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JLM

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i've yet to read something accurate and positive and constructive from any of your posts,
you seem to live to jump all over anything, like a grumpy snagglepuss, who has disobeyed their
parent 'again', and is taking it out on somone else.

life is good, I feel it, give it a try.

One more thought just occurred to me Talloola, "great minds think alike" :lol:
 

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yes, I agree, all of that is very accurate, and so much has improved since then, and lots of work to
be done for the future as well, but I think it is going in the right direction.



its called an opinion, my opinion is a result from watching the sedins and others for
many years.

i've yet to read something accurate and positive and constructive from any of your posts,
you seem to live to jump all over anything, like a grumpy snagglepuss, who has disobeyed their
parent 'again', and is taking it out on somone else.

life is good, I feel it, give it a try.

If it's an opinion, you should say it's an opinion, not say that you speak for someone else. You're the one that said you spoke FOR them.

I'm glad you're back on track, policing what others should think, say, or do. The forum really isn't the same without you telling everyone how to behave, and what to think.

Carry on.

One more thought just occurred to me Talloola, "great minds think alike" :lol:

And fools never differ.
 

talloola

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One more thought just occurred to me Talloola, "great minds think alike" :lol:

life is just too short to be that miserable jlm, some people just miss the brightness of the day.

good game tonight, the twins had a bit more jump, although they didn't get on the score board.

booth again flying around on those magic skates.

hodgson gave yanik a great pass for a very nice goal, and a nice empty netter for burrows.

luongo played great. and imagine canucks won in 'regulation' time, wow.

canucks 3 avalanche 1

toronto on saturday.
 
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JLM

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life is just too short to be that miserable jlm, some people just miss the brightness of the day.

good game tonight, the twins had a bit more jump, although they didn't get on the score board.

booth again flying around on those magic skates.

hodgson gave yanik a great pass for a very nice goal, and a nice empty netter for burrows.

luongo played great. and imagine canucks won in 'regulation' time, wow.

canucks 3 avalanche 1

toronto on saturday.

Sounds like I missed a good one- I was needed on the bowling team! :smile:
 
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Mowich

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yes, I agree, all of that is very accurate, and so much has improved since then, and lots of work to
be done for the future as well, but I think it is going in the right direction.

I think things are definitely going in the right direction, talloola and the NHL directive over-turning the penalty on LaPierre is further proof of that. I have a feeling that when Bettman and the GMs get together this time we just might see some rulings with real meat in them - something the refs can call clearly and cleanly instead of the way things are right now where you see them calling a penalty on one guy while letting another go for the very same cause.

Sounds like I missed a good one- I was needed on the bowling team! :smile:

Ah! A Cialis night for one of your buds??? LOL! Sorry, JLM, that remark just reminded me so much of their commercials. :smile:
 

talloola

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I think things are definitely going in the right direction, talloola and the NHL directive over-turning the penalty on LaPierre is further proof of that. I have a feeling that when Bettman and the GMs get together this time we just might see some rulings with real meat in them - something the refs can call clearly and cleanly instead of the way things are right now where you see them calling a penalty on one guy while letting another go for the very same cause.



Ah! A Cialis night for one of your buds??? LOL! Sorry, JLM, that remark just reminded me so much of their commercials. :smile:

ha ha, thats hillarious
 

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yeah, that poll is dumb, and being anonymous makes it null and void, and it isn't accurate anyway.

I think the anonymity makes me question it a bit but if it is genuine, its interesting to see how players view their peers.

I can speak for the sedins quite accurately, nothing intimidates them, and they are afraid of nothing.

I don't know. In the playoffs it seems some teams are able to neutralize them, a lot with close checking, physical play which seems to lend support for the intimidation theory. If it was totally out to lunch, I would think Vancouver would have been able to win a championship with them, but thus far it hasn't happened, and at their age, the window is closing if it hasn't already.
Don't know about kessel, but he is a great goal scorer,a quick thinker on the ice, and a gamer, and I would have him on my team any day.
I have him on my fantasy team and I'd buy in to the notion he can be intimidated/rattled, especially lately, when you see some of his post-game media comments.

