Multiple Schlerosis, skim-milk surplusses, and Quebec cheese makers...

[Omicron]

Milk is for animals that grow 500kg in a year. No wonder people are fat.

Skim milk is one of the least fattening and dietarily most efficient foods you can consume. It has an essential amino acid ratio around 75%, whereas meat is around 30%.

It's one of the *best* things to include in a diet if you want to control calories while keeping properly nourished.

Are you one of those people who can't digest lactose past the age of twelve and has to look for rationalizations to justify the fact that he lacks the double recessive gene that most northwest Europeans have enabling them to keep digesting lactose past the age of twelve?

Normally people who are lactose intolerant simply eat their milk as yogurt or as some cheese made with a yeast that consumes the lactose in the fermentation process.

quebec cheese makers

Ahh... thanks!

 

[TenPenny]

So there is some link between 'bovine fat' and MS?

 

[Omicron]

So there is some link between 'bovine fat' and MS?

Yup. Not in terms of catching it, but in terms of triggering the disease to express itself and do damage, and actually it's not exactly just beef fat, because any heavily saturated fat can trigger an attack (which means the idea of making an MS-safe cheese from skim-milk and bacon fat was *not* a good idea, although I still think it's an interesting idea just for the sake of inventing a new kind of cheese... and by the way, before the cattleman's associations get in a fit, "bovine" includes things like buffalo)...

... It's just that there's something especially obnoxious to the physiology of people with MS about bovine fats, and I think I sort of know why.

When I was in high school I had to do a science report on the fatty-acid constituents of various common types of fat in the human diet, and compare that to the fatty-acid constituents of human fat, and I was stunned by how bovine fat is the *least* similar to human fat of any we eat.

Weirdly enough, the fat most similar to human fat was *corn oil* (go figure), which means, if you rendered down human fat until it was pure, a chemist would have a hard time telling it apart from corn oil.

Which mean... someone needs to invent a soft cheese based upon skim-milk and corn-oil.

The trick will be to find the right species of mold, and what the right incubation conditions and preparation process needs to be, which means some basic kitchen-lab R&D.

 

[Cannuck]

YouTube - Life of Brian - Blessed are the cheesemakers

 

[TenPenny]

Yup. Not in terms of catching it, but in terms of triggering the disease to express itself and do damage, and actually it's not exactly just beef fat, because any heavily saturated fat can trigger an attack (which means the idea of making an MS-safe cheese from skim-milk and bacon fat was *not* a good idea, although I still think it's an interesting idea just for the sake of inventing a new kind of cheese... and by the way, before the cattleman's associations get in a fit, "bovine" includes things like buffalo)...

... It's just that there's something especially obnoxious to the physiology of people with MS about bovine fats, and I think I sort of know why.

Anybody have any decent evidence for any of that?

 

[Omicron]

Anybody have any decent evidence for any of that?

Yeah...start by talking to someone with MS and ask them how they feel the next few days after chowing down on big meals heavy on the saturated fats... especially of the bovine kind.

Then ask them how often those states of discomfort lead to painful attacks, and then ask them how often those attacks lead to paralysis which they may or may not recover from with the same likelihood as recovering from an attack of polio.

It's more immediate and direct a correlation than is had for correlating smoking to cancer...

 

[TenPenny]

Yeah...start by talking to someone with MS and ask them how they feel the next few days after chowing down on big meals heavy on the saturated fats... especially of the bovine kind.

Then ask them how often those states of discomfort lead to painful attacks, and then ask them how often those attacks lead to paralysis which they may or may not recover from with the same likelihood as recovering from an attack of polio.

It's more immediate and direct a correlation than is had for correlating smoking to cancer...

If you say so.

 

[Omicron]

If you say so.

Evidently you don't know anyone with MS. I know two, and trust me pal, I'm not making this up.

They have their doctor's dietary regime well in hand, but sure enough, they've been feeling okay for awhile so they'll jump off the wagon and chow down on a double-burger or a big slice of double-cheese pizza, and then for the next three days they're tired and in pain, with everyone worried that it might go into a full-blown attack leaving paralysis. They're still level one, but too many attacks and it will proceed to level two where they're drooling in a wheelchair.

So why do they do it knowing full well what the consequences could be?

I don't know. Why do schizophrenics stop taking their medication as soon as it's finally had the effect of making them normal? Why would smokers keep smoking even if the government changed the packaging regulations to say that every pack had to be solid black printed with a white skull and cross-bone and plain text saying "This will kill you"?

To give humans a list of foods they should not eat with a threat that if they don't stick to it they'll die, and that they must eat for the rest of their lives a bland diet with no tasty alternatives, is as pointless as a toady PM telling his constituents that he's going to spend their tax dollars building gulags of new prisons into which he's going to shove them all if they don't sit down and shut up and deal with living at a ground-down standard of living from unregulated globalization.

The solution is to present an alternative, and so if it is within the grasp of human science to make a tasty and nutritious alternative that's palatable to people with MS and will not trigger attacks, why not... especially if it's creating jobs (at least until the gray-scaled gargoyles and their gel-haired Armani-suited MBA minions of Wall Street pull one of their Goldman's Suck kind'a cons to do a takeover and gut management with decision-probability software and downsize labor with robotic automation and debase the product to the lowest possible true value with the poorest and cheapest ingredients, all in order to maximize shareholder value for their masters golfing at the triple-six club every day while all others do everything menial for the lowest possible working-poor wage... but that's another story...)