How about them Canucks!

Mowich

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well, if they can get themselves out of this fix, and move on, then this experience can be a positive
one, but they have shook themselves up pretty good now, they are fragile, and they have to remember
how good they have been and get back to that, BUT in all of this I have to repeat again, how chicago
have re discovered themselves, and duncan keith is playing like the norris trophy winner that he is,
and inspired the rest of his team, so it's not all about the canucks self destructing, its also about
chicago.
who would have thought after game 3 that chicago could play like that,

and also, those first 3 goals of the game. I watched chicago get three redirects, one right
after the other and a breakaway, AND I saw canucks shoot many shots from the point that could have
been redirected into the net, throughout the game, and weren't, sometimes they go in and sometimes they don't, BUT yes
that is only part of it, as canucks forgot how good they are, and lost their rythym and trust in
one another, and began playing like individuals, so one thing leads to another, and if it was
canucks who had scored those 3 redirects things could have and would have been different.

I'm sure chicago said to each other after that first period. WOW, everything went 'in' the
goal that period,
and sometimes it is like that.

As much as its so easy to have emotional reactions, and get mad, a realistic look at exactly how
the results came about works for me, after all it's just a game of hockey, not life threatening.

I won't take a thing away from the Hawks and much as I would like to see Vancouver win, I am a big fan of Captain Serious and give him and the team full credit for playing so well. Coming as it did on the heels of the Habs loss last night, the Cannucks loss was even more upsetting to me, but it helps to keep perspective and realize that the win or loss of a sports team really doesn't change anything in my life. Would love to see both the Habs and Cannucks win and will cheer them to the end.

GO, CANNUCKS, GO.
 

talloola

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I won't take a thing away from the Hawks and much as I would like to see Vancouver win, I am a big fan of Captain Serious and give him and the team full credit for playing so well. Coming as it did on the heels of the Habs loss last night, the Cannucks loss was even more upsetting to me, but it helps to keep perspective and realize that the win or loss of a sports team really doesn't change anything in my life. Would love to see both the Habs and Cannucks win and will cheer them to the end.

GO, CANNUCKS, GO.

yes, I agree, doesn't change anything in my life, but it sure will be a downer summer for the canuck
boys, if they don't pull this off, so for their sake and their families and management I hope they
turn that momentum around and win the series.

I do not like the idea of playing schneider next game, if the game does not go well, and luongo has
to come out, so be it, but it was not his doing that the team played so bad, so he should not be
punished, or just the big change because of the losses, nope I don't like that.

The skaters are the ones who have to turn this around, not the goalie.

Canucks would not have been up 3 games to 0 if it wasn't for luongo, and almost all of those goals
in the last two games were team mistakes. Those first 3 games were closer than some might to see,
and luongo was a big part of that success.

I listened to a good interview with trevor linden this morning, he talked about those games and the
team, very level headed and intelligent, a very good listen.

The momentum got reversed, and hit the canucks like a ton of bricks, now they have to find a way to
get it back, Henrik mentioned in his interview how they had similar situations in the l.a. series
last year, and got the momentum back, and said how they must do that now.

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I was so surprised last night when I found out that boston had taken over the series, as I watched
the first period, and it was all, (and I mean all) montreal, its amazing how the playoffs can jump
back and forth.

Same in the san jose series, last game, again l.a. was dominating the game, up 4-0, I went away for
awhile, then came back and it was 5-5, went into overtime and san jose won it 6-5, and left l.a.
scratchings their heads.

Luongo is a Vezina nominee?

Ha!

did you not check his stats at the end of season? why would you question that nomination.
 

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yes, I agree, doesn't change anything in my life, but it sure will be a downer summer for the canuck
boys, if they don't pull this off, so for their sake and their families and management I hope they
turn that momentum around and win the series.

Man, are you ever funny.:lol:
 

Kreskin

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There is more on the line here than a potential simple playoff series loss. I certainly hope they win but if the Canucks lose this series it will cement a reputation that will hurt the legacies of this core group throughout their careers. They know it and that's why they've been playing like psyched-out stiffs.
 