Semin is lazy, I have noticed that.
Semin is Fedorov-like to me: a lot of talent but a piss poor attitude at times. I think he lends credence to the stereotype of European players (and especially some of the Russians) not liking the physical game as much as North Americans do (it is a generalization, with exceptions, but in his case it fits to a T).

Kane is just small, but very talented, so he has to play the game that many small players have to play, so he doesn't get squished on every shift.
I agree. As a former Stanley Cup Champion and Olympic Champion, I don't know about this one.

Kovalchuk is a very talented, fearless player, and physically tough, I saw him fight 'once', and he was the victor quite quickly.
He belonged on this list when he was in Atlanta, but I don't think so in New Jersey: he has been a lot different player in the Swamp.

I don't think any NHL player is scared or easily intimidated, just being in the NHL proves that to me, or they never would have made it that far to begin with,probably not even to major junior.
I don't think they are "easily" intimidated but some people always have more mental toughness than others and hockey players are no exception. Compared to the guy on the street, they may be above average, but this is a measuring among their peers.

I just have to add, that when mat cooke was doing mean things to other players,several times, (mark sevard had to retire because of concussion), I notice mario lemieux did nothing to him, or said nothing about him, as his owner, and he only stopped playing later, when he was finally suspended after new rulings were introduced, but lemieux did come out and complain about 'other' instances with 'other' teams.

A couple of the penguin players openly criticized cooke at the time.
That is false. Mario DID publicly complain about other teams (notably my Islanders after the one game here in Pittsburgh that was filled with fights and nastiness)but he also called out Cooke in the Pittsburgh media. I think Cooke was told "clean it up or you won't be back here" because the entire organization was fed up with his actions which hurt the team on the ice and reflected badly on the entire franchise. Mario's opinion carries a LOT of weight around here, as an ownership partner but also as the man who really gave an identity and respectability to the Penguins franchise, and the players are all well aware of this or they are gone.
 

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I think the anonymity makes me question it a bit but if it is genuine, its interesting to see how players view their peers.



I don't know. In the playoffs it seems some teams are able to neutralize them, a lot with close checking, physical play which seems to lend support for the intimidation theory. If it was totally out to lunch, I would think Vancouver would have been able to win a championship with them, but thus far it hasn't happened, and at their age, the window is closing if it hasn't already.

I have him on my fantasy team and I'd buy in to the notion he can be intimidated/rattled, especially lately, when you see some of his post-game media comments.


Semin is Fedorov-like to me: a lot of talent but a piss poor attitude at times. I think he lends credence to the stereotype of European players (and especially some of the Russians) not liking the physical game as much as North Americans do (it is a generalization, with exceptions, but in his case it fits to a T).


I agree. As a former Stanley Cup Champion and Olympic Champion, I don't know about this one.

Kovalchuk is a very talented, fearless player, and physically tough, I saw him fight 'once', and he was the victor quite quickly.
He belonged on this list when he was in Atlanta, but I don't think so in New Jersey: he has been a lot different player in the Swamp.


I don't think they are "easily" intimidated but some people always have more mental toughness than others and hockey players are no exception. Compared to the guy on the street, they may be above average, but this is a measuring among their peers.


That is false. Mario DID publicly complain about other teams (notably my Islanders after the one game here in Pittsburgh that was filled with fights and nastiness)but he also called out Cooke in the Pittsburgh media. I think Cooke was told "clean it up or you won't be back here" because the entire organization was fed up with his actions which hurt the team on the ice and reflected badly on the entire franchise. Mario's opinion carries a LOT of weight around here, as an ownership partner but also as the man who really gave an identity and respectability to the Penguins franchise, and the players are all well aware of this or they are gone.

I don't remember lemieux calling out cooke, so the fact that he did is good, as he should have.
There was a time, it must have been earlier in cooke's wrong doings, when lemieux
didn't say anything (yet), because he was criticized at the time for making
statements about others, when he has a player who behaves 'the same' on his team.

