Do The Conservatives Deserve Another Chance?
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Given the recession of 2008-09, I don't think he's done all that badly. A lot of the money he spent was for stimulus packages including improving infrastructure. Not sure if the stimulus was done in the best way as some "shovel ready" projects weren't all that shovel ready, but I also don't believe all of that was Harper's fault.
...and the Liberals before him had a great track record when it came to fiscal responsibility. as I've said, the Liberal financial record has been a little bit better than the Cons over the past 30 years so you'll have to come up with something better to sway my vote. The idea that the Conservatives are better at minding the cash is just laughable.
Stimulus packages equals Keynesianism.
It has failed miserably in America (unemployment stuck over 9%, a dead housing market, massive gov't. debt).
And it was a TOTAL waste up here.
Canada would have been fine without the stim's. But most people panicked, so Harper answered their panic with Keynesian Solution #1 - throw massive amounts of money that you don't have at the problem.
True.
But I don't remember the Libs objecting to the Cons massive stimulus spending.
I sometimes think that an equally effective but cheaper form of prison for some types of incorrigibles would be arctic camps surrounded by Inuit guards licensed to shoot anyone outside the perimeter.
I know the Inuit would be into it. The ones I know totally get off on the idea of being paid to shoot bad whites.
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Neither do I. I'm not defending their record, I'm just saying that the Conservative supporters always claim that their team is better when it comes to fiscal responsibility. There simply is no facts to back up that claim. I am fiscally conservative and none of the parties are trustworthy IMO. I'm also socially liberal so the Conservatives lose my vote on that accord.
I agree completely.
I cannot remember being more disgusted with politicians around the globe since this mass Stimulus spending crap took off.
Spend now, pay later.
Pathetic and the weakest form of politics there is.
Any IDIOT can spend money he/she doesn't have.
I think the Conservatives definitely deserve another chance to do what they do best.
Sit in Opposition.
Sit in Opposition.
I believe he's referring to the Liberals cancellation of the replacement for the Sea King.
We signed on as tier 3 development partners, contributing $160 million towards the development of the jet.
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McRocket; I cannot remember being more disgusted with politicians around the globe since this mass Stimulus spending crap took off. .[/QUOTE said:
Interesting note about the stimulus plan - the TARP section actually made money for the gov't:
The U.S. Treasury's bank bailout program will move into a profit for the first time on Wednesday with the expected repayment of $7.4 billion in taxpayer funds, Treasury officials said.
The transfers to the Troubled Asset Relief Program will push recoveries from banks to $251 billion in repayments of capital, dividends, interest and other income. It invested $245 billion in banks during the financial crisis to help avert a U.S. financial system collapse.
The U.S. Treasury's bank bailout program will move into a profit for the first time on Wednesday with the expected repayment of $7.4 billion in taxpayer funds, Treasury officials said.
The transfers to the Troubled Asset Relief Program will push recoveries from banks to $251 billion in repayments of capital, dividends, interest and other income. It invested $245 billion in banks during the financial crisis to help avert a U.S. financial system collapse.
Ooooooooooooh, but you're missing one major point- W.W.2 prisoners weren't criminals. :smile:
The MacKenzie River runs barges.
Actually Lone Wolf- you've just sowed the seed for a good idea. In time the north will be needing a railroad to extract minerals and diamonds etc. I really have no problems if the prisoners are shovelling tundra instead of breaking rocks (rocks might be scarce in the Arctic) so the prisoners could shovel their way to their eventual home building the railway as they go.
It costs more than $120,000 per prisoner per year to keep them incarcerated in a local pen, and much of the cost is the security to stop them from breaking out.
Presumably they'd be getting air-drops of food, so you save up the convicts in holding cells until the next food drop, then you push them onto a Herc with the food and supplies, and give them a parachute.
When the Herc gets close to the compound it drops to a low altitude and revs up the velocity while dropping the back-hatch. When it reaches the compound it does a hard nose-up and poops out the supplies and prisoners, who will survive if they put on their chute.
It's not as expensive to do periodic flights like that as it is to maintain a full penitentiary day after day.
Might be better if they just built a railroad through the tundra. With the hard labour they wouldn't have the energy to do much escaping and the mosquitos provide another discentive. Also if they don't behave the "Off" supply could also be curtailed. :smile: