should we be thankful they didn't taser him?

[lone wolf]

Too bad there wasn't a blanket handy

 

[CDNBear]

FFS, it was a set of handcuffs, not an ironmaiden.

"We decided that restraining him was what we were going to do," said Kwong, explaining the decision to control the child with handcuffs rather than physical force.

Seems reasonable to me.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Bear, you really wanna go there with me?

My wife has an 8 year old with aspergers in her dayhome.

We have 4 boys and 1 girl with add/adhd.

My wife is adhd

I have a nephew with severe autism that can get very violent.

I'm just counting up how many pairs of handcuffs we are going to need.:lol:

 

[gerryh]

Your point?

A nine year old isn't capable of being dangerous?

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Well shyte, of course, most 9 year old asperger sufferers carry a glock.

 

[CDNBear]

I'm just counting up how many pairs of handcuffs we are going to need.:lol:

I need to sets if you include me.

My wrists don't meet behind my back.

 

[gerryh]

I'm just counting up how many pairs of handcuffs we are going to need.:lol:

Yup, because kids are THE most dangerous thing on the earth today. Can't be too careful.

 

[CDNBear]

Well shyte, of course, most 9 year old asperger sufferers carry a glock.

:roll:

Ya ya Gh, every kid is harmless.

Yup, because kids are THE most dangerous thing on the earth today. Can't be too careful.

Now you're starting to sound like Abtfet.

 

[gerryh]

:roll:

Ya ya Gh, every kid is harmless.


Now you're starting to sound like Abtfet.

Then abtfet just moved up a few notches.

Every kid is "harmless" untill proven otherwise., Fu ckin useless cops that handcuff 9 year old asperger sufferers...... well.... below contempt. Get another job moron, cause obviously you can't do the one your in now if you NEED to handcuff a 9 year old.

 

[CDNBear]

Then abtfet just moved up a few notches.

I doubt it.

Every kid is "harmless" untill proven otherwise.

Ya, I think the violent episode and the barricade, I'd say they were justified.

Fu ckin useless cops that handcuff 9 year old asperger sufferers...... well.... below contempt. Get another job moron, cause obviously you can't do the one your in now if you NEED to handcuff a 9 year old.

:roll:

 

[DurkaDurka]

This sort of behavior seems par for the course for the Toronto Cops. They've hired far too many physically incompetent cops over the years, the fact they cannot control a kid doesn't surprise me.

 

[CDNBear]

This sort of behavior seems par for the course for the Toronto Cops. They've hired far too many physically incompetent cops over the years, the fact they cannot control a kid doesn't surprise me.

What are you talking about?

They controlled him.

And to protect him and others, they handcuffed him.

What's the big deal?

 

[DurkaDurka]

What are you talking about?

They controlled him.

And to protect him and others, they handcuffed him.

What's the big deal?

The recent hires of the Toronto Police tend to be about 5'2 and a 100 lbs without the ability to convey authority or even a tad bit of fear in a suspect so they tend more to rely on their toys.

I just think there is something wrong with cuffing a child unless he is an immediate threat to the safety of the officer. I remember kids having a spaz as a child without having to get the cops and handcuffs involved.

 

[CDNBear]

The recent hires of the Toronto Police tend to be about 5'2 and a 100 lbs without the ability to convey authority or even a tad bit of fear in a suspect so they tend more to rely on their toys.

Their authority has been eroded by bad Cops and people that dump on them when they use armchair opinion to condemn them...

There was a time when just the badge and uniform garnered respect.

I just think there is something wrong with cuffing a child unless he is an immediate threat to the safety of the officer.

Or himself, olr others. As was indicated as the Officers observations.

I remember kids having a spaz as a child without having to get the cops and handcuffs involved.

I remember wanting to go to jail instead of home.

Times have changed.

So what would the hue and cry, if they hadn't restrained huim and he seriously hurt someone?

 

[gerryh]

Maybe they and the daycare workers should learn how to physically restrain a child safely and effectively.

 

[DurkaDurka]

Their authority has been eroded by bad Cops and people that dump on them when they use armchair opinion to condemn them...

There was a time when just the badge and uniform garnered respect.

Or himself, olr others. As was indicated as the Officers observations.

I remember wanting to go to jail instead of home.

Times have changed.

So what would the hue and cry, if they hadn't restrained huim and he seriously hurt someone?

I thought it had more to do with the relaxing of physical requirements for the job?

The badge does still garner respect, but all you need is a fiasco like G20 to unwind that goodwill people feel towards the police.

Probably was a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario, but the optics of the former is not exactly great PR.

 

[CDNBear]

Maybe they and the daycare workers should learn how to physically restrain a child safely and effectively.

Ya, all Cops should be daycare, social workers...:roll:

They could have all the training in the world, and when something goes wrong, they'll still be the bad guys.

Must be nice to have all the answers, while never any of the responsibility.

I thought it had more to do with the relaxing of physical requirements for the job?

That's just why they reach for the toys more often.

The badge does still garner respect, but all you need is a fiasco like G20 to unwind that goodwill people feel towards the police.

Couldn't agree more.

Probably was a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario, but the optics of the former is not exactly great PR.

Yep. Sometimes you just can't win.

 

[gerryh]

Ya, all Cops should be daycare, social workers...:roll:

They could have all the training in the world, and when something goes wrong, they'll still be the bad guys.

Must be nice to have all the answers, while never any of the responsibility.

Yup, you're right. I have never had the responsibility.

 

[CDNBear]

Yup, you're right. I have never had the responsibility.

You have the responsibility of your immediate area, the people in your charge.

So I hope you don't think you share the same level of responsibility the Cops have.

 

[SLM]

I think the police in general have an overwhelming responsibility. As such, I do personally hold them in high regard and I also hold them to a very high standard in terms of their accountability for their actions. The action of handcuffing a nine year old is a situation that should prompt questions, imho. To not ask questions, whether the issue is one of optics or not, would probably be negligent.

Having said that though, I do think primary responsibility for knowing the proper methods to safely restrain a child do lie with the daycare. I'd be willing to bet, stake my life on it bet, that this is not the first time a child, let alone a special needs child, has had an outburst at a care facility. It is the first time I've personally ever heard of where the police have been called in to deal with it.

 

[CDNBear]

Toronto Police handcuff 9-year-old Autistic boy - YouTube!

The daycare abused her sons rights?

What about the rights of the other students?

This women is what is so wrong with society today.

A simpleminded byproduct of the mememe self help book generation.

Police restrain boy, 9, with handcuffs at Toronto daycare

The boy's mother is reportedly considering legal action against police, telling Citytv her son has been traumatized by the experience.

I hope all the parents of the other kids take legal action against Austin's mother Linda.