More Needless Multiculturalism Problems From Immigrants

[Blackleaf]

This is the squad for the Canada cricket team which is currently taking part in the 2011 Cricket World Cup in the Indian sub-continent:

Ashish Bagai (captain), Hiral Patel, Jimmy Hansra, Karl Whatham, Nitish Kumar, Rizwan Cheema, Ruvindu Gunasekera, Tyson Gordon, Zubin Zurkari, Balaji Rao, Henry Osinde, Khurram Chohan, Parth Desai, Harvir Baidwan, John Davison.

On Thursday I watched the highlights of the Pakistan VS Canada match and nearly all the Canadian fans in the stands were Asians. This shows that not only is cricket in Canada mainly followed and played by its Pakistani, Indian, Bangladeshi and Sri Lankan immigrants but not by other Canadians, it also demonstrated Canada's ethnic diversity.

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

Cricket, a game that has never caught on in Canada. Although huge in Oz and NZ. A good example of how Canadians are not English. Aussies and Kiwis "sound" English, we do not, we "sound" American.

It might catch on possibly because it is as boring as golf. Walking around for days and not seeing much happen.

 

[petros]

How does a 12 yearold making Blizzards at a $8 hourly rate equate to a 6 yearold snitching shoes for 10 cents a hour? It doesn't

$8? Is BC still that low? They were making $12 but it was still illegal child labour. Illegal is illegal.

 

[Mowich]

Came across this article while reading CTV news reports.

http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20110306/quebec-interculturalism-110306/

MONTREAL — Amid increasingly strident criticisms of multiculturalism, both in Canada and abroad, a group of Quebec intellectuals is proposing an alternative that could save an idea that has become part of the national fabric.


Interculturalism is being branded as a new model for integration and a solution to some of the anti-immigrant backlash that has accompanied the debate in Quebec over the accommodation of minorities.


Interculturalism takes for granted the centrality of francophone culture. From there it works to integrate other minorities into a common public culture, all while respecting their diversity.


Its backers say it can also help multiculturalism weather some of the attacks it has suffered recently."

 

[Trotz]

Cricket, a game that has never caught on in Canada. Although huge in Oz and NZ. A good example of how Canadians are not English. Aussies and Kiwis "sound" English, we do not, we "sound" American.

It might catch on possibly because it is as boring as golf. Walking around for days and not seeing much happen.

We might not sound Australian but I have never been mistaken for an American. In Europe, I am always mistaken for an Englishmen or Irish but I don't sound like a Newfy or anything! Canadians tend to be more soft spoken, have a Canadian shift and raise in their pronounciation; whereas, Americans tend to have a drawl and deeper accents (which they attempt to minimalize on television). We might not register these differences (because of television) but foreigners can.


Regardless, the reason we do not play Cricket is because that was not part of our founding culture. People mistake the "English" on the census to refer to Anglophone; when in reality, most British immigrants to Canada were Scottish, Irish and Northern English and these three groups were well known for their predecessing sports to modern day field hockey, ice hockey and curling.

Whereas in Australia, the English went to considerable effort to promote cricket down there and Australia never had a similiar degree of Scottish migrants like Canada did. .

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

We might not sound Australian but I have never been mistaken for an American. In Europe, I am always mistaken for an Englishmen or Irish but I don't sound like a Newfy or anything! Canadians tend to be more soft spoken, have a Canadian shift and raise in their pronounciation; whereas, Americans tend to have a drawl and deeper accents (which they attempt to minimalize on television). We might not register these differences (because of television) but foreigners can.


Regardless, the reason we do not play Cricket is because that was not part of our founding culture. People mistake the "English" on the census to refer to Anglophone; when in reality, most British immigrants to Canada were Scottish, Irish and Northern English and these three groups were well known for their predecessing sports to modern day field hockey, ice hockey and curling.

Whereas in Australia, the English went to considerable effort to promote cricket down there and Australia never had a similiar degree of Scottish migrants like Canada did. .

When I traveled to Ireland I got mistaken for an American all the time and my father was born in Ireland. Same in Britain too.

Not would that really explain why Americans can put a Canadian flag on their backpack and pass for Canadians. We are a little different, and some people can tell, Europeans are very senstitve at times and can notice the difference if they have experience. But in Korea, all white people are Americans.

Most Canadians, who made Canada as we know it, did not come from Britain, but were the losers in the American Revolution. They had lived in the Thirteen Colonies for several generations and were no longer "English" even if they called themselves that. And we know this, because real British troops from Britain said this. And so did immigrants to early 19th century Ontario as they said it had a very American feel, since the schools used American textbooks, kind of like today.

According to our mythology, we had enough Scots to run our banking system, but I guess they never had enough time for some liesure.

 

[Trotz]

Not all Canadians are from Ontario

 

[CDNBear]

Not all Canadians are from Ontario

Liar!!!

 

[gerryh]

Not all Canadians are from Ontario

all the ones that count do.

 

[CDNBear]

all the ones that count do.

Ain't that the truth!!!

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

Not all Canadians are from Ontario

Like duh. Fact is, it was the largest English speaking province so the most is written about it. But the UELs also went to Que, NS, NB and PEI and increased their populations too. British Canada simply means after the 1759 Conquest, the end of the French regime, the start of Canada as we know it with provinces and effective legislatures.

 

[Trotz]

Most Canadians, who made Canada as we know it, did not come from Britain, but were the losers in the American Revolution. They had lived in the Thirteen Colonies for several generations and were no longer "English" even if they called themselves that. And we know this, because real British troops from Britain said this. And so did immigrants to early 19th century Ontario as they said it had a very American feel, since the schools used American textbooks, kind of like today.

According to our mythology, we had enough Scots to run our banking system, but I guess they never had enough time for some liesure.

