Here is an example of what a 'real welder' would do to come to the truth about what thermite can and cannot do.
http://video.godlikeproductions.com..._cut_a_vertical_column?id=28fd98e0f9ff45f0121[/glpvideo
Enough farting around on Iran & Nukes
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http://video.godlikeproductions.com..._cut_a_vertical_column?id=28fd98e0f9ff45f0121[/glpvideo
Do you know the largest consumer of thermite in North America, outside the Defense industry?
Here's a hint, they use it vertically, because that is the only way to direct its heat efficiently. Even your video shows how it fails to cut the columns with any great effectiveness. But hey, maybe it was because he couldn't get nano thermite, which is used for micro welding surgical instruments and was still well inside the development stages during 9/11.
Fabricated evidence, is silly. Filling posts with it, just makes your posts stupid.
Not that I have any experience with thermite. Only that I know several people who do, in the industry that uses it. Not to mention, your video makes the claim it's illegal to possess. Feel free to call Trillium Propane and welding supply, and order some if you want to try some of your own experiments.
And if one was so inclined to have more then a single brain cell, they would know that the average welder, even one with 12 licenses, in three metals, has limited to no experience with thermite.
But hey, don't let that stop you from making up a fictitious version of what a "real" welder is, you got a video full of BS to back up the stupidity that fills your posts.
Besides that, I've entertained your moronic course of conversation long enough, out of shear boredom, if you wish to continue it. I'll school you in welding and steel make up, in any thread on that topic.
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Here is an example of what a 'real welder' would do to come to the truth about what thermite can and cannot do.
http://video.godlikeproductions.com..._cut_a_vertical_column?id=28fd98e0f9ff45f0121[/glpvideo
Check out the red hot columns at the 13:30 mark.
Israel has/had no obligation to divulge anything about their nuclear program. The program has been ongoing since the mid 50's anyway. You want to know what there doing, ask the French.
" Israel has never officially admitted to having nuclear weapons, instead repeating over the years that it would not be the first country to "introduce" nuclear weapons to the Middle East, leaving ambiguous whether it means it will not create, will not disclose, or will not make first use of the weapons. Israel has refused to sign the NPT despite international pressure to do so, and has stated that signing the NPT would be contrary to its national security interests."
By the way, Canada is not so innocent, they helped India develop and build a heavy-water research reactor for "peaceful purposes" back in Sept. 1955. Look where that peaceful program is today.
" Israel has never officially admitted to having nuclear weapons, instead repeating over the years that it would not be the first country to "introduce" nuclear weapons to the Middle East, leaving ambiguous whether it means it will not create, will not disclose, or will not make first use of the weapons. Israel has refused to sign the NPT despite international pressure to do so, and has stated that signing the NPT would be contrary to its national security interests."
By the way, Canada is not so innocent, they helped India develop and build a heavy-water research reactor for "peaceful purposes" back in Sept. 1955. Look where that peaceful program is today.
Start with sagging floor joists (caused by heat) that are held to the inner and outer columns but two 1" bolts can pull those columns (both at the very same time even though they have much different strengths) in to the point that they break.
Seeing as you seem unable to comprehend simple English...
This is the thread you should be placing posts containing the level of stupidity expressed in your posts in this thread....
http://forums.canadiancontent.net/steel-cage/75456-why-towers-fell-2-a-4.html
Does the US have a law that prohibits it from supplying arms to any Nation that does not join the same group that Iran belongs to or not. That doesn't mean they pay attention to their own laws though. India just got the 'green light' to not have ant more inspections, pushed by the US for their compliance in voting with the US and Israel against Iran's right to have nuclear power plants. With Russia as a defense partner they don't need their own weapons.
Well I guess we better go get those thing then eh.
I take that to mean you decline to start the thread with that specific topic. How typically fuktardish of you, lol
Thank you once again for highlighting the limited cognitive skills you possess.
Again, I provided a link, to a thread more appropriate for you to place your posts regarding the WTC.
If you would like to take that as some form of victory for your idiocy, please by all means, have at it. I'm big enough and mature enough to know when I'm dealing with a child that needs to feel like it's won something once in a while to feel good about itself.
You made the offer, now produce on any thread you would like.
You introduced your opinion why you mall lost some of it's walls and it has flaws when you compare it to the WTC structures.
I'll simply quote the previously posted link, so that you might actually get it this time. Although I doubt it.
No you brought my credentials and experience into the argument as if it would bear any weight on the topic at hand.
Would you like me to cite the post in which you performed said stupidity?
As if that would somehow get you to post something that contained anything remotely close to appearing as an intelligent thought.
Now, if you wouldn't mind placing your posts pertaining to the WTC in the appropriate thread, the topic here is Iran.
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The reference was to show that you are a liar, that means what you say on any subject can be rejected without you supplying proof. In this case the 'wipe Israel off the map' is the comment that is the lie, unless you would like to supply a link that show it was translated from somebody other than 'friends' of Israel and the US, both of which have a war-mongering agenda. If you want to get back on track start there.
Well since you brought the personalization into the discussion well prior to that post, I'll have to say you're the liar.
But hey, why would you be right this time? If there's one thing you do consistently, is posts errors.
It was translated by Sohrab Mahdavi, one of Iran’s most prominent translators, and Siamak Namazi. Feel free to look them up. It was even posted on Ahmadinejad's own webpage.
But hey, even if I had Ahmadinejad come on CC and tell you himself, you'd say he was a US impostor. When dealing with your level of insanity, there is no need to waste time providing evidence.
Juan Cole, a University of Michigan Professor of Modern Middle East and South Asian History, agrees that Ahmadinejad's statement should be translated as, "the Imam said that this regime occupying Jerusalem (een rezhim-e eshghalgar-e qods) must [vanish from] the page of time (bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad).[12] According to Cole, "Ahmadinejad did not say he was going to 'wipe Israel off the map' because no such idiom exists in Persian." Instead, "he did say he hoped its regime, i.e., a Jewish-Zionist state occupying Jerusalem, would collapse."
Iranian government sources denied that Ahmadinejad issued any sort of threat. On 20 February 2006, Iran's foreign minister Manouchehr Mottaki told a news conference: "How is it possible to remove a country from the map? He is talking about the regime. We do not recognize legally this regime." [15][16][17]
Iranian government sources denied that Ahmadinejad issued any sort of threat. On 20 February 2006, Iran's foreign minister Manouchehr Mottaki told a news conference: "How is it possible to remove a country from the map? He is talking about the regime. We do not recognize legally this regime." [15][16][17]
Not that I'm surprised you cherry pick, but to be so blatant and so sadly misleading. You and wikiality are made for each other.
I'm sure Juan Cole, is far better versed in Persian, then Persians...
But when the US makes such statements, it's lying and back peddling...
Keep typing cubby, your hand is visible.
Shiraz Dossa, a professor of Political Science at St. Francis Xavier University in Nova Scotia, Canada, also believes the text is a mistranslation.[18]
In a June 11, 2006 analysis of the translation controversy, New York Times editor Ethan Bronner stated:
Ahmadinejad was quoting the Ayatollah Khomeini in the specific speech under discussion: what he said was that "the occupation regime over Jerusalem should vanish from the page of time." No state action is envisaged in this lament; it denotes a spiritual wish, whereas the erroneous translation—"wipe Israel off the map"—suggests a military threat. There is a huge chasm between the correct and the incorrect translations. The notion that Iran can "wipe out" U.S.-backed, nuclear-armed Israel is ludicrous.[19][20][21]
In a June 11, 2006 analysis of the translation controversy, New York Times editor Ethan Bronner stated:
[T]ranslators in Tehran who work for the president's office and the foreign ministry disagree with them. All official translations of Mr. Ahmadinejad's statement, including a description of it on his website, refer to wiping Israel away. Sohrab Mahdavi, one of Iran’s most prominent translators, and Siamak Namazi, managing director of a Tehran consulting firm, who is bilingual, both say “wipe off” or “wipe away” is more accurate than "vanish" because the Persian verb is active and transitive.
Bronner continued: "..it is hard to argue that, from Israel's point of view, Mr. Ahmadinejad poses no threat. Still, it is true that he has never specifically threatened war against Israel. So did Iran's president call for Israel to be 'wiped off the map'? It certainly seems so. Did that amount to a call for war? That remains an open question."[13] This elicited a further response from Jonathan Steele, who noted that Bronner agreed that "map" or any other place noun had not been used and criticized this Wikipedia entry (as it was on June 14, 2006) for "claiming falsely" that Ethan Bronner had "concluded that Ahmadinejad had in fact said that Israel was to be wiped off the map".[23]
Again, cheery picking your beloved wikiality?
How sad you would pick Shariz Dossa in your attempt to try and find a Persian voice...fail.
You may want to vet the people you try and use to support the stupidity contained in your posts.
Terry Glavin: Shiraz Dossa Is A Loser, A Scumbag and A Bore
Again exposing your failure to perform the most minor or cursory research.
Your simple minded edit only proves my point. Thank you.
I suppose that makes sense; the two nations would be nuclear powers and therefore we could wipe them both off the map. Maybe all at once.
