Limbaugh's message to 'feminazis'

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They also save money by not paying for the sexual exploits of horn-dogs like Flukes.

Good grief ....THEY ARE NOT SAVING MONEY!! Understand that by not paying for those "sexual exploits" of MEN & WOMEN, they pay up to 12,500 for the average delivery (if child is kept) or 495. for an abortion. Those are covered. Now as to "Horn-dogs" what nasty label do you put on the men that are the other half of the equation??

Quote:--"In the end, this is between the insurance company and Flukes (and anyone else that is at odds with the policy). The University has nothing to do with it. That's my point: Don't make the argument to Georgetown University, make the argument to the insurance provider."

Unlike sex, those involved in the decision making (Catholic University & Insurance Company) excluded those paying for it & affected by it. The policy is clearly a matter of encouraging pregnancy by covering Viagra and by limiting access of women to contraception.

By the way, Sandra Flukes was on "The View" this am..... unlike Limbaugh's rant on the sexual mores of women, she presented a thoughtful, and reasonable argument.
 

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Are Viagra and Cialis covered?

Talk to the insurance company on that... What does that have to do with Flukes' demands?

Now as to "Horn-dogs" what nasty label do you put on the men that are the other half of the equation??

Man-wh*re

Unlike sex, those involved in the decision making (Catholic University & Insurance Company) excluded those paying for it & affected by it. The policy is clearly a matter of encouraging pregnancy by covering Viagra and by limiting access of women to contraception.

Flukes can get a policy from another insurer provider it comes up to a specified standard... No one has a gun to her head requiring that she only assume a University policy.

Hell, maybe she ought to get back on her mother and fathers plan so she can get the thousands of condoms she needs to make it through law school.
 

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I don't know how much clearer I can get...

Lots. The policy is underwritten by United Healthcare Insurance Company for Georgetown University. If Georgetown University changes their policy, you think that other insurance plans that purchase their policies underwritten by United Healthcare Insurance Company will pay more for their policy?

So if you and I are both customers of Sun Life, and your company makes a change to it's policy which adds cost to your plan, you think that my companies different policy will go up as well, despite no changes to my policy?

Ok...:roll:
 

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Lots. The policy is underwritten by United Healthcare Insurance Company for Georgetown University. If Georgetown University changes their policy, you think that other insurance plans that purchase their policies underwritten by United Healthcare Insurance Company will pay more for their policy?

Which policy do you want them to change - the one for the employees (that Flukes referred to) or the one for the students?

That said, like I mentioned earlier, Flukes is welcome to source her own policy that meets her needs, provided it meets the Uni's standards.:roll:

So if you and I are both customers of Sun Life, and your company makes a change to it's policy which adds cost to your plan, you think that my companies different policy will go up as well, despite no changes to my policy?


Policy changes within the same company will have that effect... And yes, the actuarial stats do not differ materially between companies. You'll figure this out really fast the moment that you buy your own home insurance.
 

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Policy changes within the same company will have that effect...

Not the question. If you and I have the exact same policy, of course it will change. Limbaugh and Fluke do not have the same policy. Fluke has a policy offered to Georgetown University students. Limbaugh is not on that policy.
 

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Talk to the insurance company on that... What does that have to do with Flukes' demands?


If I understand correctly, she wants prescription contraception covered.
If Viagra and Cialis are covered, then it is only logical that contraceptives be covered as well. Since the only purpose of Viagra and Cialis is to permit men to have sex.
 

captain morgan

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If I understand correctly, she wants prescription contraception covered.

Based on the info Tonnington provided in a link recently, the insurers do cover prescription birth control meds if it is needed for a medical condition... The contraception part is secondary (or so it appears)

If Viagra and Cialis are covered, then it is only logical that contraceptives be covered as well. Since the only purpose of Viagra and Cialis is to permit men to have sex.

I agree with you... The hypocrisy between the 2 policy points is glaring. That said, it's the insurance company's decision.

My beef on this relates to why Flukes is hanging the University out to dry on it, this issue is with the insurance provider, not the educational institution.
 

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Maybe she should complain... And maybe, just to teach the insurance company a valuable lesson - she ought to get a policy from an outside insurer that meets teh necessary standards for the Uni AND covers rubbers.

That'll show 'em!
 

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Maybe she should complain... And maybe, just to teach the insurance company a valuable lesson - she ought to get a policy from an outside insurer that meets teh necessary standards for the Uni AND covers rubbers.


That'll show 'em!

She can't, it's a Catholic University. They will not approve a policy that covers contraceptives used for preventing pregnancy.
 

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The obvious solution would be to go to a university that supports your own philosophy, but, like the majority of Catholics I know, there is a definite feeling that many of the Church policies are best honoured by breaking them.
 

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The obvious solution would be to go to a university that supports your own philosophy, but, like the majority of Catholics I know, there is a definite feeling that many of the Church policies are best honoured by breaking them.

It's the only way to move the institution into the 21st century. Gerry seems to be in the minority if the Catholics I know are any indication.

My beef on this relates to why Flukes is hanging the University out to dry on it, this issue is with the insurance provider, not the educational institution.

A few posts ago your beef was that you and Rush were paying so she could get laid. It's very interesting that you took a quick detour once insurance coverage for Viagra was brought into the discussion....very interesting indeed.
 

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A Challenge to Rush: Prove Your Ratings

How many listeners does Rush Limbaugh have? Well, in the press there are only two numbers you'll ever see -- 20 million or 15 million. Those are large numbers, so that is why Limbaugh is taken seriously and is believed to be influential.

I've got news for you -- those numbers are a total fabrication. They're made up out of whole cloth. You want to know where the 20 million number came from? It was first printed in Billboard magazine back in 1993. Here is the quote:


"Limbaugh's show is now heard on 610 stations and reaches approximately 20 million listeners, according to [Kit] Carson."


So who is Kit Carson? A guy known as Rush Limbaugh's "chief of staff." In other words, Rush's team simply made up the 20 million number and everyone believed it. He has never, ever presented any evidence to that effect.


More at:
Cenk Uygur: A Challenge to Rush: Prove Your Ratings
 

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She can't, it's a Catholic University. They will not approve a policy that covers contraceptives used for preventing pregnancy.

Fair enough, that is Georgetown University's policy and prerogative. Flukes also has options, yet she is refusing to consider those purely on a financial basis.

Sad really, she makes quite a fuss about the health issue related to this, but in her eyes, her own health and well being aren't worth her paying to satisfy that concern. With that in mind, why should anyone else feel the need to give a rip about her position.

At the end of the day, Flukes is doing nothing more than attempting to apply her values and ethics on Georgetown University

It's the only way to move the institution into the 21st century. Gerry seems to be in the minority if the Catholics I know are any indication.

.... Or, how about you live your life the way you choose. No one is stopping you from providing your kids with thousands of dollars of contraceptives and encouraging them to run out and get laid.

A few posts ago your beef was that you and Rush were paying so she could get laid. It's very interesting that you took a quick detour once insurance coverage for Viagra was brought into the discussion....very interesting indeed.


Indeed, you have a severe comprehension problem. My position has been stable since the beginning of this thread.

Perhaps the meds you're taking for your addiction is fogging your thought process. I hear that methadone does that.

Not the question. If you and I have the exact same policy, of course it will change. Limbaugh and Fluke do not have the same policy. Fluke has a policy offered to Georgetown University students. Limbaugh is not on that policy.


The costs are deferred across the entire consumer base of the insurance company in one form or another.

If Limbaugh has a healthcare policy with the same insurer that provides Georgetown Uni, then yes - his policy will be affected by the University's policy and the University policy will also be affected by Limbaugh's.
 

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Talk to the insurance company on that... What does that have to do with Flukes' demands?



Man-wh*re



Flukes can get a policy from another insurer provider it comes up to a specified standard... No one has a gun to her head requiring that she only assume a University policy.

Hell, maybe she ought to get back on her mother and fathers plan so she can get the thousands of condoms she needs to make it through law school.


No...Flukes alreadys stated what she pays for HER contraceptives out of pocket. There is no reason to object re cost, as it is much cheaper than the insurance companies paying for prenatal care, delivery and hospital stays for mother and babies or even abortion costs if they cannot support a child at the time. Flukes testified reasonably, contrary to LimpBo. (thanks for that to a previous poster)

She simply asked that insurance companies providing group coverage, include women's contraceptives, as they do for men who wish to have viagra or Celias (sp.?)

You are left with two excuses as to why you are so ferocious in your objections.. (But hey we already know your agenda) 1) Religious reasons, or 2) Limbaugh or those who agree with him consider women are not to be considered equal, regarding health care. or sex!! In the latter case, a penis has more rights than a woman's life & uterus.

Talk to the insurance company on that... What does that have to do with Flukes' demands?



Man-wh*re



Flukes can get a policy from another insurer provider it comes up to a specified standard... No one has a gun to her head requiring that she only assume a University policy.

Hell, maybe she ought to get back on her mother and fathers plan so she can get the thousands of condoms she needs to make it through law school.

Maybe she should complain... And maybe, just to teach the insurance company a valuable lesson - she ought to get a policy from an outside insurer that meets teh necessary standards for the Uni AND covers rubbers.

That'll show 'em!

Yes, especially if the rubbers fail. Making the condom producers support that child through university should do it, wouldn't you think?? What will be next?? Suing the sperm doner, for support of child for the same period. Hey, that already happens LOL. What would really show the insurance provider, is if the students and employees approach another group insurance company who will provide reasonable coverage to allow equal coverage for male and female. One could suspect that you suffer from womb envy.
 
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The costs are deferred across the entire consumer base of the insurance company in one form or another.
Hmm, my car insurance premiums haven't gone up in the past three years...and I'm sure that there have been claims made by other policy holders.
 

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No...Flukes alreadys stated what she pays for HER contraceptives out of pocket.

Ummmm.. Yeah - I suppose that because the insurance company doesn't pay, she'd kinda have to.

She simply asked that insurance companies providing group coverage, include women's contraceptives, as they do for men who wish to have viagra or Celias (sp.?)

Men don't get their contraceptives paid for either.

You are left with two excuses as to why you are so ferocious in your objections.. (But hey we already know your agenda) 1) Religious reasons, or 2) Limbaugh or those who agree with him consider women are not to be considered equal, regarding health care. or sex!! In the latter case, a penis has more rights than a woman's life & uterus.

Keep up the spin, although I might suggest that you try to be a little more effective at it.

I really couldn't care less if Flukes gets rubbers covered by insurance or not.. I also don't care if she lobbies to have Pepsi but not Coke covered in her policy - it makes no difference to me.

The point is that she's a complete and utter moron (with an agenda) for attacking the university for this. This is an issue with the insurance company and not the school.

I hope that it's clear enough for you now.


Yes, especially if the rubbers fail.

Sue your neighbour's plumber's dachshund for all I care.

What would really show the insurance provider, is if the students and employees approach another group insurance company who will provide reasonable coverage to allow equal coverage for male and female.

Already been suggested... Try and keep up, m'kay?


One could suspect that you suffer from womb envy.

You gotta be kidding

Hmm, my car insurance premiums haven't gone up in the past three years...and I'm sure that there have been claims made by other policy holders.

Do you have comprehensive insurance?
 

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The point is that she's a complete and utter moron (with an agenda) for attacking the university for this. This is an issue with the insurance company and not the school.

I guess your assumption is that, under a group plan, it's the individual people who negotiate with the insurance company to determine what is and what is not covered.

Every once in a while, you give off the image of someone with a clue, but generally speaking, not.