YouTube - Wind power and Denise Bode on FOX-TV's Varney & Co., Jan. 26, 2011
Climate deniers in general hate renewable power.
Hmmmm. Wonder why?
Climate deniers in general hate renewable power.
Hmmmm. Wonder why?
AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?
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Even on the quietest of mornings I'll never give up my toaster. No sunshine no toaster either. So screw that. I'm not going to **** in a box to run a genny for 15 seconds and have half toasted toast either.
I'll never give up my breakfast of watts, volts amps and toast.
Seems to work in Iowa with 20% of power form wind with a goal of 50% and 60% of that going out of state costing about 5 cents per kilowatt hour.
Seems those with money and careers tied to dirty energy are afraid of a little competition.
Add in solar, nuclear, hydro electric and efficiencies in dirty fuels we can make the air cleaner.
We can also improve the way we construct buildings, the way we produce food and the way we travel.
It's all possible, but can'tservatives always have a problem with new things.
Will it be done overnight? Nope, but I think it is prudent to move in that direction as fast as possible.
While you keep thinking of ways why it can't be done I'll consider ideas that say it can be done.
I did it with my own home with wind, solar, geo thermal tech and other efficiencies, so much so that their are times when the house is off the grid.
Have a lovely day.
That pie-in-the-sky logic is great, but it still doesn't change the fact that you can't generate power from the wind when there is none nor can you generate solar power when the sun don't shine.
Thanks for the good wishes for my day... It's already been fantastic!
You can store it in nice big superduper ecologically unfriendly in a grouchy way batteries.
Exactly the comment I'd expect from a can'tservative.
Somehow this pie in the sky guy can be off the grid and when I am on the grid rely on Darlington and Pickering for power.
It can be done, it has be done and will be done again.
Andrew Weaber sues Tim Ball for libel
University of Victoria Professor Andrew Weaver, the Canada Research Chair in Climate Modelling and Analysis, has filed suit for libel against freelance climate change denier Tim Ball.
The suit (attached below) arises from an article that Ball penned for the right-wingy Canada Free Press website, which has since apologized to Weaver for its numerous inaccuracies and stripped from its publicly available pages pretty much everything that Ball has ever written.
In the article, Ball, a former geography professor at the University of Winnipeg with an indifferent academic record and a lifetime peer-reviewed literature output of just four articles (none of them in atmospheric physics), assailed Weaver as uninformed about climate, unqualified to teach and compromised by his lavish funding, accusations for which he offered no proof whatever.
Weaver, a member of the Royal Society of Canada who has authored more than 190 papers, was also a lead author on three of the four reports of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climage Change (IPCC), and is lined up as a lead author on the fifth. He's also won pretty much all the academic and teaching awards that are available to a Canadian professor who has not yet had his 50th birthday. Ball, famously slow to notice the obvious, apparently didn't realize that he was overmatched.
Of course, it's not the first time. Ball sued University of Lethbridge Professor Dan Johnson in October 2006 over imagined slights in a letter to the editor that Johnson had written to the Calgary Herald. When both Johnson and the Herald filed a devastating Statements of Defence, Ball turned tail and ran.
But regardless that the suit had exposed the numerous falsehoods that once coloured Balls resume - and regardless that a University of Calgary audit confirmed that Ball had been accepting money that had been sluiced through a university slush fund that had been set up to conceal the money's oil industry origins, Ball has continued to write and speak, claiming some higher knowledge of the workings of climate change - actually, of the lack of climate change.
Suddenly, however, he appears to have gone quiet.
Oh Dear, the hero of deniers is going down, it must be the work of the Jews eh Beave.
University of Victoria Professor Andrew Weaver, the Canada Research Chair in Climate Modelling and Analysis, has filed suit for libel against freelance climate change denier Tim Ball.
The suit (attached below) arises from an article that Ball penned for the right-wingy Canada Free Press website, which has since apologized to Weaver for its numerous inaccuracies and stripped from its publicly available pages pretty much everything that Ball has ever written.
In the article, Ball, a former geography professor at the University of Winnipeg with an indifferent academic record and a lifetime peer-reviewed literature output of just four articles (none of them in atmospheric physics), assailed Weaver as uninformed about climate, unqualified to teach and compromised by his lavish funding, accusations for which he offered no proof whatever.
Weaver, a member of the Royal Society of Canada who has authored more than 190 papers, was also a lead author on three of the four reports of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climage Change (IPCC), and is lined up as a lead author on the fifth. He's also won pretty much all the academic and teaching awards that are available to a Canadian professor who has not yet had his 50th birthday. Ball, famously slow to notice the obvious, apparently didn't realize that he was overmatched.
Of course, it's not the first time. Ball sued University of Lethbridge Professor Dan Johnson in October 2006 over imagined slights in a letter to the editor that Johnson had written to the Calgary Herald. When both Johnson and the Herald filed a devastating Statements of Defence, Ball turned tail and ran.
But regardless that the suit had exposed the numerous falsehoods that once coloured Balls resume - and regardless that a University of Calgary audit confirmed that Ball had been accepting money that had been sluiced through a university slush fund that had been set up to conceal the money's oil industry origins, Ball has continued to write and speak, claiming some higher knowledge of the workings of climate change - actually, of the lack of climate change.
Suddenly, however, he appears to have gone quiet.
Oh Dear, the hero of deniers is going down, it must be the work of the Jews eh Beave.
... And, that still does not change the fact that your wind power doesn't exist when there ain't no wind.
Why is that so hard for you to actually recognize as fact?
Why is that so hard for you to actually recognize as fact?
Off the grid eh? Really? How many panels do you have producing how many Kw/h? What was the cost? Were any of the minerals involved in contruction of the panels blood minerals? Were they produced in a country with first class human rights in an eco-friendly and human friendly factory and shipped to Canada on sailboats?
Avro believes the green commercials. Spray paint anything green and he'll buy into it.
I have built a couple of small wind turbines and I can verify what CaptMorgan said that they produce nothing without wind They are expensive and the magnets and copper are all covered in blood and pollution.
I have built a couple of small wind turbines and I can verify what CaptMorgan said that they produce nothing without wind They are expensive and the magnets and copper are all covered in blood and pollution.
This entire 'project' would make more sense if it was easier to sell into the grid (over supply from a home solar/wind unit). There are a variety of obstacles and restrictions that limit the ability for an individual to sell power into the grid which would mitigate the capital cost of installing the tech.
Regardless, the bottom line to any society is there is an absolute need for stable, consistent power 'on demand'... This is an element that Avro and the green brigade feverishly ignore in the diatribes. Healthcare, infrastructure works, emergency response, etc. cannot rely on the prevailing winds or cloudless days... There will always be a need for those techs that offer power-on-demand
Regardless, the bottom line to any society is there is an absolute need for stable, consistent power 'on demand'... This is an element that Avro and the green brigade feverishly ignore in the diatribes. Healthcare, infrastructure works, emergency response, etc. cannot rely on the prevailing winds or cloudless days... There will always be a need for those techs that offer power-on-demand
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We don't have to stop using renewable oil, we have to refine the crap out of it. And to do that we have to regulate the industries that have worked ceaselessly to continue to produce and market dirty oil products. The most damaging part of the whole green painting public relations spin has been the myth of biotic non renewable hydro carbons when in fact it's a process that never stops on earth.
I'll agree with you there on the 'renewable' concept especially based on the notion that there are theories relative to non-biotic oil originating from the deeps (I think that you might have posted a link in the past). In my opinion, the biggest danger from the green brigade is based on the fallacies and fabrications upon which their argument must rely.
Too bad really.... Had these folks actually put a fraction of the money that tehy've spent on marketing and all of the feel-good concerts/protests, into R&D and creative solutions, I'd wager that the cost of implementing their agenda would drop dramatically.
Instead, all I hear is what "we" ought to do and NEVER hear about what "I" (I being the green lobby) have personally done. It all goes to show that money talks and bullsh*t walks.
Too bad really.... Had these folks actually put a fraction of the money that tehy've spent on marketing and all of the feel-good concerts/protests, into R&D and creative solutions, I'd wager that the cost of implementing their agenda would drop dramatically.
Instead, all I hear is what "we" ought to do and NEVER hear about what "I" (I being the green lobby) have personally done. It all goes to show that money talks and bullsh*t walks.