If players or anyone else hasn't the guts to be identified when making their
comments, the comments in my opinion are moot and useless, anyone can say
anything, and they can print anything that they claim are anonymous, how can
anyone know if it is genuine or not, so I don't consider any of those comments
worth anything, and I don't consider the printing of the comments responsible
either, but it seems it does gather replies, guess thats what they are after.

The kovalchuk fight I saw, was when he was playing in Atlanta, he was very fired
up, and got the job done.
He has always been one of my favourite players, and I felt so sorry for him
stuck in Atlanta for so long, yet he delivered many points every year, and I
also remember he being tied for the most points in the season with naslund
and I think it was nash, he was very young then.
If he had of been in detroit, or somewhere else from the beginning, he would
have won many individual awards.

Maybe we are looking at the word intimidation in a different way, my take on that
word is 'making them afraid', and they aren't afraid of anything.
But yes, lots of teams can stop them from playing well, we've seen that many
times.

Yes I agree about semin, and kovalev is another that comes to mind, so so talented,
but they want to show their talent without others bothering them, so they should
have picked a different sport I guess.

I was very excited to hear on the radio that Seattle has announced they will build a new sports complex,
to house an NBA team coming back and also for an NHL team in the future.

I've whined and moaned for years about seattle needing an NHL team, and have always wondered why it
is taking so long, as it is the perfect location right on the coast to link the rest of the west
coast teams, it will be perfect, I can't wait, and I wonder how long it will be, maybe 5 years?
I wonder, maybe less.
 
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Mowich

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That is false. Mario DID publicly complain about other teams (notably my Islanders after the one game here in Pittsburgh that was filled with fights and nastiness)but he also called out Cooke in the Pittsburgh media. I think Cooke was told "clean it up or you won't be back here" because the entire organization was fed up with his actions which hurt the team on the ice and reflected badly on the entire franchise. Mario's opinion carries a LOT of weight around here, as an ownership partner but also as the man who really gave an identity and respectability to the Penguins franchise, and the players are all well aware of this or they are gone.

I don’t ‘speak’ for talloola but I believe what she meant was that right after the blind-side hit on Marc Savard by Cooke in the 2010/11 season, neither Mario nor the Penguins came forward to denounce his behaviour. It wasn’t until the McDonough hit and subsequent suspension to Cooke that Mario publicly came forward and supported the NHL’s decision.

After the shambles that barely passed for a hockey game between the Islanders and the Penguins on February 11, 2011 which saw 65 penalties assigned – 15 fighting majors and 20 game misconducts; 10 players ejected; a 10-game suspension to Eric Godard and a 9-game suspension to Gilles – who in my opinion should have been suspended for the rest of the season for his uncalled for and unconscionable hit on Eric Tangradi, Mario stood up and spoke publicly.

His comments among others included these statements:

“What happened Friday night on Long Island wasn’t hockey. It was a travesty. It was painful to watch the game I love turn into a sideshow like that.”

Mario also went after the NHL when he stated:

“The NHL had a chance to send a clear and strong message that those kinds of actions are unacceptable and embarrassing to the sport. It failed. We, as a league, must do a better job of protecting the integrity of the game and the safety of our players. We must make it clear that those kinds of actions will not be tolerated and will be met with meaningful disciplinary action.

If the events relating to Friday night reflect the state of the league, I need to rethink whether I want to be a part of it.”

Mario's opinion does carry weight as does that of NHL team owners Geoff Molson (Montreal Canadians) and Eugene Melnyk (Ottawa Senators). Melnyk went so far as to say:
"These goons trying to decimate elite players......[it]happened to us with [Senators star Jason] Spezza .........now [it] happened to the elite player in [Sidney] Crosby.....it's going to continue unless radical stuff happens."
Melnyk also told The Fan 509: "You hit a guy in the head.......you're gone. You don't play hockey anymore.......[that's the] only way to do it."

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A leopard may not be able to change his spots but a former NHL 'goon' has proven that he can and has changed his ways. I give full credit to Matt Cooke for working hard this season to become a player who can be an asset to his team in more ways than fighting and laying on brutal hits.

Following his suspension for the McDonagh hit and a public dressing down by Pen's GM Ray Shero, Cooke promised to change and thus far it seems that he has kept his word.

"Although injuries have threatened to derail another Cup run in Pittsburgh, Cooke has helped the team on all fronts, as a penalty killer, an energy player and an occasional power-play participant.


Cooke has taken just 14 minutes in penalties thus far, putting him on pace for fewer than 30 for the season. While it may not put him in Lady Byng territory, it would represent by far the lowest penalty minute totals in his career for a full season."

Pittsburgh Penguins' Matt Cooke proves change is possible - ESPN
 

talloola

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I don’t ‘speak’ for talloola but I believe what she meant was that right after the blind-side hit on Marc Savard by Cooke in the 2010/11 season, neither Mario nor the Penguins came forward to denounce his behaviour. It wasn’t until the McDonough hit and subsequent suspension to Cooke that Mario publicly came forward and supported the NHL’s decision.

After the shambles that barely passed for a hockey game between the Islanders and the Penguins on February 11, 2011 which saw 65 penalties assigned – 15 fighting majors and 20 game misconducts; 10 players ejected; a 10-game suspension to Eric Godard and a 9-game suspension to Gilles – who in my opinion should have been suspended for the rest of the season for his uncalled for and unconscionable hit on Eric Tangradi, Mario stood up and spoke publicly.
His comments among others included these statements:

“What happened Friday night on Long Island wasn’t hockey. It was a travesty. It was painful to watch the game I love turn into a sideshow like that.”

Mario also went after the NHL when he stated:

“The NHL had a chance to send a clear and strong message that those kinds of actions are unacceptable and embarrassing to the sport. It failed. We, as a league, must do a better job of protecting the integrity of the game and the safety of our players. We must make it clear that those kinds of actions will not be tolerated and will be met with meaningful disciplinary action.

If the events relating to Friday night reflect the state of the league, I need to rethink whether I want to be a part of it.”

Mario's opinion does carry weight as does that of NHL team owners Geoff Molson (Montreal Canadians) and Eugene Melnyk (Ottawa Senators). Melnyk went so far as to say:
"These goons trying to decimate elite players......[it]happened to us with [Senators star Jason] Spezza .........now [it] happened to the elite player in [Sidney] Crosby.....it's going to continue unless radical stuff happens."
Melnyk also told The Fan 509: "You hit a guy in the head.......you're gone. You don't play hockey anymore.......[that's the] only way to do it."

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A leopard may not be able to change his spots but a former NHL 'goon' has proven that he can and has changed his ways. I give full credit to Matt Cooke for working hard this season to become a player who can be an asset to his team in more ways than fighting and laying on brutal hits.

Following his suspension for the McDonagh hit and a public dressing down by Pen's GM Ray Shero, Cooke promised to change and thus far it seems that he has kept his word.

"Although injuries have threatened to derail another Cup run in Pittsburgh, Cooke has helped the team on all fronts, as a penalty killer, an energy player and an occasional power-play participant.


Cooke has taken just 14 minutes in penalties thus far, putting him on pace for fewer than 30 for the season. While it may not put him in Lady Byng territory, it would represent by far the lowest penalty minute totals in his career for a full season."

Pittsburgh Penguins' Matt Cooke proves change is possible - ESPN
yes, and inbetween the savard hit and the other hits, the rules were changed, as
the refs said there was no ruling to call a penalty on cooke when he hit savard,
but I disagree with that analogy, it was just too violent of a hit to be ignored.

yes, he has made a big effort to clean up his act, good for him, but I do hope he doesn't forget what
he did to savard, 'who is twice the player he is', and he has had to retire because the concussion
symptoms have never gone away, and I know others have also suffered concussion problems because of
different situations, but that was so intentional and unnecessary, and I will not forget watching him
skate half way from the center of the ice to the board area, and lift his elbow just like a dog lifting
its leg, to hit McDonagh who was doing nothing to him at all, very predatory.
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Wow, end of the first period and chicago are up on the rangers 4-0, first positive sign from black hawks
for a while now, but there is 40 minutes left in the game, so we'll see how it all ends.
chicago won 4-2
 
