University's call for contraception not to be covered for students. Students, in general, are not married. Therefore, the Catholic Churches stand is that they should NOT be having sex and do not NEED birth control.
Also, it is besides the point as to whether or not the majority or minority of Catholic kids have premarital sex.
Also, note that no Pope since the 1968 encyclical has made a supporting statement of the Canadian Bishops statements.
and the Church would have to address that if that were to become a problem. That is the key though, it is up to the Church, NOT the government.
No Pope has spoken against it. Married Catholics in Canada practise birth control, pure and simple.
Health implications from personal choices should be discussed with practitioners in the health field, not a practitioner of faith...
Spade, there are a number of things that the Catholic Church "says" that I don't agree with, believe, or follow....BUT........ I would NEVER go to the government to have it changed. It is NOT the governments place, period.
and if someone wants to have contraceptives included in their health coverage, they have the choice of going to a NON CATHOLIC educational institution.
There are non demonitional or non religious educational educational institutions that people can attend if they don't like or are incapable of following the rules of the religious educational institutions. No one is FORCING them to attend a Catholic school.
below is the start of bb's dogs breakfast.
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