Wrong,
you keep mistaking the province of Canada (British Empire) with Canada. There's a whole country out here west of Toronto!

Well I grew up hearing nothing but British Columbia and Prairie accents; didn't quite really meet any Ontarians until my 20's and noticed something wrong with their pronounciations. Come to think of it, Ontario is pretty darn close to New York (the Toronto of America)- so that's probably a reason you sound American.

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

Wrong,
you keep mistaking the province of Canada (British Empire) with Canada. There's a whole country out here west of Toronto!

Well I grew up hearing nothing but British Columbia and Prairie accents; didn't quite really meet any Ontarians until my 20's. Come to think of it, Ontario is pretty darn close to New York (the Toronto of America)- so that's probably a reason you sound American.

Well, you have to get out of the house more. I live in Vancouver.

Okay, go to the USA and write down the number of times people say, "Hey, you have an accent, where are you from?" Won't happen much. You don't read about this happening to Canadians in the USA. But prove me wrong if you can with links.

 

[petros]

Wrong,
you keep mistaking the province of Canada (British Empire) with Canada. There's a whole country out here west of Toronto!

Well I grew up hearing nothing but British Columbia and Prairie accents; didn't quite really meet any Ontarians until my 20's. Come to think of it, Ontario is pretty darn close to New York (the Toronto of America)- so that's probably a reason you sound American.

I used to think Don Cherry's accent was a put on until I went for dinner in North Bay and a really pretty waitress sounded just like him.

 

[Trotz]

Why would they ask if you assume your Canadian? It's not like I am speaking in broken English in a German accent.

YouTube - Don Cherry is crazy

I don't know anyone who sounds like these men here
The Ontarians I meet are often annoyed that I can spot them out.

YouTube - Michael Buble Interview on Rachael Ray- Oct 2007 - Part 1

I'm more used to people sounding like Michael Buble. You Ontarians might sound like a bunch of riff-rafts and yanks, but it's understandable how we British Columbians could be mistaken for British-sounding by non-English speakers, as per regional accent differences in Canada.

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

There's a big ad on the back page of The Globe and Mail Focus section discussing how immigration is essential to Canada.

Basically, it says multiculturalism equals immigration equals multiracialism, there is a picture of cute, and very pale Asian girl who will likely work in health care. Considering some of the absolute Canadian bitches I had when I went to the hospital, bring the Asians in!

Which I agree, Canada needs some immigrants. But reading it says Canada needs skilled immigrants like every other developed country. Made me think, we need, we have to get "skilled" immigrants from third world countries? Does that make sense? Does the third world have enough skilled people to keep our economy running? Does India have a surplus of engineers? I doubt it.

In the pic of the cute Asian girl, I'm guessing she's not superskilled in technocratic knowledge. She may be, but there is no evidence to support this.

Don't kid yourself, immigration is a very political issue in Canada. There are no absolutes. Opposing it may simply mean you can still think a little bit.

http://canada.metropolis.net/index_e.html

 

[Trotz]

Racial immigration into certain industries is not a good thing, as a NDP colleague of mine had pointed out. It turns those skillsets into racial skillsets which in return can devalue the wages in those industries.

I.E., "Fillipinos are naturally good at being nurses. Hence it's not really a skill set and we can pay them less"

Much like Chinese accountants are paid less. Mexican agricultural workers are paid less. Et al.

Does India have a surplus of engineers?

The fact that about half of Indians do not have access to plumbing and flushing toliets, would lead us to indicate no.

The "brain drain" hasn't done any good for the development of third world countries (see perpetual poverty) nor ours (increasing living expenses).
We have to wonder if the Germans and Japanese could have industrialized had all of their engineers and doctors been bought up en masse, by the British, during the late 19th century.


On the contrary, I think it should be US who should be going into the undeveloped world. Let's talk about open immigration borders for ALL Countries, not the one-sided system which allows everyone to come into Canada and Western Europe but not vice versa.

I'm not a rocket scientist but I have enough money to settle in an foreign community and teach valuable skillsets to the "inhabitants". On the other hand, do I really need a Gautemalan from a rural village coming up to Canada to cook me a Big Mac at McDonalds? Want perhaps but the actual job could be done by a Canadian teenager or not done altogether.

Much like the Germans, Russians and Japanese, during their industrialization, were reliant on outsiders coming in and sharing their skillsets.

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

Racial immigration into certain industries is not a good thing, as a NDP colleague of mine had pointed out. It turns those skillsets into racial skillsets which in return can devalue the wages in those industries.

I.E., "Fillipinos are naturally good at being nurses. Hence it's not really a skill set and we can pay them less"

Much like Chinese accountants are paid less. Mexican agricultural workers are paid less. Et al.

And with China developing, why do we want to take so many of their accountants? They need them.

We have about seven levels of EI benefits going, yet we still need to import agricultural workers. Seems funny here.

 

[BaalsTears]

I'm a little confused by your post. What does either of the links you posted have to do with the topic?

BTW the first Canadians appear to have come from Asia. Africa is where they came from before that...

The five American Muslim terrorists were Yankee Doodle Dandies. They were born, raised and educated in America. But they were not "of" America because they were separate from the whole. Multiculturalism produces separation and division. These Muslim Americans went to Pakistan to fight their fellow Americans in Afghanistan. That is multiculturalism in action.

The journey to Canada began in Africa and continued without interruption, except by glaciers and volcanos, until their descendants arrived.

 

[Trotz]

I've made a point in seperate threads that we have hyphenations in Canada and the United States. At the end of the day; since Canada was/is an European melting pot, someone like David Suzuki (even within our politically correct media) is identified as an outsider when he is referred to as a "Japanese Canadian".