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There is more on the line here than a potential simple playoff series loss. I certainly hope they win but if the Canucks lose this series it will cement a reputation that will hurt the legacies of this core group throughout their careers. They know it and that's why they've been playing like psyched-out stiffs.

I don't recall a playoff round where a team has come back from being down 3/0- I know the Canucks came back from being down 3/1 on at least 3 occasions, but they failed on the most important one in N.Y.R. in 1994.
 

talloola

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You are the anti fan and for some reason remind me of this quote.

I can't get that link to work ---

There is more on the line here than a potential simple playoff series loss. I certainly hope they win but if the Canucks lose this series it will cement a reputation that will hurt the legacies of this core group throughout their careers. They know it and that's why they've been playing like psyched-out stiffs.

That is, if each player wants to buy into the so-called 'cemented reputation', but they are very mentally strong
people, that is how they became NHL ers to begin with, they have the ability to 'overcome', and i'm
sure they all have their stories of dissapointment during their careers, going way back to minors.
It is the media and fans who will carry 'so called' failure around with them and
won't seem to be able to 'move on', as though it was them who suffered, and not
the players and coaches, and the media and fans will throw it into the faces of the
organization every year, just like they live on about the 40 years without a cup,
and I am so glad I won't/can't do that, it's just not who I am, thankfully.
Out of the 32 teams, half do not make the playoffs, and the other half battle away in
playoffs, with 'only' two teams remaining, so out of 32 teams, just 2, 'according' to the media, are
successful, and even out of the two, 'according to the media', 1 of the 2 is a failure, and only 1 is the
successful team. If they all dragged themselves around every year because they don't win the cup,
they wouldn't make a very bright picture, but 'they don't, they pick themselves up, and try again,
that is 'life', in many different catagories.

The sad part I think is -- if they aren't successful in at least two rounds of the playoffs, the
coaching staff will probably be fired, and that is too bad, because they have done an exceptional job with
this team, but it is the old method of doing things, they are the easiest to dismiss, but i'm jumping
ahead of myself, and I would like to see them grab the momentum and swing it back there way, we'll see
how it goes. The media and many fans have panicked here, it is apparant, they have great story lines,
and they are running with them big time.
If the organization/players panicked and worried about what fans/media said and
thought, they would go crazy, but they put that information where it belongs,
in the gossip column, and they deal with reality.

Good luck to the canucks on sunday, they are still ahead in this series, and can't lose it until they
have lost the 7th game, an advantage they have mostly because of their goalie,
because those first 3 games were closer than most realize, and luongo was the
difference.

I don't recall a playoff round where a team has come back from being down 3/0- I know the Canucks came back from being down 3/1 on at least 3 occasions, but they failed on the most important one in N.Y.R. in 1994.

there is a stat, not sure, but I seem to remember that it has been done 4 times, the most recent
being last season when philly came back from a 3-0 deficit with boston,and won the series with 4 straight wins,
but it is very difficult to do, but if chicago do it, all the more power to them, but it hasn't
happened yet, they are still the team that is behind in the series, and just because they won the
last two, doesn't give them anything but 2 wins.

Man, are you ever funny.:lol:

not sure what is funny about that, it is just the simple truth, if they lose this round, or even
the next one, they won't shake it off until they get their skates on in the fall and begin a new
journey, then it will be behind them, and they try again.

these players need the summer to allow their bodies to rest, and many of them need lots of healing,
as they play a lot throughout the year with aches and pains and small injuries that we never know
about, it is very hard on the body, but by september, they will be fresh and ready to go, and so
will I. lol
 
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Kreskin

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They haven't looked mentally strong at all. They are still human and feel pressure. And their legacies are important to them. They are for nearly everyone on the planet, including hockey players. Three years in a row of collapse would be a disaster for Luongo, the Sedins, Kessler..

Don't buy the talk of "it's just another game.. it doesn't matter if we lose by 1 or 6". It does matter.
 

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They haven't looked mentally strong at all. They are still human and feel pressure. And their legacies are important to them. They are for nearly everyone on the planet, including hockey players. Three years in a row of collapse would be a disaster for Luongo, the Sedins, Kessler..

