Muslims face negative perception in Canada, study suggests

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Then define equality? Will this be easy - No - Have fun.
Inequality runs a wide gamut - From a person’s opinion based upon the others height, weight, looks, grammar. And a host of other life encounters I can come up with. That is why I suggested a specific Thread. It is a complex issue.

I wonder how many people would REALLY want to be equal! Even the thought of it scares the living bejesus out of me. We could end up with everyone in the world being a plumber, or an undertaker!
I think diversity would be much better!
 

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I wonder how many people would REALLY want to be equal! Even the thought of it scares the living bejesus out of me. We could end up with everyone in the world being a plumber, or an undertaker!

Well they could mostly be good looking like you and I are. But on the other hand, what about the ugly ones. Damm that ain't equal now is it. Guess I am off to the CHRC.
 

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Then define equality? Will this be easy - No - Have fun.
Inequality runs a wide gamut - From a person’s opinion based upon the others height, weight, looks, grammar. And a host of other life encounters I can come up with. That is why I suggested a specific Thread. It is a complex issue.

I'm talking about equality before the law. It's not really that complex of an issue. If the catholic church is allowed to have their own schools then other churches should be allowed to have schools or no churches should be allowed to have schools. If the government has no business in my bedroom, then it has no business in yours or its business is in both. If a Sikh officer is allowed to wear a religious symbol on his RCMP uniform then all officers are allowed to wear religious symbols on their uniform or nobody is.
 

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I'm talking about equality before the law. It's not really that complex of an issue.
I agree, it is that simple. But you don't actually believe that. It's just something you say to perpetuate a facade of enlighten logic, when it suits you.

If the catholic church is allowed to have their own schools then other churches should be allowed to have schools or no churches should be allowed to have schools. If the government has no business in my bedroom, then it has no business in yours or its business is in both. If a Sikh officer is allowed to wear a religious symbol on his RCMP uniform then all officers are allowed to wear religious symbols on their uniform or nobody is.
I agree with all of that. The part you omitted, is the part where your prejudices show up, and where you and I part ways.

As far as you're concerned, everyone should be equal before the law, except First Nations.

As you have made perfectly clear, numerous times. Which is, despite many attempts on my part to get you to either concede or correct your erroneous claims/accusations, why you have proven yourself to have a racial prejudice towards First Nations, ie: a racist.

And again...

Could it be that CB secretly accepts that he gets more than his fair share and he dislikes people like me upsetting his apple cart.
What do I get, that no other Canadian has access to?

I won't hold my breath waiting for an answer. It's one of the few things you're actually consistent at. Not answering direct questions, to support your erroneous accusations/claims.
 
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Cannuck

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He says, after changing the quote of my post to say something that wasn't said, in order to attack me...

A thousand pardons, all this time I thought you have been calling me a racist.

That's not what makes you a racist. A term I was loathed to apply. But you earned it on your own.

Oops, I guess I wasn't dreaming it. Speaking of racism, you have posted on here that you counsel young trouble aboriginals. My daughter is currently in the sociology program at the U of L. She would like to counsel "people" and doesn't seem to care about their heritage. That's the way she was brought up.

Why does having to try and out smart a Native person, make your principles so flexible, warm jello like even?

You being a "native person" has nothing to do with it, nor am I trying to out smart you. I'm simply making fun of you like I do with Dasleeper, JLM, EAO and others and I have no idea about their background nor does it matter to me. Look around the forum. You would not be able to tell the background of >99% of the posters here if you randomly read twenty of their posts. The same can not be said of you. Clearly your race is important to you and obviously, you are projecting that onto others.

Which is the same reason Treaties, are not race based.

No, they were nation to nation. We've been through all this before.

That makes me laugh. Especially since you cry when people don't support their claims, in discussions with you.

Cry? I haven't cried once since I started posting here. It's just not that important to me. But in any event, your statement suggests others (probably you) don't support their claims in discussions with me (obviously because you think it makes me cry. Who (other than yourself) do you feel is not supporting their claims when they are having discussions with me?

As far as you're concerned, everyone should be equal before the law, except First Nations.

As usual, you are wrong. If you are a Canadian, you and I should be treated the same under the law. That was my position. That is my position and that will probably continue to be my position. I'm sorry if you are having trouble understanding my position, if it is clarity you want them perhaps it would help if you stopped stomping your feet and screaming RACISM and actually asked for clarification.
 

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Speaking of racism, you have posted on here that you counsel young trouble aboriginals. My daughter is currently in the sociology program at the U of L. She would like to counsel "people" and doesn't seem to care about their heritage. That's the way she was brought up.
I work with at risk Native youth because I was asked to, in a specific area. And although it is a Native youth group, that teaches Anish history, tradition and spirituality, it is open to anyone that wants to attended.