'Wiped off the Map' – The Rumor of the Century - by Arash Norouzi
Across the world, a dangerous rumor has spread that could have catastrophic implications. According to legend, Iran's president has threatened to destroy Israel, or, to quote the misquote, "Israel must be wiped off the map." Contrary to popular belief, this statement was never made.
Before we get to the infamous remark, it's important to note that the "quote" in question was itself a quote – they are the words of the late Ayatollah Khomenei, the father of the Islamic Revolution. Although he quoted Khomeini to affirm his own position on Zionism, the actual words belong to Khomeini and not Ahmadinejad. Thus, Ahmadinejad has essentially been credited (or blamed) for a quote that is not only unoriginal, but represents a viewpoint already in place well before he ever took office.
The Actual Quote:
So what did Ahmadinejad actually say? To quote his exact words in Farsi:
"Imam ghoft een rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad."
That passage will mean nothing to most people, but one word might ring a bell: rezhim-e. It is the word "regime." pronounced just like the English word with an extra "eh" sound at the end. Ahmadinejad did not refer to Israel the country or Israel the land mass, but the Israeli regime. This is a vastly significant distinction, as one cannot wipe a regime off the map.
Across the world, a dangerous rumor has spread that could have catastrophic implications. According to legend, Iran's president has threatened to destroy Israel, or, to quote the misquote, "Israel must be wiped off the map." Contrary to popular belief, this statement was never made.
Before we get to the infamous remark, it's important to note that the "quote" in question was itself a quote – they are the words of the late Ayatollah Khomenei, the father of the Islamic Revolution. Although he quoted Khomeini to affirm his own position on Zionism, the actual words belong to Khomeini and not Ahmadinejad. Thus, Ahmadinejad has essentially been credited (or blamed) for a quote that is not only unoriginal, but represents a viewpoint already in place well before he ever took office.
The Actual Quote:
So what did Ahmadinejad actually say? To quote his exact words in Farsi:
"Imam ghoft een rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad."
That passage will mean nothing to most people, but one word might ring a bell: rezhim-e. It is the word "regime." pronounced just like the English word with an extra "eh" sound at the end. Ahmadinejad did not refer to Israel the country or Israel the land mass, but the Israeli regime. This is a vastly significant distinction, as one cannot wipe a regime off the map.
Seems there are a couple of nations that want Israel destroyed, wiped off the map gone.
Iran's new president created a sense of outrage in the west yesterday by describing Israel as a "disgraceful blot" that should be "wiped off the face of the earth". Mahmoud Ahmadinejad who is more hardline than his predecessor, told students in Tehran that a new wave of Palestinian attacks would be enough to finish off Israel.
Israel should be wiped off map, says Iran's president | World news | The Guardian
"Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah probably refrained from expressing at least half this sentiment in his meeting today with President Obama (Jun 30, 2010) : On June 5, he reportedly told French Defense Minister Hervé Morin that "There are two countries in the world that do not deserve to exist: Iran and Israel."
YouTube - Ahmadinejad wants to wipe Israel off the map
Iran's new president created a sense of outrage in the west yesterday by describing Israel as a "disgraceful blot" that should be "wiped off the face of the earth". Mahmoud Ahmadinejad who is more hardline than his predecessor, told students in Tehran that a new wave of Palestinian attacks would be enough to finish off Israel.
Israel should be wiped off map, says Iran's president | World news | The Guardian
"Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah probably refrained from expressing at least half this sentiment in his meeting today with President Obama (Jun 30, 2010) : On June 5, he reportedly told French Defense Minister Hervé Morin that "There are two countries in the world that do not deserve to exist: Iran and Israel."
YouTube - Ahmadinejad wants to wipe Israel off the map
Ahmadinejad does not even refer to Israel by name, he instead uses the specific phrase "rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods" (regime occupying Jerusalem).
So this raises the question.. what exactly did he want "wiped from the map"? The answer is: nothing. That's because the word "map" was never used. The Persian word for map, "nagsheh" is not contained anywhere in his original Farsi quote, or, for that matter, anywhere in his entire speech. Nor was the western phrase "wipe out" ever said. Yet we are led to believe that Iran's president threatened to "wipe Israel off the map." despite never having uttered the words "map." "wipe out" or even "Israel."
So this raises the question.. what exactly did he want "wiped from the map"? The answer is: nothing. That's because the word "map" was never used. The Persian word for map, "nagsheh" is not contained anywhere in his original Farsi quote, or, for that matter, anywhere in his entire speech. Nor was the western phrase "wipe out" ever said. Yet we are led to believe that Iran's president threatened to "wipe Israel off the map." despite never having uttered the words "map." "wipe out" or even "Israel."