Don't buy the talk of "it's just another game.. it doesn't matter if we lose by 1 or 6". It does matter.

these players are mentally strong 'people', that is what I said, people. Of course their legacies are
important to them, but not life and death as the fans and media indicate 'allready' and they haven't
even lost the series, and if they do, yes, a big dissapointment, but no, I do not agree, they will
pick themselves up, brush themselves off, and move on, and if the coaches are fired, another
dissapointment, but they 'also' will move on get other jobs, and try again, the point here being,
that these 'mentally' strong athletes don't quit, they will live to play another day, and won't
wollow in dissapointment for long, just the fans and media will do that.

Disaster is a serious word, earthquakes, japan, death, terminal illness, but not losing in hockey.
Disaster is the word that fans/media will use.
Gillis has not been managing the team for long and he has built a real nice team, and this team
has more time than this season to 'go for it'.

What do you think luongo,kesler and the sedins will do, fall on their swords? no, they will hang
their heads, but not for long, they will be back, they will not allow fans/media to dictate how
they conduct their lives or careers.
 

Kreskin

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I couldn't care less what they think of a fan.

The heat getting to them? If they lose this series (IF, they still have a chance) it will haunt them for their careers, and not a hope in hell of returning for the future. Three strikes, they're out. These guys are in their primes, it gets worse very shortly.

If they lose this series, and if I was a season ticket holder, there isn't a hope in hell I would renew my package next season. And I certainly wouldn't get too excited about any season winning streaks next season (or personal stats), because this group will have demonstrated it doesn't mean anything. I wouldn't be the only one feeling that way. GM's and owners don't take everything for granted, and they shouldn't with fans either. They know how important this series is to this franchise (and core group).

There is a lot on the line. The next game (or two) is the most important game(s) in this team's history.
 

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I couldn't care less what they think of a fan.

The heat getting to them? If they lose this series (IF, they still have a chance) it will haunt them for their careers, and not a hope in hell of returning for the future. Three strikes, they're out. These guys are in their primes, it gets worse very shortly.

The only thing they can do for fans is play their best, and try to win, beyond that, they can't
and shouldn't worry about what fans think, the fans are the worst people to depend on for support,
they only like the team when they 'please' them by winning, but they cannot handle even 2 losses
in a row, they jump on and off the bandwagon, they have tantrums, they pout and whine like children,
and they actually think they should be listened to, one day they are living in heaven, and the next
they are in hell screaming and yelling about dooms day, it is a joke.

try and get a grip kreskin, you're losing it. lol
you are a typical fan and your showing it big time. What is this three strikes they're out, what is
that. This team is set up to continue on, the contracts and the age of the players gives them
time to beef it up some more and try again.
I'm sure glad fans/media have absolutely 'no' control over how the management make decisions, if
they did, players and coaches would be fired each month. lol

It will haunt the fans/media for centuries, not the players.

Luongo isn't going anywhere, the way his contract is set up not one team could handle it, and wouldn't
want to, and he has played great.

The sedins won't go anywhere, but if this season ends with them being knocked out, gillis will
add new players, and build the team even stronger, as it is obvious that the sedins aren't quite
'tough' enough (physically), but they certainly will be part of the team again, and along with
some new additions, the team can make a run again.

I couldn't care less what they think of a fan.

The heat getting to them? If they lose this series (IF, they still have a chance) it will haunt them for their careers, and not a hope in hell of returning for the future. Three strikes, they're out. These guys are in their primes, it gets worse very shortly.

If they lose this series, and if I was a season ticket holder, there isn't a hope in hell I would renew my package next season. And I certainly wouldn't get too excited about any season winning streaks next season (or personal stats), because this group will have demonstrated it doesn't mean anything. I wouldn't be the only one feeling that way. GM's and owners don't take everything for granted, and they shouldn't with fans either. They know how important this series is to this franchise (and core group).

There is a lot on the line. The next game (or two) is the most important game(s) in this team's history.

you are 100% wrong, there is about a ten year waiting list for seasons tickets, my daughter has been on
it for about 5 years, and slowly moving up the list, and for every frenzy driven insane fan that can't
handle dissapointment this year, there will be 100 to try to take their seasons ticket, and good
riddence to them, and when they get over their tantrum and want back in, they will have to go to
the bottom of the list.
 