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yes, and inbetween the savard hit and the other hits, the rules were changed, as
the refs said there was no ruling to call a penalty on cooke when he hit savard,
but I disagree with that analogy, it was just too violent of a hit to be ignored.

yes, he has made a big effort to clean up his act, good for him, but I do hope he doesn't forget what
he did to savard, 'who is twice the player he is', and he has had to retire because the concussion
symptoms have never gone away, and I know others have also suffered concussion problems because of
different situations, but that was so intentional and unnecessary, and I will not forget watching him
skate half way from the center of the ice to the board area, and lift his elbow just like a dog lifting
its leg, to hit McDonagh who was doing nothing to him at all, very predatory.

Agreed, talloola.

Watched Calgary play Dallas last night..........not a bad game, lots of energy but Dallas played the better game, IMHO. Robeiro made a fabulous behind his back move with his stick to bring the puck around and score the OT goal for Dallas and the 2 pt victory.
 

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Agreed, talloola.

Watched Calgary play Dallas last night..........not a bad game, lots of energy but Dallas played the better game, IMHO. Robeiro made a fabulous behind his back move with his stick to bring the puck around and score the OT goal for Dallas and the 2 pt victory.

what an exciting and special play, he is such a magician with the puck, I have seen him do many neat
moves over the years, and it just comes natural to him, a gift.

it would be kind of neat to see canucks acquire him before the trade deadline, but dallas is still
on the brink of either making the playoffs or not, so they might not be ready to sell yet.

I see hal gill has gone to nashville from montreal today, the trading has begun started yesterday
with the domenic moore trade from tampa bay to san jose, and there has been a couple of other trades as well.
 

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what an exciting and special play, he is such a magician with the puck, I have seen him do many neat
moves over the years, and it just comes natural to him, a gift.

It sure got my vote for 'play of the week'. :smile:

Watched the Jets and Bruins last night. Rask was in the net for the Bruins though whether that made a difference in the outcome, I'm not sure never-the-less, the Jets took the game 4 to 2 - YIPPEE! Great to see them beat the big, bad Bruins. :lol:

Burmistrov scored on a pass from Stuart to put the Jets on the board first at 18:01 in the 2nd but the Bruins came back at 13:50 when Caron scored with an assist by Kelly.

After Evander Kane was sent to the penalty box for elbowing, the Bruins PP was effectively stymied by some nice penalty killing by the Jets.

Then with 4:10 left on the clock, Byfuglien and Kane combined to send a beauty pass to Wheeler for the 2nd Jet point of the period.

Tukka Rask was probably thanking his lucky stars when he found himself facing Wheeler who had managed to get open and was winding up to let one go as the final seconds ran out on the time-clock and the period ended with the Jets ahead by 1.

At 19:11 in the 3rd and after Byfuglien broke his stick, Bruin's Krejci got one on Pavelec and the score was tied at 2 apiece.

At 18:17, Brian Little was assessed a hooking penalty and the Bruins' PP went to work but once again, the Jets held the off the scoreboard.

33 seconds after the penalty ended, Little made up for his mistake by putting a nice one in the net on assists from Wheeler and Ladd and the Jets were back in the lead.

And it was Little again who scored at 13:40 to put the Jets ahead by 2.

After a series of penalties and a so-so PK by the Jets, the game would finish with the Jets holding on to take the game and move them up in the standings by 2 points.

ROCK ON JETS!
 

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After a series of penalties and a so-so PK by the Jets, the game would finish with the Jets holding on to take the game and move them up in the standings by 2 points.

ROCK ON JETS!

they are strong at home, not quite so much away. I cheer for the jets as I do for the canucks, love that
team, and love the fans, they are so pumped all the way thru their games, it is joyful to watch them.

Kane is a very special player. wheeler and little very good too, and its good that they have
byfuglien back, it was definitely a noticeable difference with him out of the lineup for so long.

so nice to have winnipeg back in the mix.
 