Money talks and reality gets painted out of the experience. Reality itself has been sprayed green. Marketing has been the economic throttle instead of utility and necessity, we have been entertained to death, literally. All those billions gone to green initiatives, how much of that found its way into gold bars and the hoards of the elite. Their efficiency is not our efficiency nor is it in any way sustainable untill you add war to the mix, now you got a renewable crisis that floats between generations vacuming up the greater part of the sum of human labour, and that's what cripples true human progress. We can't have progress because the expense to the elite would eliminate them. Hey, Green Fascism is the fashion of the day. The greatest scam in history. blah blah blah, it's my day off
Not Exactly Bonaroo but the super bowl is going green.
Press release from Just Energy:
The fact is, despite what Fox News, and other oil soaked climate deniers will tell you:
The vast majority of mainstream Americans know climate change is real.
Polling data shows Americans know something is wrong, and want something done about it.
The vast majority of mainstream Americans want renewable energy, they want the government to spearhead a transformation to sustainable power, and they want it to happen this year.
Press release from Just Energy:
Dallas, Texas, January 27, 2011 – A Green Energy program created by Just Energy, the largest competitive green energy retailer in North America, the National Football League and the North Texas Super Bowl XLV Host Committee will ensure the 2011 Super Bowl will be the greenest NFL championship on record.
Just Energy has committed to offset all direct and indirect carbon emissions associated with power generation at major Super Bowl XLV venues. This includes energy consumed at Cowboys Stadium for the entire month leading up to Super Bowl XLV, electricity used at NFL Super Bowl headquarters, the Super Bowl Media Center, the AFC and NFC team hotels, and the electricity used at the NFL Experience Football Theme Park – the largest public event at Super Bowl.
“We’re thrilled to be chosen by the NFL to play a key role in the ‘greening’ of the world’s most significant annual sports championship,” said Ken Hartwick, Chief Executive Officer of Just Energy. “Every day we see more organizations and more people becoming greener in their habits. We see this as a powerful opportunity to join the NFL and lead by example before a global audience.”
Under an agreement between the National Football League and Just Energy, Just Energy will purchase renewable energy certificates (REC) on behalf of Super Bowl XLV, ensuring that for every megawatt of electricity used to power the event facilities, both directly and indirectly, one megawatt of renewable energy will be generated.
The electricity purchased in connection with Super Bowl XLV will be generated by the Sweetwater Wind Farm located in Sweetwater, Texas, 228 miles west of Dallas. Just Energy ensures that the green energy products purchased and sold meet the highest standards of quality, are local and are certified.
It’s no fluke that this is happening. The Super Bowl is the most American of American holy days, and it gives us a window into what the society is thinking, what it is dreaming, and what it aspires to.Just Energy has committed to offset all direct and indirect carbon emissions associated with power generation at major Super Bowl XLV venues. This includes energy consumed at Cowboys Stadium for the entire month leading up to Super Bowl XLV, electricity used at NFL Super Bowl headquarters, the Super Bowl Media Center, the AFC and NFC team hotels, and the electricity used at the NFL Experience Football Theme Park – the largest public event at Super Bowl.
“We’re thrilled to be chosen by the NFL to play a key role in the ‘greening’ of the world’s most significant annual sports championship,” said Ken Hartwick, Chief Executive Officer of Just Energy. “Every day we see more organizations and more people becoming greener in their habits. We see this as a powerful opportunity to join the NFL and lead by example before a global audience.”Under an agreement between the National Football League and Just Energy, Just Energy will purchase renewable energy certificates (REC) on behalf of Super Bowl XLV, ensuring that for every megawatt of electricity used to power the event facilities, both directly and indirectly, one megawatt of renewable energy will be generated.
The electricity purchased in connection with Super Bowl XLV will be generated by the Sweetwater Wind Farm located in Sweetwater, Texas, 228 miles west of Dallas. Just Energy ensures that the green energy products purchased and sold meet the highest standards of quality, are local and are certified.
The fact is, despite what Fox News, and other oil soaked climate deniers will tell you:
The vast majority of mainstream Americans know climate change is real.
Polling data shows Americans know something is wrong, and want something done about it.
The vast majority of mainstream Americans want renewable energy, they want the government to spearhead a transformation to sustainable power, and they want it to happen this year.
When asked which energy source they would support if they were president, 41 percent picked solar. Three percent chose coal. Together, solar and wind together were favored nearly 20 times more than America’s dirtiest fuel.
Not sure if it's the Jews or bankers behind this but I'm sure the beave will let us know.
Not sure if it's the Jews or bankers behind this but I'm sure the beave will let us know.