Define American

Annyev

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There are people who have applied and waited forever to enter the US legally. It's cost them time and loads of money. That fact never gets mentioned or consideration from illegals.
 

karrie

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No person who enters any country in violation of the laws of that country should be rewarded with citizenship. No exceptions at all. Jose, of this film, needs to go back to Mexico and petition for LAWFUL

Sorry, but I would even apply that to my own father, if he were still alive. He entered the USA illegally, claimed to have been born in Minneapolis BEFORE Minnesota required birth certificates, he voted, and it turned out that he was CANADIAN.

Had I, or my full siblings, discovered this while he was alive, we would have turned him in ourselves.

Why would you send him to Mexico?

Frankly, if you didn't even watch the vid, I really don't care about your view.
 

TenPenny

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Canada has some interesting new rules about citizenship, one of which means that some children born of Canadian citizens won't necessarily be Canadian citizens. There's two different classes of citizen.
 

CUBert

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Jose asks, ''let's talk - what would you do?''

Well, suppose you are American born, a veteran or child of a veteran, who paid his taxes all his life, lived by the rules, and are the guy who applied for the journalist job he got?

Who cares? The job should go to whoever is most qualified. If Jose is most qualified it goes to him, If Joe Blow is more qualified, then it goes to him and that's how it should be .
 

Cliffy

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Define American? The term American can't be defined because it means nothing any more. Once it meant something. It was an idea. But the idea died. A nation based on a dead idea has no reason to exist. That's what happened to the Soviet Union. That's what is happening to the land south of Canada.
Neither the US of A or Canada are what they were set out to be. Our democracies have been hijacked by corporations and a ruling class that don't care about personal freedoms or any of the principles that both countries were founded on. All they care about is power and control which is based on controlling the economy and governments.
 

ironsides

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Don't know about Canada, but we will have our country back in 2012. Corporations are not the problem, Socialist/Leftists are.
 

Cliffy

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Don't know about Canada, but we will have our country back in 2012. Corporations are not the problem, Socialist/Leftists are.
If you really believe that, there is no hope for you or your country. Republicans and Democrats both dance to the tune of the same ring masters. Bush and Obama and all those before them for the last 100 years are puppets of the oligarchy. I'm afraid if you want your country back, you will have to have another revolution. The Republicans are not going to save your collective asses. They will just take you farther down the hole that Bush dug up with the Patriot Act.
 

ironsides

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If you really believe that, there is no hope for you or your country. Republicans and Democrats both dance to the tune of the same ring masters. Bush and Obama and all those before them for the last 100 years are puppets of the oligarchy. I'm afraid if you want your country back, you will have to have another revolution. The Republicans are not going to save your collective asses. They will just take you farther down the hole that Bush dug up with the Patriot Act.

We will never have a third party in our lifetimes, so yes it will be either a Republican or Democrat in 2012 and any hope for any change will have to come from a individual and since Obama is in a rut, it will be a Republican.
 

Cliffy

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We will never have a third party in our lifetimes, so yes it will be either a Republican or Democrat in 2012 and any hope for any change will have to come from a individual and since Obama is in a rut, it will be a Republican.
Then you had better stock up on Vaseline and hemorrhoid medication.
 

BaalsTears

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Neither the US of A or Canada are what they were set out to be. Our democracies have been hijacked by corporations and a ruling class that don't care about personal freedoms or any of the principles that both countries were founded on. All they care about is power and control which is based on controlling the economy and governments.

Like Jeffrey Immelt of General Electric and Franklin Raines formerely of Fannie Mae?
 

The Old Medic

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An "American" is any person who legally resides anywhere in North, Central or South America.

Canadian's are "Americans, as are Argentinians.
 

karrie

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No, common convention would state we're NorthAmericans, SouthAmericans, or CentralAmericans, as 'American' refers in most modern contexts, to a citizen fo the United States of America.