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just saw chicago defeat st. louis - 3-1

detroit defeat san jose - 2-1

another home win for the wings, 23 now, amazing

looks like chicago is putting their duldrums behind them, and moving up in the standings again.
 

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In between watching the Scottie's Tournament of Hearts and waiting for the Canuck's game to start, I happened upon a TSN replay of the IIHF 2009 Canada vs Russia semi-final game, the winner of which would advance to the Gold Medal round.

With 5.4 seconds left on the time clock in the 3rd period, Jordan Eberle took a pass from John Tavares and slipped it past the Russian net-minder to send the game into OT. With nothing solved in OT, the game went to a shoot-out. Jordan Eberle was first up and easily slipped one into the net. Tokarski, in the net for Canada stopped the first Russian shot then John Tavares scored on his chance and once again it was up to Tokarski, standing tall in the net to stop the Russians from getting a point and stop him he did. Canada went on to win the game 6 to 5. Jordan Eberle was named the game's MVP.

Our Canadians would go on to beat the Swedes in the Gold Medal game, their fifth Gold Medal win in as many years. Jordan Eberle and Cody Hodgson both scored on an empty net to win the game 5 to 1. John Tavares and Cody Hodgson shared the tournament scoring title with 16 apiece.

Among the players on that 2009 Canadian team besides the above mentioned were; Jamie Benn, PK Subban, Ryan Ellis, Tyler Ennis, Patrice Cormier, Tyler Myers, Evander Kane, and Jonathan Huberdeau - and just look at where these guys are today.
 

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In between watching the Scottie's Tournament of Hearts and waiting for the Canuck's game to start, I happened upon a TSN replay of the IIHF 2009 Canada vs Russia semi-final game, the winner of which would advance to the Gold Medal round.

With 5.4 seconds left on the time clock in the 3rd period, Jordan Eberle took a pass from John Tavares and slipped it past the Russian net-minder to send the game into OT. With nothing solved in OT, the game went to a shoot-out. Jordan Eberle was first up and easily slipped one into the net. Tokarski, in the net for Canada stopped the first Russian shot then John Tavares scored on his chance and once again it was up to Tokarski, standing tall in the net to stop the Russians from getting a point and stop him he did. Canada went on to win the game 6 to 5. Jordan Eberle was named the game's MVP.

Our Canadians would go on to beat the Swedes in the Gold Medal game, their fifth Gold Medal win in as many years. Jordan Eberle and Cody Hodgson both scored on an empty net to win the game 5 to 1. John Tavares and Cody Hodgson shared the tournament scoring title with 16 apiece.

Among the players on that 2009 Canadian team besides the above mentioned were; Jamie Benn, PK Subban, Ryan Ellis, Tyler Ennis, Patrice Cormier, Tyler Myers, Evander Kane, and Jonathan Huberdeau - and just look at where these guys are today.

amazing juniors they all were.

We actually thought at the time that cody hodgson should have been tournament MVP, but it was john tavares.
but later on cody hodgson was named most valuable player of the canadian junior league, so I guess it
all evened out in the end.

nice look back on all of those, 'now' good NHLrs, not sure about huberdeau, or patrice cormier, where are they.

just saw jamie benn get a bad injury a few games ago, bad skate cut when he and another player fell into
the boards together, just an accident, but he was cut in the inner thigh area, not sure how he is doing,
haven't heard anything more about it.

amazing juniors they all were.

OK, patrice cormier is playing for AHL, St. john's ice caps (old manitoba moose team), so he was drafted
by Atlanta then.

AND -- jonathan huberdeau is still a junior, boy he must have been very young in that tournament, as
he is playing for the St. John Sea Dogs, major junior hockey, he just got a hat trick the other day,
in a game against the quebec remparts, he was out for quite a while with a broken foot.
 
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too bad toews isn't playing for chicago tonight, against detroit. I was so looking forward to the
game, (even though it is same time as canucks).

That should be a very good game, but his absence will make a difference. It isn't in detroit, so
wings are vulnerable for a loss, seems at home they aren't.

These matchups are becoming very high intensity now, just as canucks game with nashville should be
as well.
 

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Here's a penalty you'll never see a Canucks player get: