What would YOU want to hear at church?

[talloola]

Maybe you and your whole family lose it to a super volcano type of incident, what good did all the planning do, my version has you being able to see it from the closest ridge using the viewpoint of a dandelion seed, the next day off observing something else, trees running away from a rising ocean perhaps.

Did I mention the wine? (rather than whine)


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interesting observation.

well, the wine will prevent us from whining. lol

 

[MHz]

and with unleaven bread we won't have burps or farts. Any idea what size 'barrels/jars' they had at the wedding with the water/wine miracle?

 

[talloola]

"God" is just a word like dog or cat. "Mother Nature" is suitable. All it means is there are events taking place that are not of man's planning. "Life" is just a "whistle stop" on a long journey.

yes, definitely, i can agree on that, and one big regret I have is, I will miss finding out what goes
on all over the universe, I want to know other humans from other planets, and more information that
tells us about ourselves, but, on the other hand, maybe I will be lucky 'not' to know, could just
be more wars, what else do the leaders of countries do, so what would be different about meeting
other beings, (shoot them before they shoot us), just more of the same stuff we have here on our earth.

 

[MHz]

just more of the same stuff we have here on our earth.

Then it wouldn't qualify for being part of the new earth, which these verses are from. Jer:31 applies to the first to be gathered, these verses are for the last to be gathered. There is a difference, not much, and you can influence which group you belong to, not much.

Isa:65:21-25:
And they shall build houses,
and inhabit them;
and they shall plant vineyards,
and eat the fruit of them.
They shall not build,
and another inhabit;
they shall not plant,
and another eat:
for as the days of a tree are the days of my people,
and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.
They shall not labour in vain,
nor bring forth for trouble;
for they are the seed of the blessed of the LORD,
and their offspring with them.
And it shall come to pass,
that before they call,
I will answer;
and while they are yet speaking,
I will hear.
The wolf and the lamb shall feed together,
and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock:
and dust shall be the serpent's meat.
They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain,
saith the LORD.

Jer:31:33:
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel;
After those days,
saith the LORD,
I will put my law in their inward parts,
and write it in their hearts;
and will be their God,
and they shall be my people.
Jer:31:34:
And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour,
and every man his brother,
saying,
Know the LORD:
for they shall all know me,
from the least of them unto the greatest of them,
saith the LORD;
for I will forgive their iniquity,
and I will remember their sin no more.

 

[talloola]

Then it wouldn't qualify for being part of the new earth, which these verses are from. Jer:31 applies to the first to be gathered, these verses are for the last to be gathered. There is a difference, not much, and you can influence which group you belong to, not much.

Isa:65:21-25:
And they shall build houses,
and inhabit them;
and they shall plant vineyards,
and eat the fruit of them.
They shall not build,
and another inhabit;
they shall not plant,
and another eat:
for as the days of a tree are the days of my people,
and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.
They shall not labour in vain,
nor bring forth for trouble;
for they are the seed of the blessed of the LORD,
and their offspring with them.
And it shall come to pass,
that before they call,
I will answer;
and while they are yet speaking,
I will hear.
The wolf and the lamb shall feed together,
and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock:
and dust shall be the serpent's meat.
They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain,
saith the LORD.

Jer:31:33:
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel;
After those days,
saith the LORD,
I will put my law in their inward parts,
and write it in their hearts;
and will be their God,
and they shall be my people.
Jer:31:34:
And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour,
and every man his brother,
saying,
Know the LORD:
for they shall all know me,
from the least of them unto the greatest of them,
saith the LORD;
for I will forgive their iniquity,
and I will remember their sin no more.

its all chinese to me, i'm not connected, sorry about that, i'm on a different channel. lol

 

[L Gilbert]

I suppose you think General Electric builds butterflies.

I don't know this General Electric. What country's armed forces is he in?

 

[MHz]

its all chinese to me, i'm not connected, sorry about that, i'm on a different channel. lol

Don't sweat, you can watch anything you like, in the end there is only one channel and anybody with peeps in this ones gets to use them again in the next one, the different one. Question 1, with the slow rotations/changes in stars and galaxies over eternity could we see them 'leaving traces' in their movements so we see lines of light and not dots of light?

 

[talloola]

Don't sweat, you can watch anything you like, in the end there is only one channel and anybody with peeps in this ones gets to use them again in the next one, the different one. Question 1, with the slow rotations/changes in stars and galaxies over eternity could we see them 'leaving traces' in their movements so we see lines of light and not dots of light?

sure----------um, I mean yeah, I guess, sounds feasible, I mean - I like the idea of lines of light,

would appear more attractive. um, yeah, we'll go with lines of light, I pick that one. lol

 

[L Gilbert]

Something from the present? I once was lost, but now am found, was blind but now I see. There's no miracle quite like a man like me being freed from the slavery of my sin.

You're only a slave to your sin if you haven't learned anything from it and carry it around with you.

The cup is not moving relative to the car, and I'm sitting in the car, not on the sidewalk. I live on planet earth, and the entire universe orbits where I live. All I have to to is look at the sky to see this happening.

Like I said, not moving is an illusion. The reality is that you are moving at the same speed as the car, cupholder, cup, coffee, etc.
You live on Earth, but the universe is not orbiting where you live. It only LOOKS like it.
Like I said, reality and illusion are completely different. You stick to illusion if you wish, but don't expect me to, as well.

Correct, that's not evidence for a non believer. I've already pointed out that it's impossible for me to give you new life -- that's a work of God. You won't come to faith the same way you come to understand something in math class, that's what I've been saying. God transcends this material universe. With faith, there's something much greater than material things.

That's not evidence for anything.

I value lots of things more than material things and I do that without having faith in gods and goblins.

i have nothing left to say. i can only testify what i know. then i pray for God to do what only he can do.

As I explained before, you only think you know things. If there is no evidence for what you believe, then you DON'T know, you THINK you know.

So 4,005,000,000 would be in the ball parky, check, one for God. Next, .......


the technical term is 'goddidit'. This crowd hasn't got the term 'salvation' down yet and their bark is all they have, squeaky as it is.

......... in your opinion.

 

[MHz]

sure----------um, I mean yeah, I guess, sounds feasible, I mean - I like the idea of lines of light,

would appear more attractive. um, yeah, we'll go with lines of light, I pick that one. lol

In the meantime may I suggest a home laser-light show and some fast waltzing music (so you don't fall) If you want to play with worlds there is a solar system simulator that lets you program 10 planets and how the interact. Novice me let it be random and onece in awhile two would get into an pattern called a sustainable mutual orbit. The lines they left would have made nice page borders or something like that. Thinking they were populated worlds would not have worked out that well for getting a high score as 'God'

......... in your opinion.

Yeah, are you saying my summation of the Christian forum section is wrong and there is a strong Christian presence here?

 

[L Gilbert]

In the meantime may I suggest a home laser-light show and some fast waltzing music (so you don't fall) If you want to play with worlds there is a solar system simulator that lets you program 10 planets and how the interact. Novice me let it be random and onece in awhile two would get into an pattern called a sustainable mutual orbit. The lines they left would have made nice page borders or something like that. Thinking they were populated worlds would not have worked out that well for getting a high score as 'God'


Yeah, are you saying my summation of the Christian forum section is wrong and there is a strong Christian presence here?

Nope.

 

[gerryh]

As I explained before, you only think you know things. If there is no evidence for what you believe, then you DON'T know, you THINK you know.

I KNOW, not just "think". "I" have been given the proof I need to believe in Jesus Christ and our Heavenly Father. It's awfully presumptuous of you, as presumptuous as adopted, to tell someone else what they know, what they don't know, and what they think.

 

[L Gilbert]

I KNOW, not just "think". "I" have been given the proof I need to believe in Jesus Christ and our Heavenly Father. It's awfully presumptuous of you, as presumptuous as adopted, to tell someone else what they know, what they don't know, and what they think.

If there's no evidence, there's no evidence. If it is only available to one person, it is useless as evidence. So prove that you have incontrovertible proof.

 

[gerryh]

If there's no evidence, there's no evidence. If it is only available to one person, it is useless as evidence.

It may be useless to you, but it sure isn't useless to me.

 

[L Gilbert]

It may be useless to you, but it sure isn't useless to me.

Irrelevant. Prove that you have conclusive proof.

 

[gerryh]

Irrelevant. Prove that you have conclusive proof.

Why?

 

[L Gilbert]

Why?

Because it would show that you know what you said you knew. Otherwise, I (or anyone) could say anything I can imagine without providing evidence and say I have evidence for it but won't provide it. But, whatever I would say would still mean little to anyone except me.

 

[gerryh]

Because it would show that you know what you said you knew. Otherwise, I (or anyone) could say anything I can imagine without providing evidence and say I have evidence for it but won't provide it. But, whatever I would say would still mean little to anyone except me.

Sorry, personal revelations would mean nothing to you. Whether you believe me or not doesn't matter to me. I don't know you, and your opinion of what I believe or don't believe doesn't matter to me.

 

[L Gilbert]

Then there's no point is commenting to me that you know something rather than just thinking you know it.

 

[gerryh]

Then there's no point is commenting to me that you know something rather than just thinking you know it.

I was just pointing out the arrogance, the same arrogance that adopted shows. If you can't see it. Not a hell of a lot I can do about that.