Your assumption says more about your lack of knowledge and preconceived notions, based on a projection of racial inequality.

If you want, I'll forward the details of the program, and a link, to Ron, whom I trust. And he can confirm my statement of eligibility to access.

I'd offer it to you, but given the lies and ignorance contained in your posts, and your proven track record of placing innocent third parties at risk, for personal gain. You simply are not trustworthy in any way shape or form.

Clearly your race is important to you and obviously, you are projecting that onto others.
You've confused race for heritage, when it suits you. Because most of the time, it's my race that you address. It's simply why I'm so important to you.

No, they were nation to nation. We've been through all this before.
I know, because I'm the one that made you look stupid, and forced you to accept that they weren't race based.

Cry? I haven't cried once since I started posting here.
Oh the conversations with RCS "Cannuck- Where did I say that?"

It's ok pumpkin, I know you're full of double standards, hypocrisy and logical inconsistencies. That's why I find you so amusing.

And again...

Could it be that CB secretly accepts that he gets more than his fair share and he dislikes people like me upsetting his apple cart.
What do I get, that no other Canadian has access to?

I won't hold my breath waiting for an answer. It's one of the few things you're actually consistent at. Not answering direct questions, to support your erroneous accusations/claims.
 

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You've confused race for heritage, when it suits you. Because most of the time, it's my race that you address. It's simply why I'm so important to you.

I don't care about your race or your heritage. Sorry to disappoint.

I see that you didn't ask you clarification. Obviously my position is not as important to you as your need to scream RACISM. You sound more and more like Hedy Fry every day

Oh the conversations with RCS "Cannuck- Where did I say that?"

So you equate asking a question with crying....interesting. Perhaps this is a big part of your problems
 

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I'm talking about equality before the law. It's not really that complex of an issue. If the catholic church is allowed to have their own schools then other churches should be allowed to have schools or no churches should be allowed to have schools.

The Catholic Church built and operated their own schools way back in the day and developed in a parallel fashion with the system that we have today. That said, any other religion, ideology or philosophy has that very same opportunity, including the ability to receive the per student funding that both the public and separate schools receive.

What you and Machjo seem to be expounding is the notion that society owes it to build, develop and operate a school on their behalf, all in the name of equality... It doesn't work that way.
 

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I don't care about your race or your heritage. Sorry to disappoint.
That's not true, hence the special attention you give me, and especially my race...

And then there's this...

You just are that important to me...

I see that you didn't ask you clarification.
Clarification of what? You've made it perfectly clear you have a fixation with First nation and me.

Obviously my position is not as important to you as your need to scream RACISM.
As has been pointed out, and you can ignore it all you want, you earned the label, and I've proven so.

You sound more and more like Hedy Fry every day
So you say, without any proof of course.

So you equate asking a question with crying....interesting. Perhaps this is a big part of your problems
Nope, it was your reactions that were near tearful. I was just trying to refresh your memory.
 

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What you and Machjo seem to be expounding is the notion that society owes it to build, develop and operate a school on their behalf, all in the name of equality... It doesn't work that way.

That's not what I'm expounding. I have no idea what Macho is expounding. I am expounding equality of citizens before the law.

Clearly, there are others here that disagree with the concept
 

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Of course muslims face a negative perception in Canada. They segrgate themselves, for the most part and haven't made any effort to understand, respect or fit into the society they came here to live within. It's not Canada's fault either, it's their own fault. Go to a Muslim country and see how they treat you. They have it easy, most of them shouldn't be here.

As for the Native school thing, meh, they weren't the only kids treated poorly by Catholic schools. Nobody else is lining up for money, but then again, in Canada, nobody else ever does line up for money.
 

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That's not what I'm expounding. I have no idea what Macho is expounding. I am expounding equality of citizens before the law.


Great, so we're on the same page then.... The law clearly states that any group can operate their own schools provided that they do so within the standards that are set by the province.

Case closed then on the "equality in education" issue, right?
 

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Great, so we're on the same page then.... The law clearly states that any group can operate their own schools provided that they do so within the standards that are set by the province.

Case closed then on the "equality in education" issue, right?

I have no idea as I don't have the inside track on what the standards are for each province. Do you?
 

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Yep... They're dictated by each province.

... Or are you suggesting that there is a discord in the equality in terms of the standards between provinces?

I'm saying that I don't know what the standards are in each province.

What I do know is that Alberta allows "Charter Schools" and according to the provincial government, "A charter school is a public school that provides a basic education in a different or enhanced way to improve student learning". There is no requirement for Catholic schools to do this. I know because my kids go to a Catholic school.