Kreskin

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If you don't understand the passion of a sports fan then their isn't much to talk about.
 

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If you don't understand the passion of a sports fan then their isn't much to talk about.

The average sports fan doesn't understand the workins of competition, how it works, how to win and
lose, how to be a 'sports' fan, a real sports fan. Passion doesn't describe the type of fan who
gives up so so easily, and can't handle the heat, and can't suffer losses, they only can holler
and cheer in victory.
A true sports fan has the ability to see deeply into the team they follow and truly live and die
with every game, and support them 'win or lose', but unfortunately the ones we hear from most of the
time, only want to win, and don't have the mental strength, or the passion or the willingness to
see the team thru 'everything', and they actually blame the players for losing, and accuse them
of doing it 'to them', poor babies.

Actually the toronto sports fan is a more 'real' fan than anyone in vancouver, they have had a losing
team for years and years, haven't made the playoffs for years, and they fill the building every
game, and when one watches their games, the fans are on their feet cheering and pulling for
their team, and they will be rewarded I think, in the next few years, because that team is looking
like they will begin their climb up the ladder again.

The montreal fans are 'vile', they turn on their team from period to period, BUT that building will
be filled for eternity, just as the canucks building will be filled.

Don't try to belittle me by telling me I don't have the passion of a real sports fan, I know better
you'll have to think up something better than that, I am one of those fans who will support
the canucks, win or lose, and have since their birth, and I will do that till I die.
I have never jumped on and off of any band wagon, I am with them all the way, I will criticize at
times, but I won't threaten their future, or pout because they haven't 'pleased' me, they can't
always please me or anyone else, and I will understand their failures, because we all have failures,
we are human.

GO CANUCKS GO
 

Kreskin

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The average sports fan doesn't understand the workins of competition, how it works, how to win and
lose, how to be a 'sports' fan, a real sports fan. Passion doesn't describe the type of fan who
gives up so so easily, and can't handle the heat, and can't suffer losses, they only can holler
and cheer in victory.
A true sports fan has the ability to see deeply into the team they follow and truly live and die
with every game, and support them 'win or lose', but unfortunately the ones we hear from most of the
time, only want to win, and don't have the mental strength, or the passion or the willingness to
see the team thru 'everything', and they actually blame the players for losing, and accuse them
of doing it 'to them', poor babies.

Actually the toronto sports fan is a more 'real' fan than anyone in vancouver, they have had a losing
team for years and years, haven't made the playoffs for years, and they fill the building every
game, and when one watches their games, the fans are on their feet cheering and pulling for
their team, and they will be rewarded I think, in the next few years, because that team is looking
like they will begin their climb up the ladder again.

The montreal fans are 'vile', they turn on their team from period to period, BUT that building will
be filled for eternity, just as the canucks building will be filled.

Don't try to belittle me by telling me I don't have the passion of a real sports fan, I know better
you'll have to think up something better than that, I am one of those fans who will support
the canucks, win or lose, and have since their birth, and I will do that till I die.
I have never jumped on and off of any band wagon, I am with them all the way, I will criticize at
times, but I won't threaten their future, or pout because they haven't 'pleased' me, they can't
always please me or anyone else, and I will understand their failures, because we all have failures,
we are human.

GO CANUCKS GO
Even ex players are saying that the Canucks "it doesn't mean much" political speak is bull****. Everyone's reputation matters to them, no matter if they are laborers, Presidents or hockey players. That's a blinding glimpse of the obvious.
 

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I can't get that link to work ---

Sorry about that, can't get it to work.

Here is the quote by Homer Simpson.....

“Owww look at me Marge, I'm making people Happy! I'm the magical man, from Happy Land, who lives in a gumdrop house on Lolly Pop Lane!!!!......
 

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Sorry about that, can't get it to work.

Here is the quote by Homer Simpson.....

“Owww look at me Marge, I'm making people Happy! I'm the magical man, from Happy Land, who lives in a gumdrop house on Lolly Pop Lane!!!!......

And just what the F*** has that got to do with the Vancouver Canucks? You make enough idiotic statements while on topic without having to go off topic. :roll: