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And call in to witness two witnesses, out of your men; or if the two be not men,then one man and two women, such witnesses as you approve of; that if one of the two women errs, the other will 'remind and admonish' her;
Slightly different wording than the translation I used, but that's what I said, women are considered to be less reliable witnesses than men.
 

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Slightly different wording than the translation I used, but that's what I said, women are considered to be less reliable witnesses than men.

Glory be to God: Allahu Akbar
I cited all the three Quran revelations, and I said let them see the marvels of the Quran: the detailed witness case and the writer condition and other details, and see how God made all such details in these summarised words, and you left all this and ran after how to disable the Quran.
Anyhow, the translation of the interpretation differ in meaning and explaining much difference from other translations; and by God's will I shall write the translation of the interpretation.

Of course, they are not similar in witness. How can they be the same: is the child like the adult man or is the adult man like the elderly who is liable to forget.

This is for justice: the woman is more liable to follow her emotion; in other words: the female usually is influenced by the emotional affection, so that if she is pleased with someone, she may conceal the truth, or she may say: this man is poor, let me say some words for his advantage, or don't mention some words that may be against him, and so the other woman will remind her and say to her: Beware of God and speak the truth; whether poor or rich, old or young: you better say the truth; lest you should be punished in the afterlife.

The interpretation of the late interpreter Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly:
"God made two women, in case there is no man availble, in order that if one of the two women concealed the witness for any reason, then the other woman who tells the truth, will remind the first one to speak the truth and remind her about God's punishment in case she conceals the truth in her witness."

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Correction:
In the reply #80 I said (who belonged to three wives of Joseph) ; the correct is (who belonged to three wives of Jacob)
 

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And I suppose, men never lie. What a crock. Men lie all the time. A man's word is no better than a woman's. And men are just as emotional as women, they just hide it better because society frowns on men showing emotion. This makes men dishonest and also somewhat psychotic for not expressing them. In this the Quran is in complete err probably because it was written by men.
 

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The witnesses according to the Quran

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(O believers, let there be a testimony that you should keep up between you, when any of you is on the point of death, at the time of bequeathing –shall be two men of equity among you [Muslims] or two of [those] other than you [: two non-Muslims] – if you travel throughout the earth and the incident of death befalls you; you detain them both after the prayer, and let them both swear by God – in case you doubt [their truth – ]: "We will not sell it for any price, eventhough the [beneficiary] were our near kinsman, nor will we hide the testimony of God, or else we should the be sinful."

But then, if it is afterwards ascertained that both of them merit [the suspicion of] sin, let two others stand forth in stead of them, of those nearly concerned, on whom it is incumbent [to swear], and let them swear by God, [saying]: Surely our testimony is truer than their testimony and we have not trespassed [the truth], for then indeed we should be of the evil-doers.

As such, it is more likely that they will bear true witness, or they will fear that oaths [of the kinsmen of the deceased] other than theirs may be acquired. Ward off [the punishment of] God and hearken [to the admonishing], for God guides not the disobedient people [to Paradise.])

The above between brackets is the explanation of the Quran 5: 106-108
يِا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ شَهَادَةُ بَيْنِكُمْ إِذَاحَضَرَ أَحَدَكُمُ الْمَوْتُ حِينَ الْوَصِيَّةِ اثْنَانِ ذَوَا عَدْلٍ مِّنكُمْأَوْ آخَرَانِ مِنْ غَيْرِكُمْ إِنْ أَنتُمْ ضَرَبْتُمْ فِي الأَرْضِفَأَصَابَتْكُم مُّصِيبَةُ الْمَوْتِ تَحْبِسُونَهُمَا مِن بَعْدِ الصَّلاَةِفَيُقْسِمَانِ بِاللّهِ إِنِ ارْتَبْتُمْ لاَ نَشْتَرِي بِهِ ثَمَنًا وَلَوْ كَانَذَا قُرْبَى وَلاَ نَكْتُمُ شَهَادَةَ اللّهِ إِنَّا إِذًا لَّمِنَ الآثِمِينَ

فَإِنْ عُثِرَ عَلَى أَنَّهُمَا اسْتَحَقَّا إِثْمًافَآخَرَانِ يِقُومَانُ مَقَامَهُمَا مِنَ الَّذِينَ اسْتَحَقَّ عَلَيْهِمُالأَوْلَيَانِ فَيُقْسِمَانِ بِاللّهِ لَشَهَادَتُنَا أَحَقُّ مِن شَهَادَتِهِمَاوَمَا اعْتَدَيْنَا إِنَّا إِذًا لَّمِنَ الظَّالِمِينَ
ذَلِكَ أَدْنَى أَن يَأْتُواْ بِالشَّهَادَةِ عَلَى وَجْهِهَاأَوْ يَخَافُواْ أَن تُرَدَّ أَيْمَانٌ بَعْدَ أَيْمَانِهِمْ وَاتَّقُوا اللّهَوَاسْمَعُواْ وَاللّهُ لاَ يَهْدِي الْقَوْمَ الْفَاسِقِينَ

The story of the two Christians, who betrayed the trust and stole the property of a deceased Muslim, is told in (The interpretation of the ambiguous ayat of the Quran)
سورة المائدة
سورة المائدة

And I suppose, men never lie. What a crock. Men lie all the time. A man's word is no better than a woman's. And men are just as emotional as women, they just hide it better because society frowns on men showing emotion. This makes men dishonest and also somewhat psychotic for not expressing them. In this the Quran is in complete err probably because it was written by men.


You pointed out to the truth, while you don't intend to do so.
On the contrary, if God said: the man is like the woman in witness, it would be the error. Glory be to God.
 

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I can answer it, but I'm not going to until Islam gets back together the school like they had in Baghdad sometime around the 6th to 8th century. I apologize if I got the exact dates wrong. You guys so had it together then, and then selfish-minded little rat-brained politics destroyed it.

Good luck with that. Based on the examples we have on this forum, it will be a long time before the Islamic world returns to the glory days of science, knowledge, medicine, and thought.
 

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...I said let them see the marvels of the Quran...
If you think the Quran's ignorant and sexist judgment--which evidently you share--about the relatively poorer quality of female witnesses is a marvel, your standards for deciding what's marvelous are not just too low, but wrong.
 

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You pointed out to the truth, while you don't intend to do so.
On the contrary, if God said: the man is like the woman in witness, it would be the error. Glory be to God.

God does not say that women are lesser to men. You do and your infernal clap trap based on a flawed book written by men for the glorification of men. In any western country you would be considered a male chauvinist pig and would be beaten with in an inch of your life by women. Stay where you are, because your attitude will get you serious pain.
 

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Ha ha ha, Omicron

http://tunes.digitalock.com/fromsmallthingsonedaybigthingscome.mp3 <-- click or Ron will ask me what I'm doing.

Your love for money is macro not micro :D
Oh good, so you know the difference.

Do you worship money Omicron? Do you envy people that God gave them oil and rivers and blessings?
Do you worship food clothing and shelter?

Do you have church of the cotton fabric? Do you have a church of the sweet potato? Do you have a church of the holy roof?

So go yourself to the space: there you will find much gold and precious metals, and come back again like Koran with his treasures; although his wealth made him a blasphemer and antagonised Moses the apostle of God.
My head is berjongled. I give you a chance to make things clean in all the right way by money being spent to build Arab rockets into space for the occupants to land unto a new world to bumble around on a dry arid planet wishing you'd brought camels, and all you can do is lay back and smoke bomb and jerk off with four wives if you have them

I repeat. Have you ever read the Koran?

It is not the gold and silver that make man happy and God be pleased with him: it is the believing in God as One God without associate and to work righteous work --> so he will prosper in the next afterlife, and in this World also he will live under God's protection and God takes care about him.
Oh really... so the purpose of this life is to build up torture points in order to get a higher grade in heaven?

Does the Koran teach that people were put into this world in order to see how much pain they can endure, such that those capable of the most suffering get the highest levels up there?

Then what?

If that's true, ever clue on you the spiritual forces are just lining you up and priming you for the real war, which is in heaven?

So if you guide people to God --> God will guide you to Paradise,
while if you antagonise God and misguide people --> God will misguide you and you will not find the way to Paradise.
Oh really.

http://tunes.digitalock.com/crawlingfromthewreckage.mp3 <-- click to play

Ever read the Koran?

Ever notice how Mohammad was asked where the Queen of Sheba came from?

Ever notice how he gave them an utterly intelligent answer, such that to this day we now know where she came from?

I so know the answer to this but I'm not going to tell you until you prove to me you have read the Koran.

I know exactly where to rebuild Sheba's kingdom, and I notice how the only thing stopping it is some Yemeni tribe's boys with the visionary IQ of a hamster claiming possession over the space, so if you're frikkin' revelation of Allah is so great why don't you help to make things better?

Afghans might make a fortune selling opium to Russians, but in a second I could make a fortune selling high grade bud to Afghans. They'd start to think, and then the economics would change.

Then I'd show them oil-seed crops that grow perfect on their soil in their climate, and I'd guarantee if they delivered a crop they'd get enough to feed their family.

What are you doing? Bonging it up with the MBAs?
 
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Not every witness is accepted whether it be a man or a woman; the witness should be accepted by the creditor and approved by the judge.
 

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In this NASA image of Mercury taken by their MESSENGER probe: we see
>> The surface of the planet is very clear and apparent, because no atmosphere is there on Mercury. (notice that Venus has its atmosphere full of smoke)
>> The large number of craters due to the impact of a large number of comets; because the planet lost its internal heat and become attractive for the comets which prefer to fall on the cold objects and cold regions.
Such crater has its flat bottom, because the comet digs under the ground to disappear at some depth from the surface of the planet.
>> This side of Mercury is the side of the perpetual day where the sunrays always shine and the temperature on the surface is very high.
>> In this day-side of Mercury we see the planet levelled and have no much high lands and other depressions: because it is seared by the sunheat which smashed the rocks of mountains --> converting them to sandhills which later on were carried by the wind to the valleys and depressions leading to its being levelled. Such winds then disappeared after the disappearance of the atmosphere and its lost into the outer space.

Such flattening of the side facing the Sun, will occur also on Earth following its standstill from its axial rotation.

Mountains will be dispersed
 

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When did comets develop reasoning skills? They go where gravity draws them, momentum takes them and bump into (fall on) whatever happens to be in the way.

Earth would look pretty much the same were it not for an atmosphere that burns up the smaller stuff, erosion and weathering of craters that exist, and water and vegetation that mostly hides them.
 

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When did comets develop reasoning skills? They go where gravity draws them, momentum takes them and bump into (fall on) whatever happens to be in the way.

Earth would look pretty much the same were it not for an atmosphere that burns up the smaller stuff, erosion and weathering of craters that exist, and water and vegetation that mostly hides them.


Comets follow the physical laws that God inserted in the universe. Comets, being hot objects, are attracted to the cold regions.
Comets

Earth relatively has a far less number of craters caused mostly by comets: like the lake in Tunguska, and the crater of Arizona, and some other similar craters;

while on Moon (a cold object) there is a very large number of such craters;
the same is on Mercury (which has a cold core.)

I think Venus now has much many impact craters but that is not so visible because of its turbid atmosphere.
 

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When it will fall on you, you will know then for certain is it a hot object or a cold one :D
The fireball of Canada
Space objects are hot when they impact the Earth because they burn up in the atmosphere, not because they were hot in outer space. There is little friction in space because there is almost no atmosphere so objects are cold. Again your book is untrue.
 

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If they are cold in the space, why have they long tails?



You cannot escape; can you?
Tails are dust particles freed as their icy head is warmed by the star they approach. Far out in space, a comet has very little 'tail'.

If something a metre in diameter can punch a hole many metres wide and around a quarter as many deep into granite, a soft object like the human body doesn't stand a snowball's chance in Hell - but it would be over fast and painlessly....
 

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You guys do all know that it's hopeless trying to explain anything to eanassir if it's different from what's in the only two books he reads, don't you?